Any pro archers got tips for an aimlet?

[Madjar]

I want to use a bow, I really do.
I just can't aim for ♥♥♥♥.
I'm right handed with a left dominant eye. I have my bow in my left and arrow in my right.
I can't find a way to aim properly in any game with a bow.
Using a rift.
Any advice, tips, or a demon willing to grant me god like accuracy in exchange for my soul or something would be appreciated

[docphong (GER)]

I got much better with a bow the last weeks by - you won't believe it - practice! :D
I installed the "ethereal weapons" mod, it gives you a bow with unlimited arrows, so you can spam enemies with arrows from afar. You can also spawn the silver arrows quiver from "medieval mega pack" mod, which contains 1000 arrows (pretty much unlimited, too).
One practical advice (for right eye dominant people like myself, maybe it won't work for you):
Put the hand that holds the arrow behind your headset, so one eye is perfectly aligned with the arrow. You'll see the socket of the arrowhead as a free circle in the arrowhead. This helps a lot with aiming the left-right dimension. Then you "only" need to get the up-down dimension mastered. Which is hard enough, as you have to give the arrow a lead, dependent on the distance. But it is doable!
By now i built muscle memory and can hit torsos almost 100% up to 10m or so without any aiming time at all and maybe 70% at 40m with thorough aiming (hitting at all, not specifical body parts).
Headshot at 20m on a stationary target? Most of the time at first attempt.

[Doom]

Originally posted by Goring Blade:

I want to use a bow, I really do.
I just can't aim for ♥♥♥♥.
I'm right handed with a left dominant eye. I have my bow in my left and arrow in my right.
I can't find a way to aim properly in any game with a bow.
Using a rift.
Any advice, tips, or a demon willing to grant me god like accuracy in exchange for my soul or something would be appreciated

Rift meaning inside out tracking, yes?

The easiest way to shoot a bow in VR is to use sideways stance. I.e. horizontal bow. The arrow will point at he target and then it will be similar to intuitive aim in pistol whip.

The problem is that this sort of thing works best with smaller bows and in blade and sorcery it will be hard to pull the string all the way for maximum distance.

If you try to do proper archer stance, however, your arrow pulling hand can lose tracking, and in that case you likely won't be able to aim properly. Because the cameras are on the front plate of your headset, and you need to pull the string behind your ear, pretty much.

[Enorats]

I can't seem to aim with a bow either, and I actually used to compete in weekly archery tournaments back in college. I can use one in real life, though I'm not terribly good with a bare bow like the medieval ones in game.

Just this afternoon I downloaded a mod called Spectral Armory (I think the first poster actually referred to this one too, though they called it Ethereal Weapons). This mod allows you to use a spell to more or less instantly summon any of 10 different ghostly weapons into either hand, including a bow. The bow doesn't need arrows or a quiver, just draw and fire.

Oddly, this mod bow I'm able to use MUCH better than the normal bow.. which is really strange, because it literally IS a normal bow. Custom bows cannot currently be made, so the mod is just spawning a stock bow and adding a shader to it to give it the same appearance as the other summoned weapons. I've no idea why I'm able to use this so much more effectively, but it made a massive difference for me. You might consider giving it a shot. If nothing else, it's a really neat spell.

[Madjar]

Originally posted by docphong (GER):

I got much better with a bow the last weeks by - you won't believe it - practice! :D
I installed the "ethereal weapons" mod, it gives you a bow with unlimited arrows, so you can spam enemies with arrows from afar. You can also spawn the silver arrows quiver from "medieval mega pack" mod, which contains 1000 arrows (pretty much unlimited, too).
One practical advice (for right eye dominant people like myself, maybe it won't work for you):
Put the hand that holds the arrow behind your headset, so one eye is perfectly aligned with the arrow. You'll see the socket of the arrowhead as a free circle in the arrowhead. This helps a lot with aiming the left-right dimension. Then you "only" need to get the up-down dimension mastered. Which is hard enough, as you have to give the arrow a lead, dependent on the distance. But it is doable!
By now i built muscle memory and can hit torsos almost 100% up to 10m or so without any aiming time at all and maybe 70% at 40m with thorough aiming (hitting at all, not specifical body parts).
Headshot at 20m on a stationary target? Most of the time at first attempt.

