Blade & Sorcery

Blade & Sorcery

MylesHimself May 22, 2021 @ 2:02pm
Quest 2 Using Virtual Desktop pointer clicker not clicking or registering
I Play on my Quest 2 and Recently since the last update it has been having trouble registering my pointer clicker on startup (as in my right controller that is used to pick character and maps and weapons will just not be registered and it doesn't allow me to click) and if I actually click through and get the game started, the problem still persist.

I removed all my mods and it still occurred.

Both controllers are full battery.

edit: it seems that It works well once. then when i restart the game it messes up.
Last edited by MylesHimself; May 22, 2021 @ 2:39pm
Originally posted by The Baron:
This is unfortunately not the answer to this issue, but I am pinning it so that new people can see it as I merge duplicate threads, and they can try out all my suggestions. If anyone has success with any of these, please let us know and it can help us try isolate this bug.


Originally posted by MrHamWallet:
Forgot to mention but I am not a Quest user, I'm using Valve Index

MrHamWallet, I just realized I should not have merged your thread with this Quest thread as the two may or may not be the same thing, since Quest/Virtual Desktop can introduce issues on their own, nothing to do with the game, and there have been times when using a Link cable fixes things for example, but that won't be relevant to you.

And then also realized I misread everyone's entire issue of the disappearing pointer in the first place, and was thinking of the issue of looping calibration on character screen. I had been answering that question a bunch and was on autopilot, so sorry about that guys, I was leading you in a circle there.

Disappearing pointer

So, the disappearing pointer: There are some easy things it could be right away that hopefully it will be this - Make sure the game window is focused (ie you are not tabbed out or clicked into a windows explorer window), and that no console menu is open (eg, the dev cheat menu, F5, F3 freecam, etc). The reason is there can't be two UI pointers at the same time, so it's either mouse or VR controller. So that's the first thing, and hopefully it is as simple as one of those.

The second easy thing to try is what I did already mention above which is deleting the entire folder Documents\My Games\BladeAndSorcery (not to be confused with your game installation directory or Documents\My Games\Blade&Sorcery, which is a steam junk folder and will do nothing. https://steamcommunity.com/app/629730/discussions/2/2450469119947281759 The reason this can work is because for a start mods can mess up your game, so you gotta remove those first, and then even with the mods gone they can still impact your save/config files so you gotta flush out the entire thing. So if you havent done this, try this,

But if it is not any of the above, then it is likely the unfortunate bug which is logged but we are still working on, where the pointer will randomly disappear. However what is a bit weird is that the bug as we have it logged happens randomly, so simply restarting the game can fix it. This randomness is what is making it hard to reproduce and fix. If it is persistently happening however, then perhaps it is something else, but that would be a bit strange that it would be persistently happening because it is not a universal bug (ie not everyone has it). And if it is happening in a reproducable way (ie it happens ten out of ten times you launch) then it will also be very difficult to figure out exactly what is going on because can't reproduce it here, and if it is some 3rd party thing causing mischief we'd have no way of knowing since things like that don't register in the player.log.

For Quest users, perhaps it is something in the Quest/VD category. If you have a Link cable, try that. You might also check out the VD forums and see if VD could be the cause as this software is unsupported, so if they did something on their end it might break compatibility for example.

But if it is persistently happening and you are not a Quest user like HamWallet, then I'm not sure what else it could be. :KScared: The only thing I can think of is scour through your PC applications and see if there could be any program that is stealing focus from the game app. People have had weird issues happen in the past that were specific to their setup, with applications like spotify, torrents, adobe, antivirus, etc. It gets messy at this point. :wftogrumpy:

One last thing; if you think this is something caused by the most recent 9.3 update, you could test this theory by rolling back to U9.0 (in steam > betas) and lmk if it persists. This could help is try narrow down on what it could be.


