Question about gameplay

[Joshua]

On my first try I played the mode without permadeath and was rather good at wasting a lot of supplies early on.

The boss was tough and I died after using more supplies. The maze doesn't seem to scale or repopulate w/ supplies so it seems like I need to restart in order to have supplies again or gain XP. Which is fine, I was just playing that mode prior to switching to permadeath to learn. I was curious is the easiest mode intended to work this way? Or should I be able to resupply & level somehow w/out creating a new save?

Also, does permadeath have the maze reset each death since your level and character are completely erased but town saved? I would imagine so but I haven't had time to try yet!

Ty for info =) Awesome game & music!

[d33edwards]

By maze you mean caverns? Yes, the caverns reset after permadeath.

[Joshua]

I have no idea why I called it a maze! I think permadeath sounds like a better option w/ the vault safe thing & resetting cavern.

IMO the easiest mode w/out permadeath should be more of an endless mode w/ a scaling cavern that resets on death. The way the mode is now essentially makes it hardcore permadeath since you have to restart due to cavern not resetting (no more supplies/gp) & lose your town progress.

[zircon / Impact Gameworks]

In Adventure mode you can always just fight monsters a little below your level to acquire more items, or explore side areas or do Item Dreams to get more resources. It's always beatable! Plus if you simply create a new character in that slot you will not lose any meta progress.

[Joshua]

Ahhh I see, well I went back to the cavern but I barely got any XP or drops from the monsters from floor 1 to the first boss. So I restarted because I couldn't find anymore health flasks or health restoration items. Since I couldn't level or find any more items the boss wasn't beatable. That is the only reason I asked. Perhaps I am doing it wrong though.

The item dreams didn't reset either and I did those & used all supplies I got lol. Probably just a noob playthrough and will do better.

How do you create a new character in that slot? Change class at the guy in town? Also, does that reset the cavern? I must be just a huge noob lol. I'll get it right eventually, I promise =)

[tchan5158]

If you hover your cursor over a monster, it tells you how difficult it is compared to your level. If it says Worthless or Trivial, then most likely the monsters you kill won't leave any loot or resources at all.

Try fighting below average monsters. The monsters will always respawn (though a bit slowly). You can track these monsters down on the large map (press tab) by the red dots. Also, try to avoid hitting those shiney Pandora treasure chests (the ones with the jumpy lids). It makes ALL the monsters in the game a bit tougher each time. >_>;;;

Also, are you using a class that says its kinda hard to use? Try the easier classes (like the Bandit or um..I think the paladin?), where u can hit things or escape from things or shoot things from a distance.

By the way, if you haven't done so, grab a ranged weapon, like a slingshot or a bow, because you can switch to that when the enemy is kinda far and just pelt them until they reach you in melee range and then whack em with your melee weapon. If the monster is weak enough, you can probably kill them with just one skill/spell.

Don't rush into battle attracting 3 monsters at once. See you, shoot it with an arrow, then fall back to a safer location where you know monsters aren't at (check the large map). That way u can safely and easily kill it 1 vs 1 without having to frantically use your resources to heal and spam all your skills to survive.

A single item dream resets some npcs, but not all npcs. You might need to do a second one to reset the ones you want. Be sure to go to the cavern entrance in town to teleport to any places you've been that special npcs were at. You can stock up on them too if they renewed their inventory.

The guy in town that can train you different class skills doesn't change your class. You just learn other class skills. That's all. In order to change class, you need a job change scroll. But even if you change your class, the town and npc and everything is still the same. You still got your money, your npc progress, and nothing is renewed.

There is no way I know that will totally repopulate all the monsters on a map you've already cleared with your existing character staying alive. To get more resources from npcs, you gotta do Item Dreams to reset their inventory, or farm respawning monsters from a slightly lower difficulty map (this may take a while). Anyway, in item dreams, you can get a lot of loot from there as well :)

[Joshua]

@tchan, I tried that. I died then went back through the cavern from floor 1 to the boss, twice. There were no monsters above trivial so none of them gave much XP or any loot at all (as you stated). I can't do item dreams yet because I haven't unlocked the Dreamcaster, I guess. One day lol... do item dreams make it way easier?

The easiest game mode is basically permadeath mode, w/ the stuff kept on death as a bonus. Since you have to create a new character to get new supplies. From what I read the easiest mode was more of an endless mode that you could grind at and build the same character up. Like when you die everything resets (flasks, secret items, item rooms w/ banans and stuff, etc) and you end up in town. Must of just misread it.

IMO the easier mode should have a resetting/scaling (based on your character level) cavern on death. That way you can really grind at it and just gogogogo for ages. Dying and respawning in town with half gold/jp only makes it slightly easier than permadeath but I guess it is OK. Game is supposed to be permadeath not grind so I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel.

[tchan5158]

Oh no. So that means you were much higher level than any monsters. :( You were so close. All you had to do is kill the boss and the minions and you'll unlock the machine for Item Dream. (careful, you can still die in the dream). Um not sure what else you can do at this point other than what the dev said. :(

[Joshua]

I don't mind restarting... I immediately deleted the save and started a permadeath one after I determined I couldn't get more resources lol. Restarting w/ a new character would of been nice but I didn't raise at pet , plant trees or store anything. Nothing major lost. Just experimenting! I would rather play permadeath mode anyway since it is smoother. Endless mode would be cool I guess but that is more of a traditional dungeon crawler/rpg like Torchlight or something. Not sure if this game is trying to offer that but I thought it sounded neat as a way to get into the game. Might broaden the audience as well since dungeon crawlers are pretty popular. IDK I'm rambling now LOL =D