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x.vadim Jan 11, 2023 @ 5:05pm
Defeat 75k enemies with Nerys' Spiritual Weapon attack?
Any tricks how to do this faster? It looks like Widdle/Alyndra speeds only Neris herself but not her Spiritual Weapon.
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Daggot Jan 13, 2023 @ 4:25pm 
Originally posted by LostSoul:
If I get this one at all, it'll take the entire season, because I'm not going out of my way to grind down 75k kills with a *SINGLE* champion, no matter who the champion happens to be. The absolute fastest that can get done is TWO hours, and that's with 10x acceleration going non-stop. Because only one champion can have Spiritual Weapon, and only one champion attacks faster than once per second (Ishi can get to 0.73s but would be counterproductive to use). This was a really badly designed challenge.
How do you figure 2 hrs? I'm at like hr 8 going non-stop and still have 400k to go. :(
LostSoul Jan 13, 2023 @ 6:31pm 
Originally posted by Daggot:
Originally posted by LostSoul:
If I get this one at all, it'll take the entire season, because I'm not going out of my way to grind down 75k kills with a *SINGLE* champion, no matter who the champion happens to be. The absolute fastest that can get done is TWO hours, and that's with 10x acceleration going non-stop. Because only one champion can have Spiritual Weapon, and only one champion attacks faster than once per second (Ishi can get to 0.73s but would be counterproductive to use). This was a really badly designed challenge.
How do you figure 2 hrs? I'm at like hr 8 going non-stop and still have 400k to go. :(

The fastest you can get a champion's attack speed is 0.98 seconds. That's roughly 75k seconds worth of attacks (you can easily keep a flow of 1 enemy per second for said champion to smack) or about 20 hours. Throw on 10x game acceleration, and that's 2 hours. As others have said, using Talin's off-spec, you can restrict your formation's damage output to evil champions, so Artemis, Warduke, etc. If the entirety of the rest of your formation is good or neutral, then the *ONLY* champion who can kill things will be your one evil DPS champion, who also happens to be the one getting the Spiritual Weapon buff.

As for how you'd go about this, that's pretty simple. Fen for your DPS (otherwise you need to push further until Fen's attacks aren't strong enough to kill things anymore). Virgil for his 2s attack speed reduction. Then pad out your formation with non-evil champions who either increase spawn rates (Deekin, Tatyana) or have high wisdom scores (placed adjacent to Fen).
Daggot Jan 13, 2023 @ 6:50pm 
Originally posted by LostSoul:
Originally posted by Daggot:
How do you figure 2 hrs? I'm at like hr 8 going non-stop and still have 400k to go. :(

The fastest you can get a champion's attack speed is 0.98 seconds. That's roughly 75k seconds worth of attacks (you can easily keep a flow of 1 enemy per second for said champion to smack) or about 20 hours. Throw on 10x game acceleration, and that's 2 hours. As others have said, using Talin's off-spec, you can restrict your formation's damage output to evil champions, so Artemis, Warduke, etc. If the entirety of the rest of your formation is good or neutral, then the *ONLY* champion who can kill things will be your one evil DPS champion, who also happens to be the one getting the Spiritual Weapon buff.

As for how you'd go about this, that's pretty simple. Fen for your DPS (otherwise you need to push further until Fen's attacks aren't strong enough to kill things anymore). Virgil for his 2s attack speed reduction. Then pad out your formation with non-evil champions who either increase spawn rates (Deekin, Tatyana) or have high wisdom scores (placed adjacent to Fen).

Do this also require using Fen's feat? The way it reads I don't think it would help the quest counter.
Daggot Jan 13, 2023 @ 7:12pm 
OOOOH.. ok, yes, right now her feat is working on the quest counter. Devs might nerf that. Ugh. I bought chests so I'm short now. BAH!
SotF Jan 13, 2023 @ 8:28pm 
I'm at 32k for it at the moment (Only have that and the last couple favored foe milestones currently open for the season)
Tinks5134 Jan 13, 2023 @ 9:03pm 
Originally posted by Westelch:
I use Nerys, Tatyana as Tank and Fen at level 70 on Deadwinter Day (Fen) Free Play - with no automatic progress. Speed Core and a Large Potion of Speed. Now it runs for 33 minutes and i have a progress 4750 kills.