I unfortunatly can't draw past the headset for the reason Doom has stated.
Issue for me is I also play with armour detection on, torso shots are no good for me 90% of the time.
I will keep practising, neglecting archery in VR has become a pain in my ass.
I've had to get used to throwing in most games to replace my ranged attacks, flashy as it is, it doesn't leave much for capacity when you only have 4 holsters.
I've also got MMP installed, I've not tried most of the arrows, the ones I did were super powerful and would just pen everything and that put me off

Originally posted by Doom:

Originally posted by Goring Blade:

I want to use a bow, I really do.
I just can't aim for ♥♥♥♥.
I'm right handed with a left dominant eye. I have my bow in my left and arrow in my right.
I can't find a way to aim properly in any game with a bow.
Using a rift.
Any advice, tips, or a demon willing to grant me god like accuracy in exchange for my soul or something would be appreciated

Rift meaning inside out tracking, yes?

The easiest way to shoot a bow in VR is to use sideways stance. I.e. horizontal bow. The arrow will point at he target and then it will be similar to intuitive aim in pistol whip.

The problem is that this sort of thing works best with smaller bows and in blade and sorcery it will be hard to pull the string all the way for maximum distance.

If you try to do proper archer stance, however, your arrow pulling hand can lose tracking, and in that case you likely won't be able to aim properly. Because the cameras are on the front plate of your headset, and you need to pull the string behind your ear, pretty much.

My main way for the tracking issue has been to push the bow out, while pulling the string back, this helps a little. Horizontal aim just doesn't seem to work for me at all, I'm not sure if it's tracking or what but arrows just seem random when I try.

Originally posted by Enorats:

I can't seem to aim with a bow either, and I actually used to compete in weekly archery tournaments back in college. I can use one in real life, though I'm not terribly good with a bare bow like the medieval ones in game.

Just this afternoon I downloaded a mod called Spectral Armory (I think the first poster actually referred to this one too, though they called it Ethereal Weapons). This mod allows you to use a spell to more or less instantly summon any of 10 different ghostly weapons into either hand, including a bow. The bow doesn't need arrows or a quiver, just draw and fire.

Oddly, this mod bow I'm able to use MUCH better than the normal bow.. which is really strange, because it literally IS a normal bow. Custom bows cannot currently be made, so the mod is just spawning a stock bow and adding a shader to it to give it the same appearance as the other summoned weapons. I've no idea why I'm able to use this so much more effectively, but it made a massive difference for me. You might consider giving it a shot. If nothing else, it's a really neat spell.

I'll give the spell mod a go, might save me a bit of cramp if I don't have to grab an arrow after every shot.

[Doom]

Originally posted by Goring Blade:

My main way for the tracking issue has been to push the bow out, while pulling the string back, this helps a little. Horizontal aim just doesn't seem to work for me at all, I'm not sure if it's tracking or what but arrows just seem random when I try.

Well, maybe you do need more practice.

I've been using sideways stance in skyrim a lot, and in blade and sorcery it is largely the same. In sideways stance I'd be holding the bow with the left hand and arrow with the right hand, the problem is string length because even if I hold the bow at fully extended arm in front of me, that's still not enough space to fully pull the string.

Blade and sorcery has severe arrow drop compared to skyrim, but aside from that it is largely the same thing as hip-firing in pistol whip using "intuitive aim".

[docphong (GER)]

An archery range in the home would be nice. Then maybe some time i would also become reasonably good with spear- and knife throwing.
Man do i SUCK at spear throwing!
XD

[Madjar]

Originally posted by docphong (GER):

An archery range in the home would be nice. Then maybe some time i would also become reasonably good with spear- and knife throwing.
Man do i SUCK at spear throwing!
XD

I can't seem to get enough force behind a spear throw, combine that with AI that has 100% tracking, all my spears just get blocked :(

[Doom]

I tried archery playthrough, and got killed by a spawn behind my back. Here's the video and it roughly demonstrates horizontal bow stance.

Can't say I'm great at it. The arrow drop is quite strong and it feels like arrows should fly a bit faster than this. There are also a few amusing moments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SPiTSQ_kIY

[docphong (GER)]

Originally posted by Goring Blade:

Originally posted by docphong (GER):

An archery range in the home would be nice. Then maybe some time i would also become reasonably good with spear- and knife throwing.
Man do i SUCK at spear throwing!
XD

I can't seem to get enough force behind a spear throw, combine that with AI that has 100% tracking, all my spears just get blocked :(

When i do hit, it is so satisfying! I always throw at slo mo and the extra power lifts them clean off their feet! But unfortunately it's really rare and at short distances. And throwing knives/axes: not a single hit in three years of playing.

