Inspiration from Hellgate London?

[MAup]

I see alot of similarities of the two games, by just watching the videos.
Reading through the description on the Steam page, reveals very little info about the game.

I read in the discussions its also inspired by Dark Souls and such.
Hellgate London are one of my alltime favourite games, however I am sadly one of those who never found Dark Souls to be enjoyable.

What is the plan for the game really?
I do want to know more before i deciede if i am to buy this or not.

[Antishyr]

Hello!

The gameplay is really similar in some ways to that of the Dark Souls franchise, in difficulty in particular. However, besides that there's not much these games can be compared. Hellpoint has ranged weaponry: railguns, rifles, energy cubes. All of them can be dual-wielded. Also, there are lots of "science fiction" hazards: the lack of oxygen, radiation, etc..

As far as inspirations go, I'm afraid Hellgate London is not among them. Event Horizon, Dead Space, DOOM were the ones that we draw our inspiration from. I hope this information will help you make up your mind.

[レイン]

I mean this dev can def say whatever they want.

This game is literally just hellgate London. (Hell, even the name) just logically speaking, not many people know what hellgate London is pretty much everyone knows what the souls trash is all about (pretty much ANY “hard” game is just auto a souls game) so I mean why WOULD a dev confirm that anyways? It’s like shooting urself in the foot. Compare your game to “hyped up trash” and that “crowd” will be following, NO ONE is going to be following a game “inspired by” Hellgate London. Just facts.

It’s marketing, literally dev just confirmed everything I am saying.
“ The gameplay is really similar in some ways to that of the Dark Souls franchise, in difficulty in particular. However, besides that there's not much these games can be compared. ” aka just because it’s a HARD game (aka difficulty) that’s the “comparison” it has with the souls trash franchise, ASIDE from that they share nothing? Yah and why is that?

Because GAMEPLAY wise, this game is just hell gate London, n u just made it “harder” 👏👏👏 regardless of u wanting to admit it or not, that’s what u did, from the actual GAMEPLAY (NOT the difficulty AND what the OP was originally asking) and the name of the game. U people literally just took hellgate London’s concept and made it harder n simply just don’t want to admit it. Why u straight up avoided the OPs question.

All the games u said were “inspiration” (event horizon, doom, dead space and DIFFICULTY wise souls game but other than DIFFICULTY no comparison) for making this game, yet the game doesn’t “look, feel, or PLAY” like ANY of those inspirations, but just like the OP said u can just LOOK at this game (before u play it) and it LOOKS like the ONE game u guys just didn’t “sadly” get inspiration from? Lmao more like u just don’t want people making the comparisons and calling u out for making a pretty much rip off game of it. Facts.

U avoid the OPs question (the only thing u “answered” about it was it didn’t have ANY inspiration) u compare this game with other games that don’t have ANY similarities to this game (because I played this on stadia and I can CONFIRM it’s just hellgate London but “harder”) u guys just don’t want to admit u didn’t “create” as much as this game as u are lying to people about. Sure your game, the idea etc could all be 100% original but as I’m saying this game “LOOKS, FEELS, and PLAYS” literally like this “upgraded” version of hellgate London just harder.

So for you guys to just brush the question off. Not even actually say, things like “well we didn’t have inspiration from it but it def has similarities to hellgate London” no u just straight up avoid the question (as I said I one both, I can CONFIRM regardless of what these devs want to tell you, the game is literally hellgate London but harder.

Not ONCE (when u was playing this game) did I “feel” or get ANY sense of these games u were “inspired” by. Doesn’t feel like doom, event horizon, dead space or dead souls in ANYWAY. What it does “feel” like and straight up LOOKS like (and why u people CHOSE that title u did 😉) is hellgate london. But that ONE game just has zero inspiration and u didn’t want to point out the facts that BOTH games have MORE in common with one another than any of your “inspirations”

Like sorry but I call people out on bs, n that’s all this is. Regardless of u guys wanting to admit u have played (hellgate London) and drew inspiration from it. Intentional or not, you guys just made a harder version of hellgate London. Game is in no way shape or form, trash souls anything, doom, event horizon, or dead space.

Yet Go PLAY hellgate London, then play this and u will IMMEDIATELY be like wow, this just feels like an updated version of hellgate London and just harder.

So sorry but very much BS. U people knew/know about hell gate London, u are also very well aware of the two things that game brings (it’s old, aka irrelevant at this point in life, n not many people know what it is, to this day) so obv u can get away with making a game that’s exactly like hellgate London, n no one will call you out on it.

Cause those two factors. then u go and say what inspired u to make this game n it’s all this HYPED UP stuff that when the Brainless puppets read, “oh this was inspired by doom and souls games I LOVE those games let me check it out” rather than the “this game was inspired by hellgate London? Wtf is that? I’m not getting this the “ like u get what I’m saying?

Literally marketing and bs.
As someone who OWNS both games, telling you right now, admit it or not, intentional or not, this is just hellgate London but harder. But no dev (in 2020/2021) is shooting themselves in the foot like that. They aren’t going to use an “irrelevant” game that not many know about to “compare” their new game, they are going to OBV pick POPULAR hyped trash to “compare” even if there is no actual COMPARISONS within the games to be made, yet again, play hellgate London then “hell”point and like I said IMMEDIATELY u will “feel” like u are playing hellgate London, but you guys had “Sadly” NO inspiration from that game…….I bet. 👏👏👏👏

[MAup]

Thank you so much for this comment, レイン.
I loved Hellgate and I were hoping for another game like it, but I could care less than nothing about games like souls, so they shot themselves in the foot, and if it is what you say is true, lied about it aswell, and shot the other foot aswell as the guy next to them.

