Blade & Sorcery

Blade & Sorcery

CEO of La Responsabilité 2021 年 10 月 28 日 上午 10:39
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Are the devs abandoning pcvr in favor of quest?
An exclusive version of B&S, B&S Nomad, has just announced. As seen in other games like In Death: Unchained, the PCVR version is abandoned in favor of quest, is this the future of B&S as well?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGhfvY5giVA
最後修改者:CEO of La Responsabilité; 2021 年 10 月 28 日 上午 10:40
引用自 The Baron:
Hi guys! I totally can feel OP's apprehension because we have seen this happen with other games where things get "dumbed down" to the Quest. This is 100% not the case for us because we are splitting the Quest title off into it's own sister branch. :steamdance: Everything is talked about in the news here: https://warpfrog.com/nomad/

PCVR is the leader, as always, and the Quest version will be a sister game that will try it's best to follow PCVR, but only if technically possible. If it's not technically possible for Quest, well then that will suck but will not stop PC. An example of this right now is Nomad has no Citadel.

The Quest game supports mods 100% the same as PC; same easy installs, etc.

No roadmap changes for PCVR. The PCVR is the leader as I said, and Quest will get updates later, once they are stable on PC. So Nomad will have less incremental versions than PC as PCVR is the 'master'.

We thought of everything because it is near and dear to our hearts. So please read the news to quell any apprehensions that this might impact PCVR.
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Ryder 2021 年 10 月 28 日 上午 10:52 
This looks like a watered down version without mods
Raiden 2021 年 10 月 28 日 上午 11:23 
Did you not read anything they said? They explicitly stated that development of the pcvr version will continue unhindered

https://warpfrog.com/nomad/
最後修改者:Raiden; 2021 年 10 月 28 日 上午 11:25
CEO of La Responsabilité 2021 年 10 月 28 日 上午 11:38 
引用自 Raiden
Did you not read anything they said? They explicitly stated that development of the pcvr version will continue unhindered

https://warpfrog.com/nomad/
Yes I didn't read anything they said, very disappointed indeed. Still not gonna to read.
PINK PANDA 2021 年 10 月 28 日 下午 1:22 
引用自 abc櫻學家
引用自 Raiden
Did you not read anything they said? They explicitly stated that development of the pcvr version will continue unhindered

https://warpfrog.com/nomad/
Yes I didn't read anything they said, very disappointed indeed. Still not gonna to read.

Since you can't be bothered to read (your loss) here's an important snippet from the page which hopefully helps make you appreciate the benefits of Nomad for what it adds to PCVR:

"...if the game can run well on the Quest 2, it will also run well on PC. And with U10, that proved the case! All the optimization we did for the Quest 2 benefited the PC version. Most PCVR performance issues are fixed thanks to this and the game never ran so well, so it’s been a win/win."

Before you say something like "performance isn't a problem for my gaming PC" - I have a beast of a rig but I still appreciate the performance improvements and optimisations. Any "spare" power left over allows for further details and expansion down the line.

I think Nomad is only a good thing for B&S PCVR
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The Baron  [開發人員] 2021 年 10 月 28 日 下午 1:59 
Hi guys! I totally can feel OP's apprehension because we have seen this happen with other games where things get "dumbed down" to the Quest. This is 100% not the case for us because we are splitting the Quest title off into it's own sister branch. :steamdance: Everything is talked about in the news here: https://warpfrog.com/nomad/

PCVR is the leader, as always, and the Quest version will be a sister game that will try it's best to follow PCVR, but only if technically possible. If it's not technically possible for Quest, well then that will suck but will not stop PC. An example of this right now is Nomad has no Citadel.

The Quest game supports mods 100% the same as PC; same easy installs, etc.

No roadmap changes for PCVR. The PCVR is the leader as I said, and Quest will get updates later, once they are stable on PC. So Nomad will have less incremental versions than PC as PCVR is the 'master'.

We thought of everything because it is near and dear to our hearts. So please read the news to quell any apprehensions that this might impact PCVR.
Aftonstjarna 2021 年 10 月 28 日 下午 3:17 
引用自 The Baron
Hi guys! I totally can feel OP's apprehension because we have seen this happen with other games where things get "dumbed down" to the Quest. This is 100% not the case for us because we are splitting the Quest title off into it's own sister branch. :steamdance: Everything is talked about in the news here: https://warpfrog.com/nomad/

PCVR is the leader, as always, and the Quest version will be a sister game that will try it's best to follow PCVR, but only if technically possible. If it's not technically possible for Quest, well then that will suck but will not stop PC. An example of this right now is Nomad has no Citadel.

The Quest game supports mods 100% the same as PC; same easy installs, etc.

No roadmap changes for PCVR. The PCVR is the leader as I said, and Quest will get updates later, once they are stable on PC. So Nomad will have less incremental versions than PC as PCVR is the 'master'.

