Good 5th slot buffer for mirt

[JC]

Any thoughts on this slot? I have pwent, and calliope, but i want someone else that would work, But the whole patron thing is keeping valentine from being used, so who else would be a nice one for this slot? I wouldn't mind another slot 1 and 11 buffer as well.

[hidareju]

Certanty Dran is not terrible and can boost stats in the row in front of her to qualify for some buffs.
Viconia is an option for some teams.

Slot 1 Orkira is good for mirt.
Slot 11 Nova, Strongheart is not bad either. Warden is an option since the season boosted his power.

[kab_reg]

Nova is the best buffer in Slot 11. Dragonbait is also passable.

Orkira is a debuffer, not a buffer. If you need a buffer, use either Turiel or Voronika (for evil champions).

All buffer options in Slot 5 are relatively mediocre. Apart from Certainty, check Viconia, Pwent and Qillek.

[JC]

I've been using dragon bait, but running more than one group trying to get to the complete spot on some that i can't use who i'd like. that's nice about qillek too, he also triggers for dungeon master. I've had my eye on Nova as well.

Viciona is coming in a couple weeks so that would work, i forgot she was in slot 5, can't wait for that. I've been saving those bounties so i can get a bunch of chests for both.

Basically i'm grinding Mirt favor as i'm almost starting to unlock the second chest perk, so i'm running 3 groups and variants and some i just need a bit more power in that slot. It will be nice to get to area 900-1k, and get 18-20 chests on time gates should really help a bunch when getting new characters. I can also start going back to a couple of my favs that i did when i could only get to 200 or 300.

[kab_reg]

About getting influence for patrons: it's better to do several long runs with moderate restrictions than a lot of short runs because influence gains are exponential. Check some old topics on reddit and Steam forum, they had lists of such recommended variants. Unfortunately, I lost my collection of bookmarks for useful IC topics a few days ago in a system crash :(.

[WhatZit]

Viconia is especially useful for variants that disable firebreath potions, as her Animate Dead is a feeble replacement for those, but it works.

Also, her Yesterday's Undead is great for quickly knocking out patron challenges in places like Mad Wizard that have every other thing you need except undead.

Plus, any other champ who gives bonuses when undead are around (e,g, favoured foes) will like her too.

So, for overall utility, Viconia would be my pick. However, you can get her for free if you wait until the end of December, because that's when her event rolls around.

[kab_reg]

Also keep in mind that her buffing is relatively weak. You can potentially get more mileage out of other champions.

A quick and dirty check in my own roster: Viconia (ilvl 596, Holy Power spec) - 1.9e12; Qillek (ilvl 304, Empowered Blessing spec) - 5.5e13; Pwent (ilvl 369, Recruiting Drive spec) - 6.6e14; Certainty (ilvl 410, Smooth Negotiators spec) - 2.3e17.

[JC]

Originally posted by kab_reg:

About getting influence for patrons: it's better to do several long runs with moderate restrictions than a lot of short runs because influence gains are exponential. Check some old topics on reddit and Steam forum, they had lists of such recommended variants. Unfortunately, I lost my collection of bookmarks for useful IC topics a few days ago in a system crash :(.

are you talking about free plays? because this is something i have been wondering about. Up till now i've basically just been doing the free play stuff to complete the quick little quests. But now with 4 groups and better combos i can start doing some deeper favor pushes, and it seams like i still get they favor to help add other bonuses. It seams like the difference is, you also get patron bonus, but you don't get gems.

I figure there is a better wya to do these, along with gem farming which is sorta where i'm getting to now.


as for running multiple patrons I'm just trying to get the reward from variants a bit right now to get to that time gate chest bonus, and then grab some so i can unlock modrons on the other 3.. Those are my short term goals.

[kab_reg]

No, I meant patron variants. You cannot get patron influence from freeplay patron runs.

[JC]

Originally posted by kab_reg:

No, I meant patron variants. You cannot get patron influence from freeplay patron runs.

How do you get more influence? It feels like i'm running out of the variants, I realized i didn't unlock a bunch of the first one and thought some would pop up. I must of abandoned it a long time ago, but nope. What else get's me influence? I haven't even hit the time gate chest one which is T7 and they go up to T11.

[Derpykat5]

Originally posted by JC:

Originally posted by kab_reg:

No, I meant patron variants. You cannot get patron influence from freeplay patron runs.

How do you get more influence? It feels like i'm running out of the variants, I realized i didn't unlock a bunch of the first one and thought some would pop up. I must of abandoned it a long time ago, but nope. What else get's me influence? I haven't even hit the time gate chest one which is T7 and they go up to T11.

Completing variants with a higher goal rewards exponentially more influence. In order to complete a patron variant you first need to do the non-patron version of that variant.

[kab_reg]

Only from patron variants, and early variants aren't particularly useful for that. Check z600+ variants in Icewind Dale and later campaigns (excluding FW).

[LostSoul]

Originally posted by kab_reg:

Only from patron variants, and early variants aren't particularly useful for that. Check z600+ variants in Icewind Dale and later campaigns (excluding FW).

And Witchlight, though any variant that has simple restriction/effect and has a high area completion requirement is a good way to accrue patron influence (Witchlight just has the largest number of them). Some of those have area-completion requirements high enough to unlock most of the major patron shop items all by themselves while having relatively trivial variant effects that can be done quite easily by new(er) players. And a few of them will fully unlock the entire store, though you'll likely have already done so long before being capable of beating those particular variants.

[kab_reg]

Having Dragonbait with a decent ilvl trivializes some variants with annoying stunning effects. His ultimate attack cures stun and makes champions temporarily immune to stunning.

[taniwhat]

Comment, and I may have misread the question earlier.

You can't do the patron variant of an adventure without having done the base variant. That's if you are wondering why you don't have many open patron quests.

Got caught by that myself.

[JC]

I've run missions all the way up to the newest ones.. Unless i'm missing something. I skipped the lower variants and did basically everything up to area 600 and some are higher.. I have very few left. Maybe there are more in Xaris or the newest one?