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tasso1985 Apr 4, 2024 @ 12:43pm
New patron's requirements
The requirements to unlock Elminster is, among other things, to have completed 250 variants; but does this count only "base" variants, or also the other patrons' variants?
Originally posted by Sapwn:
Originally posted by tasso1985:
Originally posted by taniwhat:
Go to the quests or achievements panel. Which, I will concede, is a PITA to navigate. It should be there.
Other than that, I'm not a lot of help, I was at 98 champions and had 88k gems with the other requirements unlocked to the Elminster unlock was easy. Getting his favour, problematic for me because I can crack 850 - sometimes, maybe.

Do you mean this screen[imgur.com]?

If so, I have a long way to go...

Still, I do not understand if the "/382" variants are only "base" variants, or include all patrons' variants.

this refers to base variants :),

every patron has about 390 variants on their own
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tasso1985 Apr 4, 2024 @ 1:08pm 
And, I would like to add, where can you see how many variants do you still need to do?
taniwhat Apr 5, 2024 @ 12:51am 
Go to the quests or achievements panel. Which, I will concede, is a PITA to navigate. It should be there.
Other than that, I'm not a lot of help, I was at 98 champions and had 88k gems with the other requirements unlocked to the Elminster unlock was easy. Getting his favour, problematic for me because I can crack 850 - sometimes, maybe.
Flooz Apr 5, 2024 @ 2:10am 
I was 1 time piece short for my 100th champion so I burned my gems on chests and will put Elminster on hold.

If the 3rd quest for Gale is any indication, right now, I won't make much of a dent in the Elminster variations.
kab_reg Apr 5, 2024 @ 2:28am 
Well, if you CAN hit z850 with his team, at least you will be able to unlock his time gate piece and modron chest.
Flooz Apr 5, 2024 @ 2:39am 
Originally posted by kab_reg:
Well, if you CAN hit z850 with his team, at least you will be able to unlock his time gate piece and modron chest.

850 is possible. I guess I'll start saving again.
kab_reg Apr 5, 2024 @ 2:44am 
It will take some dedication to parse suitable variants, but it should be possible in a week or two.
tasso1985 Apr 5, 2024 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by taniwhat:
Go to the quests or achievements panel. Which, I will concede, is a PITA to navigate. It should be there.
Other than that, I'm not a lot of help, I was at 98 champions and had 88k gems with the other requirements unlocked to the Elminster unlock was easy. Getting his favour, problematic for me because I can crack 850 - sometimes, maybe.

Do you mean this screen[imgur.com]?

If so, I have a long way to go...

Still, I do not understand if the "/382" variants are only "base" variants, or include all patrons' variants.
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
Sapwn Apr 5, 2024 @ 12:31pm 
Originally posted by tasso1985:
Originally posted by taniwhat:
Go to the quests or achievements panel. Which, I will concede, is a PITA to navigate. It should be there.
Other than that, I'm not a lot of help, I was at 98 champions and had 88k gems with the other requirements unlocked to the Elminster unlock was easy. Getting his favour, problematic for me because I can crack 850 - sometimes, maybe.

Do you mean this screen[imgur.com]?

If so, I have a long way to go...

Still, I do not understand if the "/382" variants are only "base" variants, or include all patrons' variants.

this refers to base variants :),

every patron has about 390 variants on their own
taniwhat Apr 5, 2024 @ 5:45pm 
850 is possible for me on a good day, that said I'm still trying to crack anything I can actually complete that isn't a free play here. That isn't lack of champions, his limits don't really hurt me that badly compared to my normal A team (Relatively new player) - it's just that ~850 is possible on a good day, but the adventures I've tried to complete so far the extra constraints are meaning I'm hitting the wall short of 800. Not that many attempted so far admitted because I'm still busy grinding season champs.

As was said above, it's worth trying to get enough favour for the regular time gate piece and the chest.

If someone comes up with a list of the 10 easiest z825 Elminster variants, that'd be appreciated :).
kab_reg Apr 5, 2024 @ 6:21pm 
Not necessarily the easiest ones, but here are some relatively easy variants from ToA and Dragon Heist campaigns:

Premature Betrayal
Flying Monkey Skulls of Doom
Market Fluctuations
Lobsterfolk Assault
Double Vision
Wisdom Check
The Newcomers of Notoriety
The Gargoyle's Apprentice
Home Not So Alone
Spined Nuisances
Flame(skull) War
Displaced Anger
taniwhat Apr 5, 2024 @ 10:50pm 
My thanks
Flooz Apr 7, 2024 @ 6:40am 
I did Mad Cow Disease in the Grand Tour. I used 4 of the Rivals team combined with Valentine, Strongheart, Lae'zel, Dark Urge and Xerophon and with some Selise stance swapping, got to 825 rather easily.

Now I just need to find all quests there that have no special limitations and repeat it. Influence will be slow but it does bring plenty of currency for Elminster chests.
Last edited by Flooz; Apr 7, 2024 @ 6:47am
kab_reg Apr 7, 2024 @ 7:49am 
Start with the ones I listed above. I will add more tomorrow.

Some recommended variants from Sword Coast campaign:
The Contagious Curse
Pure Energy - if your tank is good enough
Maddening
Were-verpowered
A Persistent Buzzing
Beast Mode
Low Initiative
March of the Undead - if your tank is good enough
No Time To Rest
Invisible Shadows - if your tank is good enough
Constant Banditry
Easily Distracted
Rude Welcome
Wet Feet
Hatchlings Underfoot - ignore it if your attack rate is low
Don't Look Up!
Friends of the Forest
Werewolves in the Mist
Poor Fortune
Relentless Misfortune - if your tank is good enough
Shorty's Day Off - if you don't need shorties
Seeds of Corruption
The Strahd Squad - if your tank is good enough
Shadowfell Stalwarts - if your crowd control does not suck too much
Screams of the Dead
Tanking Expectations - check whom you get as your tank
Dino Nightmare
Demons Here, Demons There - if your attack rate is good enough
Fungal Excitation - if your tank is good enough
Head over Heals - check whom you get as your healer
Speed Demons
A Demi-god's Defender - if your DPS has magic attack
Last edited by kab_reg; Apr 7, 2024 @ 8:17am
Flowreen Apr 7, 2024 @ 9:30am 
Originally posted by kab_reg:
It will take some dedication to parse suitable variants, but it should be possible in a week or two.
If the formula for clearing a zone with minion click damage only is "7.6 x your Gold Find e number"
Then to clear all level 825 Elminster variants would require us to get
825 / 7.6 = e108.5 gold find
So for us not to worry about the variants restrictions, we would require just to farm free play favor with our best gold farm team until we get to that value.
Is this correct kab_reg ?
Last edited by Flowreen; Apr 7, 2024 @ 9:31am
Flooz Apr 7, 2024 @ 9:57am 
Originally posted by kab_reg:
Start with the ones I listed above. I will add more tomorrow.

I moved from the Grand Tour to these quests. Having one champion more makes it easier to reach the required dps and I can field Nahara who, together with Virgil and three other Rivals, speeds things up a bit.
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