Blade & Sorcery

Blade & Sorcery

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BluWater Dec 17, 2018 @ 1:19am
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Hello,

In the time I played this game, I really enjoyed it. My only reservation is the pentagram in the menu for an unimplemented feature I imagine would relate to attunement. Does this theme of realism+magic have any wiggle room? I understand some people find this type of thing cool and ominous; I think it's unbecoming and personally find it discomforting. To be clear, I do not judge people who are more comfortable with hints to real world wiccan type stuff, I just don't personally like associating with it. I can dig melee combat, even magic, but not satanic stuff. I really enjoyed playing and would like to play again sometime.

I'm not trying to catch flak. I wanted to bring awareness to this potential hangup that others may experience. Perhaps this impression wasn't considered.

Thanks!
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Pustulous Sac Dec 17, 2018 @ 7:53am 
The pentagram has a pretty long history in human culture. It's taken many forms over the years both in it's standard and inverted form. Most people, here in America, associate it with evil because we're a Christian dominated country and the pentagram, it's inverted form, represents the devil attacking heaven from the bottom with it's horns. In most countries, that are non-christian, it's just another symbol representing whatever.

I personally don't like magic and the occult as I have a strong Christian background but choose the play the game mostly just for the sword play as I find it interesting. If I tried avoiding everything I didn't agree with, then I'd be stuck in my house staring at the walls. It all comes down to personal choice.
BluWater Dec 18, 2018 @ 9:34pm 
Thank you for the informal post.
Fistandantilus Dec 19, 2018 @ 8:39am 
Thats just yummy meat. You arent worshipping pagan gods.

Cant be arsed to look up the exact place in the bible. Its in one of the letters of Paul.

In a nutshell:

There was festivals for pagan gods in Greece. And they handed out meat, sacred to these pagan gods that everyone who eats it, will be blessed by those pagan gods.

And someone wanted to know, if its sin to eat it.

And Paul answered: That depends on how you feel about it. If you eat it, because you want that blessing of that pagan god, its sin. If you eat it, because its yummy free meat, then its not.
Pustulous Sac Dec 19, 2018 @ 2:49pm 
The following is simply ment to be informational:

I believe what you are referring to is in 1st Corinthians chapter 8. Here, Paul is indeed saying that animals sacrificed or any meat offered to idols are considered neither holy or unholy as all gods, but the one true God, are false and therefore has no bearing on the meat. That is unless one specifically seeks out such sacrificial meat because the person eating it believes it is imbued with some power from the false deity. Such action would be considered a sin and should be avoided.

But sense we've now gone biblical with the discussion, lets point out a bit you missed further down in the chapter.

Paul also stated that because many of the newly converted Christians from Corinth, Greece (Corinthians) used to practice idolatry, eating said meat may bother or weaken some of the newly converted Christian's conscience and would therefore be considered a sin and, thus again, should be avoided. He even stated that he would avoid eating meat ever again if he thought it might wound the conscience of a fellow Christian or reflect negatively on God.

In other words, even if whatever action does not technically violate God's law, one should carefully consider appearance of such actions to others.
Squid Dec 21, 2018 @ 12:33pm 
Perhaps you could try looking at it this way.

The pentagram symbol itself has zero direct relevance to core Christianity. It was never depicted in the bible or other origin sources as being the symbol of the devil, or for any other purpose. It's not a Christian symbol in any way. The only reason it in later history became regarded as an evil symbol, is becuase it was used by other religions. These other religions did not use it to represent evil either, it was a good symbol representing spirit and creation.

However because worshiping other religions was not tollertated by Christianity in these earlier eras, it was denounced as being satanic in an effort to errase those religions and discourage worship of other faiths.

To asociate the pentagram with evil, is effectively the same as associating a statue of the Bhudha with evil. Had the two faiths been located differently geograpgically, it could quite likely have been Asian culture forcefully asociated with Satanism rather than European pagan culture. In reality, Bhudhist symbology is not satanic, and the pentagram no more either. I feel that as a modern day Christian, you should hopefully be able to overcome the past artifical persecution and slander of the symbol, and recognise that it has no bearing on your own beliefs.
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Emperor Void (Banned) Dec 22, 2018 @ 12:05am 
Back in the 1500's or 1600's, I don't recall which atm, the Pentacle/Pentagram was worn even by Christians in order to ward off evil. The symbol has existed in many cultures through out time. It isn't just Keltic/Druidic, it is also found in Egypt, Japan, and South America. The symbol is just a symbol. Untwist your panties, and GROW THE ♥♥♥♥ UP KID!
docphong (GER) Dec 23, 2018 @ 7:26am 
Don't tell BluWater to do the **** whatever! He (or she) was very respectful and modest and deserves the same respect! But still the said things are true: it is 2000 years since Jesus has left this world and ever since people have tried (rather successfully) to dilute, rape and steal his word. One effect is the pentagram being sensed as a satanic symbol (which it is not), another effect is that almost everyone forgot that a radical pacifism is THE central dogma of christianity. After all Jesus told everyone to love their enemies and violence was a no-go for original christians, even in self defence! So: if Jesus objected to BaS (i don't think He would, it's just a game, for christ's sake!), it would not be because of a pentagram, but because of the violence! A real Christian (i don't think there are more than a few hundred all over the world) would have to play this game by throwing away all his weapons and inviting the NPCs to share a bottle of healing potion. :D Or just go like: hey it's a game and watching a pentagram does not make me a satanist any more than watching a swastika in a WWII-game makes me a nazi.
Dorpz Dec 23, 2018 @ 9:31am 
There's nothing in the bible about video games, you're good fam
InevitableCheese Dec 26, 2018 @ 7:50am 
i wanted to play this virtual murder sim but i was dissapointed to hear it has satanic symbols. if these were replaced with crosses i could easily continue my crusade
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The Baron  [developer] Dec 26, 2018 @ 8:51am 
I have probably about 300 hours in this game across alpha to now and I can honestly say I never even noticed. 😬 However, I think I feel fairly confident in saying the developer was not attempting to insert any secret satanic symbology in the game haha. Possibly your reaction to it would be something equitable to Germany and the nazi flag; bothers some people and for others it's a non issue. But rest assured OP, no offense was intended! I'm gonna lock this thread I think to avoid any replies getting too personal. 😉 Cheers.
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