Not touching this game, nor anyhting from these devs ever.

[BigCheese]

This isn't like Hellgate London though. I have both as well. Bizarre thread.

[LightStriker]

Just watched two gameplay videos back to back; Hellgate and Hellpoint. I honestly have no idea what this guy is talking about. The fact that they have "hell" in the name is pretty much the only thing they have in common.

[Antishyr]

Originally posted by LightStriker:

I honestly have no idea what this guy is talking about.

Same.

[Moon Troll]

Originally posted by レイン:

I mean this dev can def say whatever they want.

This game is literally just hellgate London. (Hell, even the name) just logically speaking, not many people know what hellgate London is pretty much everyone knows what the souls trash is all about (pretty much ANY “hard” game is just auto a souls game) so I mean why WOULD a dev confirm that anyways? It’s like shooting urself in the foot. Compare your game to “hyped up trash” and that “crowd” will be following, NO ONE is going to be following a game “inspired by” Hellgate London. Just facts.

It’s marketing, literally dev just confirmed everything I am saying.
“ The gameplay is really similar in some ways to that of the Dark Souls franchise, in difficulty in particular. However, besides that there's not much these games can be compared. ” aka just because it’s a HARD game (aka difficulty) that’s the “comparison” it has with the souls trash franchise, ASIDE from that they share nothing? Yah and why is that?

Because GAMEPLAY wise, this game is just hell gate London, n u just made it “harder” 👏👏👏 regardless of u wanting to admit it or not, that’s what u did, from the actual GAMEPLAY (NOT the difficulty AND what the OP was originally asking) and the name of the game. U people literally just took hellgate London’s concept and made it harder n simply just don’t want to admit it. Why u straight up avoided the OPs question.

All the games u said were “inspiration” (event horizon, doom, dead space and DIFFICULTY wise souls game but other than DIFFICULTY no comparison) for making this game, yet the game doesn’t “look, feel, or PLAY” like ANY of those inspirations, but just like the OP said u can just LOOK at this game (before u play it) and it LOOKS like the ONE game u guys just didn’t “sadly” get inspiration from? Lmao more like u just don’t want people making the comparisons and calling u out for making a pretty much rip off game of it. Facts.

U avoid the OPs question (the only thing u “answered” about it was it didn’t have ANY inspiration) u compare this game with other games that don’t have ANY similarities to this game (because I played this on stadia and I can CONFIRM it’s just hellgate London but “harder”) u guys just don’t want to admit u didn’t “create” as much as this game as u are lying to people about. Sure your game, the idea etc could all be 100% original but as I’m saying this game “LOOKS, FEELS, and PLAYS” literally like this “upgraded” version of hellgate London just harder.

So for you guys to just brush the question off. Not even actually say, things like “well we didn’t have inspiration from it but it def has similarities to hellgate London” no u just straight up avoid the question (as I said I one both, I can CONFIRM regardless of what these devs want to tell you, the game is literally hellgate London but harder.

Not ONCE (when u was playing this game) did I “feel” or get ANY sense of these games u were “inspired” by. Doesn’t feel like doom, event horizon, dead space or dead souls in ANYWAY. What it does “feel” like and straight up LOOKS like (and why u people CHOSE that title u did 😉) is hellgate london. But that ONE game just has zero inspiration and u didn’t want to point out the facts that BOTH games have MORE in common with one another than any of your “inspirations”

Like sorry but I call people out on bs, n that’s all this is. Regardless of u guys wanting to admit u have played (hellgate London) and drew inspiration from it. Intentional or not, you guys just made a harder version of hellgate London. Game is in no way shape or form, trash souls anything, doom, event horizon, or dead space.

Yet Go PLAY hellgate London, then play this and u will IMMEDIATELY be like wow, this just feels like an updated version of hellgate London and just harder.

So sorry but very much BS. U people knew/know about hell gate London, u are also very well aware of the two things that game brings (it’s old, aka irrelevant at this point in life, n not many people know what it is, to this day) so obv u can get away with making a game that’s exactly like hellgate London, n no one will call you out on it.

Cause those two factors. then u go and say what inspired u to make this game n it’s all this HYPED UP stuff that when the Brainless puppets read, “oh this was inspired by doom and souls games I LOVE those games let me check it out” rather than the “this game was inspired by hellgate London? Wtf is that? I’m not getting this the “ like u get what I’m saying?

Literally marketing and bs.
As someone who OWNS both games, telling you right now, admit it or not, intentional or not, this is just hellgate London but harder. But no dev (in 2020/2021) is shooting themselves in the foot like that. They aren’t going to use an “irrelevant” game that not many know about to “compare” their new game, they are going to OBV pick POPULAR hyped trash to “compare” even if there is no actual COMPARISONS within the games to be made, yet again, play hellgate London then “hell”point and like I said IMMEDIATELY u will “feel” like u are playing hellgate London, but you guys had “Sadly” NO inspiration from that game…….I bet. 👏👏👏👏 :BloodRayne:

.... ummmm
allrighty than ... you do realize the Combat takes inspiration from Dark Souls and also the *map* design Shortcuts areas connecting to eachother etc whilst the Atmosphere takes from Dead Space etc.
on a side note *how* do you know they didnt take inspiration from those games ?
wheres the *proof*

[Insomnus]

Originally posted by レイン:

I mean this dev can def say whatever they want.

This game is literally just hellgate London. (Hell, even the name)

Hellpoint doesn't have randomly generated levels, so its 'literally' not.