Briv and Miria and Dark Urge

[Nastytang]

Briv and Miria I need help with the formation on the last one for T4 for each of them.
Dark Urge I need formation help for T4 Q2 and T4 Q3
Itry to remember who plays well with each other but I forget by the next day )-: So thanks if I get help and thanks for reading if I don`t get help.

[nth_henchman]

I often mix Adversaries with Black Dice and Kas. Best results depend on everybody becoming undead, to stack Desmond. My DUrge formations didn't need to be that involved.

DUrge V2: I used the Adversaries, Birdsong, and Minsc with the tadpole feat.
https://ic.byteglow.com/f/6u_808f9a92158d0781938e_21232321112311

DUrge V3: For BUD-setting, I used the Adversaries, Volo, and Val with her alignment change feat.
https://ic.byteglow.com/f/6u_818f9a80678d8e929f93_1212231132231

When I needed extra armor breaking, I switched in Esmeralda, Hew Mann, Grimm, and Diana for knockback/stun.
https://ic.byteglow.com/f/6u_a18f9a81678d4b924694_1121231132121

Remember stacking abilities on several of these champs when you need a good BUD spike.

correction: Two champions transposed. My saved formation was incorrect.
https://ic.byteglow.com/f/6u_818f9a67808d8e929f93_1212121132231

[nth_henchman]

Briv's V3 was more complicated, I used three formations, always with Kas and Desmond.
To do most of the work
https://ic.byteglow.com/f/4e_51608067000099815e46_110230022221
To set BUD
https://ic.byteglow.com/f/4e_9960806700008e9f5e81_20230013222
Later in the run, it was necessary to shift people to the front until everyone had been killed at least once.
And to deal with the giants later on, using Diana's and Laezel's ults for stun and knockback
https://ic.byteglow.com/f/4e_51608067000099814694_1102300222121

[Tamara]

I find that Dark Urge is at his best with as many Absolute Adversaries as possible.

[benji120]

I would highly recommand going on the official discord, there you can post screenshots of your champions and account power and people can help you better. The discord is really active and many will gladly help you there.

[DRIFTER]

im not seeing how the posted formation hits e420? at best, 375. what am i missing?

[Hecate]

Legendary levels?

[nth_henchman]

I have some level 5 legendaries, I haven't made anything higher yet. Modron core was only providing e24%.

For DUrge, several members of the Adversaries have stacking buffs. Astarion's Well Fed with the feat to increase maximum stacks. Wyll's Bravado. Karlach's Rage combined with her ult. Laezel's Aberration Hunter. With all of those at maximum, BUD exceeded e420.

For Briv, the entire process was messy. Kas takes a long time to build up Mortal Pawns stacks. Desmond started with three stacks of Lament the Lost from the escort wagon. When I needed more stacks on Desmond, that required moving people to the front of the formation just to get them killed, until everyone in my BUD-setting formation had been turned by Kas. Otherwise I was just getting pushed back every time the forward wagon got hit, with only the front column having been turned. Desmond's Lament ability, even at low level, provides a significant buff with 10 or more stacks.

[DRIFTER]

even with astarian's ult and building stacks i can't beat e390 which doesn't come close to the necessary 420. legendaries on most characters, all characters available. what core?

1600 is an exercise in frustration, the game is no longer fun.

[nth_henchman]

I now assume we're talking about DUrge V3. I wasn't sure before. I didn't run into near as much trouble as you seem to be. I'm pretty sure I was knocking on e400 when the party hit soft cap, without full stacks on most buffs.

Fast core. Switching to Modest or Unaffiliated would have been good for a few more e's, but wasn't necessary this time.
Full set of huge potions, no more. Most global blessings, most global patron perks except Elminster's.
One of the characters I used doesn't have full epics yet.

1600 is often frustrating, I agree. 1400 can be, depending on restrictions.

I was just reviewing the formation I posted, and I may have goofed. I think on the BUD-setter, I have Val and Laezel swapped. I know DUrge was my main DPS, not Laezel, and in that position Val isn't duplicating Astarion's Outflank.

[DRIFTER]

swapping val to top did add a stack but did nothing to bud. i am lost with this game.

[nth_henchman]

Originally posted by DRIFTER:

swapping val to top did add a stack but did nothing to bud

I wasn't even thinking about the additional stack on Val's Tregrum ability, I was thinking about Socialite, which would duplicate Asterion's Outflank, probably amplify it on your main DPS. That should have done something noticeable.

Originally posted by nth_henchman:

Several members of the Adversaries have stacking buffs. Astarion's Well Fed with the feat to increase maximum stacks. Wyll's Bravado. Karlach's Rage combined with her ult. Laezel's Aberration Hunter.

At the risk of unintended insult, I trust you remembered that all these abilities reset their stacks when you change areas, and that you turned off auto progress (hotkey G) while the stacks build up.

[Hecate]

Originally posted by DRIFTER:

swapping val to top did add a stack but did nothing to bud. i am lost with this game.

It probably added a positionnal heal stack or something like these. That will only affect BUD very slightly adding a stack to taegrum.

[DRIFTER]

since this adversaries comp is not doing a thing, is there an artemis formation that could work to clear this?

[sindahir]

right now im at around e430 with my durge group. there is a spreatsheet around with all formation settings for them. but im miles away from 1600, most of the times 1350-1400 max.
i think its cause some of my patrons lacking behind or half of the group is just at legendary1 equip. this weekend i think i will get some legendary levels again.
but dont forget to get them a bit ilvls as well. mines are now at ilvl 1000

[kab_reg]

Originally posted by sindahir:

i think its cause some of my patrons lacking behind or half of the group is just at legendary1 equip.

Mostly the latter.