That guy on the picture, isn't he Eric from 1983 show Dungeons & Dragons?

[Hurricane]

I used to watch that stuff in the 80ies, I'm pretty sure that's him.
How is he related to this game?

[kab_reg]

Saturday Morning Squad affiliation is from that show.

[Derpykat5]

Yes, that is him. It's literally him. You can recruit him as a character now along with the Dungeon Master, Presto, Diana, and Bobby (no Sheila yet, but it's likely she'll be added soon).

[kab_reg]

In about two months.

[rdkehoe]

Forgotten Realms = D&D.

[Hurricane]

Originally posted by Derpykat5:

Yes, that is him. It's literally him. You can recruit him as a character now along with the Dungeon Master, Presto, Diana, and Bobby (no Sheila yet, but it's likely she'll be added soon).

Nice. :)

Originally posted by rdkehoe:

Forgotten Realms = D&D.

Yes, it's probably one of the most common setting of D&D ... but that wasn't the question ^_^;;;

[Hecate]

Originally posted by rdkehoe:

Forgotten Realms = D&D.

Well, that's the most popular setting since the 1990's.

But at the time the cartoon was released, Forgotten Realms were still a personal & unofficial Ed Greenwood's campaign setting, even if he wrote some articles in Dragon Magazine about them. It's only since 1987 that FR are an official setting. The cartoon being aired prior that (1983), it was originally in no way associated with FR. The official D&D setting at that time was Greyhawk, the campaign setting from Gary Gygax — and some of the most famous names from D&D spell list come from here (Melf, Bigby, Mordenkainen, Tenser).

I don't think the cartoon was associated with a particular world in 1983, but should it be one, it would have been Greyhawk so.

What we can agree is the settings have evolved since 1980's and some things have crossed universe (through a common multiverse?), like Vecna was originally a Greyhawk villain & Strahd a Ravenloft one too. So currently and since their cameo in the 2023 movie we can associate Saturday Morning Squad to FR (but they are still not canon), but we can't absolutely do it back in 1983.

[rdkehoe]

Well you asked "How is he related to this game?" He's a DnD character, the game is Forgotten Realms, which is a DnD campaign, hence the relation? Haha.

[Hurricane]

Originally posted by rdkehoe:

Well you asked "How is he related to this game?" He's a DnD character, the game is Forgotten Realms, which is a DnD campaign, hence the relation? Haha.

In essence I was asking if the game was about that old show or if it was a coincidence or even some click-bait.
I'm amazed that it is being used. I expect most people knowing about it are at least in their forties. Granted, not a small player based but way less than the millennials and the kids.

[rdkehoe]

Yea I thought it was pretty cool too. I was more excited about Minsc, Catti, Drizzt and the bunch, BG1 and 2 was a childhood favorite :)

[JC]

OP: those cartoons are on a DVD box set now, but i have an old VHS tape with about 14 or so episodes complete with vintage 80's commercials. The cartoon isn't as dated in many respects, but those commercials are amazing!

Originally posted by rdkehoe:

Yea I thought it was pretty cool too. I was more excited about Minsc, Catti, Drizzt and the bunch, BG1 and 2 was a childhood favorite :)

That would be a great introduction to dnd as a child. To me that was the point that took a leap forward. Might and magic and ultima were good, but BG was a leap forward.

[alo_obert]

Originally posted by Hurricane:

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In essence I was asking if the game was about that old show or if it was a coincidence or even some click-bait.
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If I had to choose from that list, I would definitely go with the click-bait reason. CNE pushing those nostalgia levers.

[Derpykat5]

Originally posted by alo_obert:

Originally posted by Hurricane:

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In essence I was asking if the game was about that old show or if it was a coincidence or even some click-bait.
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If I had to choose from that list, I would definitely go with the click-bait reason. :lunar2020gigglemonkey: CNE pushing those nostalgia levers. :lunar2020playfuldog:

I think the more appropriate term is "trend-chasing", since Clickbait nowadays implies that the subject is not being presented in an honest fashion.

[Count_Dandyman]

Originally posted by alo_obert:

Originally posted by Hurricane:

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In essence I was asking if the game was about that old show or if it was a coincidence or even some click-bait.
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If I had to choose from that list, I would definitely go with the click-bait reason. CNE pushing those nostalgia levers. :lunar2020playfuldog:

given the cartoon characters had a cameo in the movie and are featured in the artwork for the new edition I don't think this is a case of CNE pushing the nostalgia levers even if they may have been nudged by whoever is pulling them.

[JC]

Or maybe it's because many people have been requesting him and the rest being added, my self included. Believe it or not gamers are not just children and these days gamers in their 70-80's is not uncommon, unlike in the 70's and 80's. First gen gamers are now in their 50's.

Originally posted by Count_Dandyman:

given the cartoon characters had a cameo in the movie and are featured in the artwork for the new edition I don't think this is a case of CNE pushing the nostalgia levers even if they may have been nudged by whoever is pulling them.

The cartoon cameo in the movie was an great easter egg. Id put it up there with one of the best of all time. If you can name something on the level go for it.


BTW, what the heck is up with everyone always claiming nostalgia on everything? Can't people just like things because they like them and are good? Basically everything is personal taste. I look at steams top 100 and think, 90% sucks, then i say something i enjoy and someone claims well that's nostalgia. I find it all rather annoying.

[Hecate]

Hmmm, I think if I wouldn't have seen it as a kid, I would never considered that cartoon as good because it is not, with my adult eyes – poor story, clichés characters, unsurprising twists. That kind of definition of nostalgia to see a thing better than it was because we seen it in a good or "innocent" mood in the past.

There is movies that are awful pieces that I like because I saw them in good circunstances (first time in thater with a GF, etc.) — and if I have to judge them, I'll grade them one or two point above what they deserve. It's a thing to like something, it's another thing to understand that our likeness can be biased (and it's normal to be biased, in fact we can't be unbiased toward things).

As you said to each his opinion, there is nothing wrong to say you like it. But there is nothing wrong to say nostalgia makes you like it more than it deserves out of it. The point that nostalgia can bias a opinion is not just an opinion, it's a fact, that time. I don't think saying it is a personnal attack. You've the right to refute it or disbelieve it, but having the right is completly different than being right to do so.

That cartoon being the entry door in RPG for many of old gamers precisely have that Proust's Madeleine effect. There is nothing wrong to be nostalgic about things. Wrongness is to think nostalgia can be objective (= things were better before* fallacy).

Analogy: When I was young, I thought https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gr-_oWYvsDU/hqdefault.jpg was a photorealistic game. There was probably some bias, along my youngness, making me think of that then (like lack of better (future) references). But if today, I claim that Decathlon** on c64 was the most realistic game I ever play, you can starts to ask about my mental health (or think I live in a cave since the mid 80's).

*Those words are probably as old as human language minus one generation. There first iteration was "Gruuut ruut gruuut ruuuut ruuuuuuut" probably.
**Also known as Worst Joystick Killer Ever.