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AxolotlBaiken May 22, 2021 @ 11:42pm 
i got the same thing the other day dont know if theres a fix for it right now but mine randomly started working
shien30 May 23, 2021 @ 9:40am 
Any luck fixing this? I’m having the same exact problem on Quest 1 thru Virtual Desktop
MrHamWallet May 24, 2021 @ 6:14am 
Can't select anything at Character Creation/Selection Sceen
I've recently had this issue (for no apparent reason) where I boot the game up, but I don't have the proper selection tool, can't select anything. I've tried all the supposed fixes, nothing works, uninstalled all mods, fresh reinstall of game. Nothing works, anyone else had this issue recently? Love this game and appreciate its early access, but if it doesn't work I want a refund
shien30 May 24, 2021 @ 6:40am 
Ive been having the same issue, I’m using Virtual desktop and Steam VR thru my Quest headset and I did a fresh install of the game and restarted my computer and headset and it seemed to get it to work. Altho the pointer for me still goes in and out sometimes when I did all that, the pointer was working like 95% of the time vs not working at all. Hopefully that works for you I still wanna do some testing to see what it is that’s causing it.
The Baron  [developer] May 25, 2021 @ 6:58am 
Hey guys, so it seems like you are all on Quest and all using Virtual Desktop? Perhaps Virtual Desktop got updated and caused some issue, as both Quest and VD are not officially supported for this reason.

One thought occurred to me though; I'm not sure if it will fix your problem but maybe it will --

Take a look in your save file in the location Documents\My Games\BladeAndSorcery\Saves\Default. There will be the .chr with lots of letters. Open it with notepad, have a look near the top and make sure "calibrated = true", and if not, set it to true.

https://i.imgur.com/ZbYBD4Y.png

This is the calibration for the controllers that you usually do before making your character. Perhaps wither Quest controllers or something with VD is screwing up and this is not registering.

The other thing to try is deleting the entire saves folder as described here. Documents\My Games\BladeAndSorcery (not to be confused with your game installation directory or Documents\My Games\Blade&Sorcery, which is a steam junk folder and will do nothing. https://steamcommunity.com/app/629730/discussions/2/2450469119947281759/

Some of you said you did reinstalls, etc, but reinstalling is not the same as above and has to be done manually. So first try the calibration thing, and if that doesn't work try the delete folder and then the calibration thing after. And if it works lmk so it can help others.
MrHamWallet May 27, 2021 @ 6:09am 
Forgot to mention but I am not a Quest user, I'm using Valve Index and have no issues apart from the latest release seemingly making it unplayable. Mods no longer load at all, even playing without mods isn't possible. The pointer lasts just about enough time for me to select my character and make it to the home, but forget being able to use the book to get to an arena or anything once I'm there, the pointer vanishes. Tried the calibration suggestion, its already set to "true".

I've tried deleting the referenced folder (BladeAndSorcery) in my documents before, it has deleted my character etc and I've had to start again but hasn't helped me being able to play the game.
A developer of this app has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
The Baron  [developer] May 27, 2021 @ 7:25am 
This is unfortunately not the answer to this issue, but I am pinning it so that new people can see it as I merge duplicate threads, and they can try out all my suggestions. If anyone has success with any of these, please let us know and it can help us try isolate this bug.


Originally posted by MrHamWallet:
Forgot to mention but I am not a Quest user, I'm using Valve Index

MrHamWallet, I just realized I should not have merged your thread with this Quest thread as the two may or may not be the same thing, since Quest/Virtual Desktop can introduce issues on their own, nothing to do with the game, and there have been times when using a Link cable fixes things for example, but that won't be relevant to you.

And then also realized I misread everyone's entire issue of the disappearing pointer in the first place, and was thinking of the issue of looping calibration on character screen. I had been answering that question a bunch and was on autopilot, so sorry about that guys, I was leading you in a circle there.