[Doom]

Originally posted by docphong (GER):

An archery range in the home would be nice. Then maybe some time i would also become reasonably good with spear- and knife throwing.
Man do i SUCK at spear throwing!
XD

There's a wooden thing next to the map, you could try throwing knives at it, but it is very close. You can also use the dresser/cupboar/whatever its name is with the weapon book for target practice and shoot from the area with the bed. Using map as target also works, then you'd be shooting from the fireplace.

The original home had a manikin on the second floor and I think there were archery targets too.

[Madjar]

Originally posted by Doom:

Originally posted by docphong (GER):

An archery range in the home would be nice. Then maybe some time i would also become reasonably good with spear- and knife throwing.
Man do i SUCK at spear throwing!
XD

There's a wooden thing next to the map, you could try throwing knives at it, but it is very close. You can also use the dresser/cupboar/whatever its name is with the weapon book for target practice and shoot from the area with the bed. Using map as target also works, then you'd be shooting from the fireplace.

The original home had a manikin on the second floor and I think there were archery targets too.

Yep, I personally hope we get some extra space in the new home.
Nice garden with an archery range and a space for the chickens, so they don't keep breaking their necks as they walk about the home

[Madjar]

Originally posted by Doom:

I tried archery playthrough, and got killed by a spawn behind my back. Here's the video and it roughly demonstrates horizontal bow stance.

Can't say I'm great at it. The arrow drop is quite strong and it feels like arrows should fly a bit faster than this. There are also a few amusing moments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SPiTSQ_kIY

I take it back, my aim isn't so bad.
All jokes aside, arrows are a bit heavy in this

[Doom]

Originally posted by Goring Blade:

Originally posted by Doom:

I tried archery playthrough, and got killed by a spawn behind my back. Here's the video and it roughly demonstrates horizontal bow stance.

Can't say I'm great at it. The arrow drop is quite strong and it feels like arrows should fly a bit faster than this. There are also a few amusing moments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SPiTSQ_kIY

I take it back, my aim isn't so bad.
All jokes aside, arrows are a bit heavy in this

In my defense, last time I used a bow was probably months ago in skyrim. There's also a problem that I can't fully pull the bow string (If I pull fully, my right controller loses tracking) so they fly at partial strength.

I wish this game had a crossbow, though.

And speaking of ranged weapons druidic staff is much more satisfying. Though using it it doesn't give any physical exercise.

[Madjar]

Originally posted by Doom:

Originally posted by Goring Blade:

I take it back, my aim isn't so bad.
All jokes aside, arrows are a bit heavy in this

In my defense, last time I used a bow was probably months ago in skyrim. There's also a problem that I can't fully pull the bow string (If I pull fully, my right controller loses tracking) so they fly at partial strength.

I wish this game had a crossbow, though.

And speaking of ranged weapons druidic staff is much more satisfying. Though using it it doesn't give any physical exercise.

Crossbow?
I see I'm dealing with a man of fine tastes.
I too wish for a crossbow, doubt we'd get one though, could be odd reloading in VR, unless we get one of the wimpy ones we pull back by hand.
There is a mod that adds the dishonored (Dishonoured. Bugger if I know the spelling for it) crossbows to the game, didn't have enough OOMPH for my tastes though

[Doom]

Originally posted by Goring Blade:

Originally posted by Doom:

In my defense, last time I used a bow was probably months ago in skyrim. There's also a problem that I can't fully pull the bow string (If I pull fully, my right controller loses tracking) so they fly at partial strength.

I wish this game had a crossbow, though.

And speaking of ranged weapons druidic staff is much more satisfying. Though using it it doesn't give any physical exercise.

Crossbow?
I see I'm dealing with a man of fine tastes.
I too wish for a crossbow, doubt we'd get one though, could be odd reloading in VR, unless we get one of the wimpy ones we pull back by hand.
There is a mod that adds the dishonored crossbows to the game, didn't have enough OOMPH for my tastes though

There is a crossbow mod on nexus, but it hasn't been updated for u10, and I believe doesn't currently work.