Blade & Sorcery

Blade & Sorcery

This game ruined VR for me
I bought VR just to play this game and no other game comes anywhere close to my enjoyment of it except for H3VR. I have tried so many other VR titles and they suck so bad. The only other decent ones I've ever found was Into the Radius, VRChat, and Thrill of the Fight.

Is this just as good as VR gets? Don't get me wrong, this game is still far from perfect. The AI is completely braindead and only offers a challenge if you severely limit yourself and fight 5+ at the same time. Using magic just completely negates 100% of the difficulty of the game. The physics are extremely janky and cutting people with your sword may as well be hitting them with a nerf bat. The performance is atrocious for how bad the graphics are. But it's the only VR game I've managed to sink some serious playtime into aside from VRChat.

Is there really no other decent VR game to play? I've tried so many games that people claim are amazing and I feel like I'm being gaslit. Hellsplit Arena was awful, Battle Talent was laughably awful, Pavlov is dead, I haven't tried Alyx yet but I'm not really interested in Half-Life.
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I cannot recommend Alyx enough, it's a beautiful game, even if you don't care about the HL universe.
I'm a BIG hater of the "floaty hands with no body" style of VR games, but Alyx just did it.. so well, its amazing. + mod support for added campaigns/stories
Originally posted by DeadlyKittin:
I cannot recommend Alyx enough, it's a beautiful game, even if you don't care about the HL universe.
I'm a BIG hater of the "floaty hands with no body" style of VR games, but Alyx just did it.. so well, its amazing. + mod support for added campaigns/stories
I'll probably pick it up when it next goes on sale, I suppose I have put it off long enough.
I enjoyed Boneworks. It has full body simulation, which is nice. But can also be a pain sometimes.
Originally posted by Poop Lord, Lord of Poop:
Is there really no other decent VR game to play? I've tried so many games that people claim are amazing and I feel like I'm being gaslit.

Try lowering your expectations of VR overall. Nothing is ever going to be perfect.

Look into Beatsaber. Thats a fun one! And lots of mod support
RatBoggles Jan 27 @ 11:58pm 
I wasn't very interested in the alyx story or anything but i enjoyed it just for how solid the vr was. There's also some cool mods that make it stray from the 'half life' theme.

Boneworks as someone else said is pretty solid, dont know about bonelab.

The walking dead: Saints and sinners is a solid title

Surv1v3 is a underrated (imo) zombie style game w co op and a pretty open world to boot.

Also perhaps take a look at all of the flatscreen games that were modded into VR after the fact.

Most games do not have the level of physics / interactables BaS, alyx & boneworks does tho
badgerish Jan 28 @ 10:46am 
H3VR/Hotdogs, horseshoes & hand-grenades. VR game-of-the-year last year, this year and next year. That is the game that has 'ruined' VR for me. The weapon handling, the weapon variety, the movement, the enemies, the physics, the mod-support. All top-class.

Underdogs. It very 'strongly styled' but if you are okay with that, it is a very fun physics-based brawler. You are a person controlling a small mech, so the slight disconnect of what you do IRL with your character does in VR and what the mech does in the game all feels natural.

Halflife: Alyx. as mentioned above. I'm replaying it currently.
Originally posted by badgerish:
H3VR/Hotdogs, horseshoes & hand-grenades. VR game-of-the-year last year, this year and next year. That is the game that has 'ruined' VR for me. The weapon handling, the weapon variety, the movement, the enemies, the physics, the mod-support. All top-class.

Underdogs. It very 'strongly styled' but if you are okay with that, it is a very fun physics-based brawler. You are a person controlling a small mech, so the slight disconnect of what you do IRL with your character does in VR and what the mech does in the game all feels natural.

Halflife: Alyx. as mentioned above. I'm replaying it currently.
Like I said in my post, H3VR is the only other game to really truly impress me. VRChat is fun and so is Arizona Sunshine, but I feel like BnS+H3VR are like THE VR games and everything else is just crap lol.
Underdogs does look fun though.
PeaceMaker Feb 1 @ 8:59am 
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Originally posted by Poop Lord, Lord of Poop:
I bought VR just to play this game and no other game comes anywhere close to my enjoyment of it except for H3VR. I have tried so many other VR titles and they suck so bad. The only other decent ones I've ever found was Into the Radius, VRChat, and Thrill of the Fight.

Is this just as good as VR gets? Don't get me wrong, this game is still far from perfect. The AI is completely braindead and only offers a challenge if you severely limit yourself and fight 5+ at the same time. Using magic just completely negates 100% of the difficulty of the game. The physics are extremely janky and cutting people with your sword may as well be hitting them with a nerf bat. The performance is atrocious for how bad the graphics are. But it's the only VR game I've managed to sink some serious playtime into aside from VRChat.