Disappearing pointer

So, the disappearing pointer: There are some easy things it could be right away that hopefully it will be this - Make sure the game window is focused (ie you are not tabbed out or clicked into a windows explorer window), and that no console menu is open (eg, the dev cheat menu, F5, F3 freecam, etc). The reason is there can't be two UI pointers at the same time, so it's either mouse or VR controller. So that's the first thing, and hopefully it is as simple as one of those.

The second easy thing to try is what I did already mention above which is deleting the entire folder Documents\My Games\BladeAndSorcery (not to be confused with your game installation directory or Documents\My Games\Blade&Sorcery, which is a steam junk folder and will do nothing. https://steamcommunity.com/app/629730/discussions/2/2450469119947281759 The reason this can work is because for a start mods can mess up your game, so you gotta remove those first, and then even with the mods gone they can still impact your save/config files so you gotta flush out the entire thing. So if you havent done this, try this,

But if it is not any of the above, then it is likely the unfortunate bug which is logged but we are still working on, where the pointer will randomly disappear. However what is a bit weird is that the bug as we have it logged happens randomly, so simply restarting the game can fix it. This randomness is what is making it hard to reproduce and fix. If it is persistently happening however, then perhaps it is something else, but that would be a bit strange that it would be persistently happening because it is not a universal bug (ie not everyone has it). And if it is happening in a reproducable way (ie it happens ten out of ten times you launch) then it will also be very difficult to figure out exactly what is going on because can't reproduce it here, and if it is some 3rd party thing causing mischief we'd have no way of knowing since things like that don't register in the player.log.

For Quest users, perhaps it is something in the Quest/VD category. If you have a Link cable, try that. You might also check out the VD forums and see if VD could be the cause as this software is unsupported, so if they did something on their end it might break compatibility for example.

But if it is persistently happening and you are not a Quest user like HamWallet, then I'm not sure what else it could be. :KScared: The only thing I can think of is scour through your PC applications and see if there could be any program that is stealing focus from the game app. People have had weird issues happen in the past that were specific to their setup, with applications like spotify, torrents, adobe, antivirus, etc. It gets messy at this point. :wftogrumpy:

One last thing; if you think this is something caused by the most recent 9.3 update, you could test this theory by rolling back to U9.0 (in steam > betas) and lmk if it persists. This could help is try narrow down on what it could be.


Last edited by The Baron; May 31, 2021 @ 9:13am
Raiden May 29, 2021 @ 8:32pm 
try using air link
Weng Fei May 30, 2021 @ 11:58am 
No Cursor/Pointer
Since the last update i just can't use the ingame cursor/pointer for the menus. Sometimes when i start the game i can join into the main hub world but after that i can't choose any map or do anything in the menu. I have no mods installed, reinstalled SteamVR and OculusVR and i also completely reinstalled Blade and Sorcery. Does anyone have other ideas than changing the update version?
Kalithar Jun 6, 2021 @ 2:55pm 
Can't Interact With Main Menu
When I first load into the game, I have about a second to interact with the main menu before my cursor disappears entirely. The cursor will, every few seconds, come back for a very brief moment, but that isn't enough time for me to push any buttons, even mashing the trigger as fast as I can.

When this first started happening, I was still able to get into the game, and the game worked normally beyond the main menu. In attempting to fix this, however, I deleted the folder in My Games, which deleted my character, and I cannot create a character in that one second, so I can no longer get into the game.

I don't have many other games to test with, but I have no issues with similar menus in the VR home or my only other VR game, Hotdogs Horseshoes and Hand Grenades.

I've tried all of the general tips for fixing issues, removing mods, fresh install, deleting the folder in My Games, have Steam validate my files, and I've even followed the 100% clean install instructions, and nothing has worked. Has anyone had this issue, or know how to fix it? I'm using a Vive on Windows 10.
Last edited by Kalithar; Jun 6, 2021 @ 8:49pm
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Date Posted: May 22, 2021 @ 2:02pm
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