We thought of everything because it is near and dear to our hearts. So please read the news to quell any apprehensions that this might impact PCVR.
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cazanu 2021 年 10 月 29 日 上午 3:23 
the shaders look better after u10 on PC doubt its gonna be affected,least it was only for quest 2 wich still has a little juice,onward went for quest 1 too and got cs 1.6 1998 graphics lol
kwiatw 2021 年 10 月 29 日 上午 9:14 
They announced there will be no update parity for Quest nad PC, of course they made a PR spin to make it look like a good thing, but for people fluent in corporate speech it is obvious PC version is going to be abandoned soon (once they start making "real money" on Quest). The updates have been super slow, many naively believed it was do to COVID, now we know they have moved to developing for Quest.

The good news the game is not going to be "dumbed down"! (nobody bothers dumbing down dead product!)
Rhudda 2021 年 10 月 29 日 下午 12:33 
引用自 kwiatw
They announced there will be no update parity for Quest nad PC, of course they made a PR spin to make it look like a good thing, but for people fluent in corporate speech it is obvious PC version is going to be abandoned soon (once they start making "real money" on Quest). The updates have been super slow, many naively believed it was do to COVID, now we know they have moved to developing for Quest.

The good news the game is not going to be "dumbed down"! (nobody bothers dumbing down dead product!)

Apparently, you didn't read what The Baron wrote nor did you click on the link to read what it says there.
docphong (GER) 2021 年 10 月 29 日 下午 3:20 
引用自 kwiatw
They announced there will be no update parity for Quest nad PC, of course they made a PR spin to make it look like a good thing, but for people fluent in corporate speech it is obvious PC version is going to be abandoned soon (once they start making "real money" on Quest). The updates have been super slow, many naively believed it was do to COVID, now we know they have moved to developing for Quest.

The good news the game is not going to be "dumbed down"! (nobody bothers dumbing down dead product!)

In dubio pro reo!
We can start complaining when the game IS being abandoned/watered. Right now, they have just pushed out a major update for PCVR.
Also, from my past experience, this is the one developer that i trust when he says PCVR development will go unhindered. They always have been honest until now.
Also, Quest is the inferior platform and will put severe limitation to a game like this, being quite heavy on CPU (not exactly the Quest´s strength), so PC is where they can make this game shine. The Quest version will be a dull copy.
But of course Quest 2 is a big market and they (the developers) need to get their bills paid. What would you do in their place?
I have quite bad experiences myself from Onward opening up for Quest (Quest 1, that is!). But right now i trust Warpfrog not to make the same mistakes. They did take the first step right, to make the Quest version a standalone (not crossplay as in Onward).
Jack Of No Trades 2021 年 10 月 29 日 下午 3:53 
This isn't onward mate... I think we can trust them. Also THANK YOU for putting effort in to actually get mods! Why does no one put modifiable games on quest? you need to hack it or something but its kinda ridiculous. You guys are seriously awesome...
JigglyRitz 2021 年 10 月 29 日 下午 8:20 
引用自 Jack Of No Traits
This isn't onward mate... I think we can trust them. Also THANK YOU for putting effort in to actually get mods! Why does no one put modifiable games on quest? you need to hack it or something but its kinda ridiculous. You guys are seriously awesome...
♥♥♥♥ Onward, all my homies hate Onward.
Nex 2022 年 6 月 29 日 上午 11:26 
Well, I was going to buy this on Quest, but I am not buying it twice. Just give us Nomad if we buy PC version or other way around. Oculus store is so confusing with this crap. It tells me to download the phone app without telling me anything I buy there might not work on my PC. They expect everyone to be fluent in understanding the VR, while heavily promoting new users to buy quest 2..
Nex 2022 年 6 月 29 日 上午 11:29 
Also, as far as I can see with the PC version of Oculus is it is no different than the app. People say the PC version is for rift on forums everywhere. No where does it say that. You can add all oculus meta devices there, so it is very unclear. It is shady af selling games like it is two different platforms. Who needs Epic vs Steam rivalry when you can get it on the same app over at Oculus..
conr 2022 年 6 月 29 日 下午 12:15 
引用自 Nex
Well, I was going to buy this on Quest, but I am not buying it twice. Just give us Nomad if we buy PC version or other way around. Oculus store is so confusing with this crap. It tells me to download the phone app without telling me anything I buy there might not work on my PC. They expect everyone to be fluent in understanding the VR, while heavily promoting new users to buy quest 2..


引用自 Nex
Also, as far as I can see with the PC version of Oculus is it is no different than the app. People say the PC version is for rift on forums everywhere. No where does it say that. You can add all oculus meta devices there, so it is very unclear. It is shady af selling games like it is two different platforms. Who needs Epic vs Steam rivalry when you can get it on the same app over at Oculus..

Why did you revive an 8 month old post to say this? Crossbuy is something some developers choose to turn on, and some developers choose not to have it. The PC version can be played via the Oculus SDK or through steamVR, but no matter which PC platform you buy it on (steam or oculus PC store) you'll need to buy Nomad separately on Quest.
It's pretty clearly stated if the game you're buying is cross-buy over on Oculus, btw.
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