Is there really no other decent VR game to play? I've tried so many games that people claim are amazing and I feel like I'm being gaslit. Hellsplit Arena was awful, Battle Talent was laughably awful, Pavlov is dead, I haven't tried Alyx yet but I'm not really interested in Half-Life.
Originally posted by DeadlyKittin:
I cannot recommend Alyx enough, it's a beautiful game, even if you don't care about the HL universe.
I'm a BIG hater of the "floaty hands with no body" style of VR games, but Alyx just did it.. so well, its amazing. + mod support for added campaigns/stories

Don't like Alyx cos I don't have a choice to play as a man. Blade and Sorcery gives me that choice. In fact I can even play as a black man, which I am.

Now, onto the main topic, the only other game I see as good as Blade and Sorcery is Modded SkyrimVR expecially the Madg*d wabbajack with HIGGS and VRIK, etc.

Now that is like Blade and Sorcery big time and it reminds of SkyrimVR a lot. But if players can't be bothered with modding then, yea, B&S is where it's at for VR.
Last edited by PeaceMaker; Feb 1 @ 9:02am
If you have a sim rig with a wheel, pedals and optionally a shifter, driving sims like Assetto Corsa are some of the most fun I've ever had in VR. I haven't played any VR game that even comes close, but then again you do have dedicated physical controls with feedback rather than moving around two separate controllers so it is an unfair comparison in that regard. It can also get more expensive.
Originally posted by SmallbutDeadly:
If you have a sim rig with a wheel, pedals and optionally a shifter, driving sims like Assetto Corsa are some of the most fun I've ever had in VR. I haven't played any VR game that even comes close, but then again you do have dedicated physical controls with feedback rather than moving around two separate controllers so it is an unfair comparison in that regard. It can also get more expensive.
I have really wanted to try this but I am broke as hell and I imagine things are about to get a lot more expensive for reasons I won't mention so I guess I'm just SOL for now lol
Mokey Feb 4 @ 6:58pm 
Underdogs is one of my favorite vr games imo, just make sure you have a decent amount of room to play it since it has alot of physical movement. Highly recommend playing it
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Frostiken Feb 13 @ 10:39am 
VR is still in its infancy. VR is niche, owing to the need of increasingly-expensive hardware sets, the need for continually new technology, the high hardware demand, and most importantly, space to actually use it. Some people just can't even use VR equipment (disabled in some way, or have balance problems), the equipment is sweaty, not very comfortable, and battery life is limited.

All of this combines to mean that VR games have a pretty small audience. Half-Life: Alyx is an old game, but it's still the top seller on VR games and has been for years, because the audience getting VR headsets is very slowly expanding, so it's all new players buying the game for the first time.

Additionally, VR is not something for long-term play. I can slouch in my chair and drive trucks in Snowrunner for hours, but hours in a VR headset is misery. My face gets sweaty, the headset gets uncomfortable, it's mostly only for a couple hours at a time, max.

All of that corresponds to small budgets, which tends to mean things are limited in scope. This also has driven most VR development towards app-store-equivalent games, where they're short, easy experiences you can hop in and hop out of.

VR games typically have mediocre graphics, because of the requirement to double rendering for each eye, plus it needs to be compressed, pumped over a wireless link, and decompressed as fast as possible in order to make it feel seamless, puts a real strain, and as limited as VR is, limiting it even more to needing $2000 graphics cards nobody can even buy is going to do worse by you.

On top of it, VR headset hardware is largely limited by screen resolution, because pixels can only get so small, and high fidelity graphics in a VR headset don't actually look all that great, because the resolution at the center of your screen is so limited.

There's also major limitations to how VR can even work just because it's all digital simulation. You can't feel the weight and inertia of a sword. You can swing 'through' objects that otherwise would stop your movement.

This isn't "as good as VR gets", but it's as good as it gets right now. It's technology that has limitations.

On top of it, while the Quest 2/3 greatly expand the audience with low-cost options, it does have a problem that if you want to run software on it, you need to dumb-down your game, because those headsets internally are just smartphones. Blade & Sorcery: Nomad is their Quest version and it's much more limited in a lot of ways, with more limited graphics and physics.
Last edited by Frostiken; Feb 13 @ 10:44am
DuneLoon Feb 26 @ 4:45am 
wholeheartedly agree this game and h3vr is carrying vr in terms of replayability and even then its really not worth the money you spend on a good set to get a decent experience

walking dead saints and sinners 1 is pretty cool though and pavlov was very fun while it lasted

yes, you got gaslit.
Last edited by DuneLoon; Feb 26 @ 4:53am
Originally posted by Frostiken:
VR is still in its infancy.
10 years ago, maybe. It's been long enough that there should be a lot better games out there.

Originally posted by Poop Lord, Lord of Poop:
Is this just as good as VR gets?
I feel you here.

There are hundreds of games on VR, but most of them are "touch the stuff" games with no substance.
I think the big problem is that VR is still seen as a novelty not only to people but to studios, so most games are built with the idea that "this is the first VR game our customers may ever play", if that makes sense. They can never be too difficult or deep and complex or they may overwhelm people. This means VR veterans are completely incapable of finding a game that doesn't treat us like 8 year old children.
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