PS: I use the Feat. "I Don´t Trust This" which makes that every kill, 4 kills count
Thanks this worked for me ;)
☠LLMC Jan 13, 2023 @ 10:13pm 
Originally posted by Daggot:
OOOOH.. ok, yes, right now her feat is working on the quest counter. Devs might nerf that. Ugh. I bought chests so I'm short now. BAH!

I don't think the nerf is needed since her position prevents her from sharing speed with Shandie. And the skill is not an infinite upper limit, it is limited.
SheepGravy Jan 14, 2023 @ 8:07am 
Another 6 hours I should have mine finished. Let it run all night on Crused Farmer 276 with Virgil, Neyrs and Dhalius, and Orkira and Widdle. About 30k kills left. I could plug a few more speed champs in but as long as the counter is moving I am happy.
Tyberi Jan 14, 2023 @ 11:44am 
I've just set my farm up mixing all valueble tips in this topic.
So far I got 5500 kills progress after 15 mins of running so it's gonna be around 20k / hour
( with 1 Large Speed Potion )

1) Using Fen with "I Don't Trust This" feat is true game changer here
( 4x faster quest progression )

2) Nerys with 0,88 attack cooldown
( Virgil + Hew Maan, reducing Dhadius attack cooldown shared by Widdle into Nerys )

3) Enemies spawn fast enough to let low cooldown attack to work at 100% efficiency
( Deekin "Condifence in the Boss" + Widdle "Tasty Friends" + Minsc "Boastful" )

4) I run my farm at Tomb of Annihilation - Running of the Saurs - 282 stage with sailors, where Minsc constantly provide additional sailors to kill
( but this is pure coincidence, I was at first aiming at undead farm with different setup, but wasn't happy with the result and decided to tweak it a bit )

5) The key is to set Nerys damage in a way she won't be able to kill enemies by herself, only by Spiritual Weapon. ( Ofc other heroes must not kill anything either )

EDIT:
TASK DONE
It was almost exacly 22k after first hour with Large Speed Potion, I decided not to waste another one because without potion it was still 10k / hour, fast enough to let me finish the task in one evening.
Last edited by Tyberi; Jan 15, 2023 @ 12:47am
Daggot Jan 14, 2023 @ 1:46pm 
Bought the feat. It made all the difference. That really sucks for newer players. 50k if you don't have a solid gem farm team w/Briv is very difficult to do.
kab_reg Jan 14, 2023 @ 2:48pm 
Yep. Even in the endgame it is not exactly a pittance.
Blood Jan 14, 2023 @ 3:01pm 
This quest is insane. 100 is hard enough to get, it should be 100.
SheepGravy Jan 14, 2023 @ 6:31pm 
I've been running about 24 hours or so now with a few speed pots and I am within 2.5k now. Going to play some Bonemancer while I wait.
Sydeout Jan 14, 2023 @ 7:59pm 
Have Fen, every kill counts as 4. I finished in one night with Fen, Nerys, Havilar, Dhadius on Mad Wizard (Havilar to get "foes" as well).
Graufalke Jan 14, 2023 @ 10:07pm 
If you have not completed it yet, Mirtwinter Day in the current event works nicely.

Place Nerys in the center.
No one above and below her.
Get 6 spaces 4 of which are adjacent to Nerys to modify her attack speed. I have her on a 1.5 second cooldown.
Popped my speed potions and just let it run stalled at a point where I wont lose the area.

I have Fen's 50k gem feat which certainly helps.

Cranking out about 24k an hour.

(I have Imoen tanking at the front with Stoneskin to amuse myself).
Last edited by Graufalke; Jan 14, 2023 @ 10:13pm
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