Is someone actually better then celeste ?

[UIE First Citizen]

I have read guides and overall it is hinted the celeste is the best.
Is it true ?
There is a free gate for korth, i am wondering if it is worth picking him up ?
Thanks for the info,
Cheers,

[Phantom]

No (but its heavily RNGear dependant)

Slot 1 - Turiel - Support
Slot 2 - Regis - Support / Debuff
Slot 3 - Gromma - Support / Debuff
Slot 4 -
Slot 5 - Pwent - Support
Slot 6 - Krull - Support / Debuff - Undispited
Slot 7 - Minsc - Support / Debuff - When facing his enemy type
Slot 8 -
Slot 9a - Birdsong - Support
Slot 9b - Morgan - Support - Select formations only
Slot 10 - Tyril - Support - Generally undisputed
Slot 11a - Avern - Support
Slot 11b - Warden - Debuff
Slot 12 - Zorbu - Support / DPS - Undisputed DPS king

These are the ones I typically use

[Noeh23]

Best for what? Korth has totally different applications that Celeste. Korth speeds up attacks considerably so I did find use for him in certain situations. As a pure DPS buffer he is not as good.

For the time gate it depends who esle you have for choice

Celeste is by far not "the best" in the slot but it kind of depends on gear.
All variables being the same I would say Regis/Talin are the must haves from that slot. Donaar has his uses (armored enemies and pushback and AoE attack)
Krydle is kind of meh
Celeste you just have and the healing she provides did help a lot when I started the game

[Count_Dandyman]

And of course in any discussion about Champions to get you have to consider different variants, bosses or formations may turn the usual must have champion into something unusable or unable to perform well while boosting those that would usually be overlooked so its a good idea to give yourself options by filling up the roster even if you won't always use them.

[OldGamer]

Slot 2 for me is...

Korth is in basically every formation I have at the start (speed)

Donny ,is a good boy. He'll command your formation and kill all those mobs.

Regis, is mainly for gold or buffing Zorbu to be honest.

Krydale - never use

Talin - find hard to find a use for him to be honest.

Celeste I rarely use as Briv sort of keeps everybody out and if you are under an AOE boss I use Tyril in moonbeam or sissapia.

[Soteria]

Who I usually uses:

Slot 1 - Turiel or K'thriss
Slot 2 - Regis or Talin
Slot 3 - Spurt
Slot 4 - Baeloth
Slot 5 - Briv (toughest tank)
Slot 6 - Krull
Slot 7 - Freely
Slot 8 - Grimm (swap to Baeloth after debuffing)
Slot 9 - Aila/Lazaapz (I swap to Lazaapz after debuffing)
Slot 10 -
Slot 11 - Avern
Slot 12 - Zorbu

[Duke Igthorn]

Who is best is usually different for each person. Gear on the people in that slot as well as gear on the people they synergize with is different for each player.

[ptor]

Celeste has one thing that's unique to her: her ultimate will heal 100% the whole party (every 45s at lowest cooldown); no other healer has such power.
The closest you can get is Briv in Phlo spec with Mirt's Perk Up!, which is dependent on him being 1.attacked, 2.damaged and 3.not incapacitated.
1 is nullified by DoT such as "lose x% of health" or stage events such as falling rocks,
2. is nullified by invulnerability such as Baeloth's resurrection,
3. is nullified by web, stun, and such other statuses

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

Originally posted by ptor:

Celeste has one thing that's unique to her: her ultimate will heal 100% the whole party (every 45s at lowest cooldown); no other healer has such power.

Thanks for the reminder, I completely forgot about that one :o

[Namarus]

Originally posted by Noeh23:

Best for what? Korth has totally different applications that Celeste. Korth speeds up attacks considerably so I did find use for him in certain situations. As a pure DPS buffer he is not as good.

For the time gate it depends who esle you have for choice

Celeste is by far not "the best" in the slot but it kind of depends on gear.
All variables being the same I would say Regis/Talin are the must haves from that slot. Donaar has his uses (armored enemies and pushback and AoE attack)
Krydle is kind of meh
Celeste you just have and the healing she provides did help a lot when I started the game

My Korth is a good e6 better at buffing Zorbu than Regis. Talin does not come close either.

[Noeh23]

Originally posted by Namarus:

My Korth is a good e6 better at buffing Zorbu than Regis. Talin does not come close either.

Care to share ilvls?
Korth's buff is super reliant on debuff application so it's rare to have him apply a consistent useful buff.

[Konachibi]

Korth's shield bonus can come in very useful on some adventure variants (e.g/ A Saurial's Resolve, Korth's shield helps to survive the bosses meteor attack)

Generally I find it's better to not get reliant on 'dream team' formations as a lot of variants, and some adventures, and patrons, simply won't allow you to use a 'perfect' team. Unlocking all the champions should always be a basic goal, as all of them have some kind of use or application somewhere.

[Namarus]

Originally posted by Noeh23:

Originally posted by Namarus:

My Korth is a good e6 better at buffing Zorbu than Regis. Talin does not come close either.

Care to share ilvls?
Korth's buff is super reliant on debuff application so it's rare to have him apply a consistent useful buff.

Korth 80
Regis 38

[Noeh23]

Originally posted by Namarus:

Originally posted by Noeh23:

Care to share ilvls?
Korth's buff is super reliant on debuff application so it's rare to have him apply a consistent useful buff.

Korth 80
Regis 38

Well then either I am using Korth extremely wrong or you are using Regis/Talin wrong.
I am not able to get Korth even slightly better than Regis/Talin even if I try

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

I got a 3-shiny/gold Regis at ilvl 200ish.
Kort comes quite close to same buff (not even full epic, ilvl 20-ish)

Having him beat Regis with Zorbu as DPS, I can imagen. But beating Talin (e11/12 difference) doesn't seem to be in there for me either.

I wonder the same as Noeh does, what do you do different?

[OldGamer]

I get nowhere near that with Talin.