Birdsong as a Damage Dealer

[Clork]

I'm not sure if this is extremely ineffective or not but I've seen huge increases in DPS when using Birdsong as a damage dealer. I was lucky enough to get purple bracers in my first gold chest along with a blue lute and green bell. Just replacing Makos immediately increased DPS but when replacing minsc as a Damage Dealer I got great results. So much so that Birdsong almost completely outclasses Hitch in damage. The boost from Hitch's Charisma trait goes a long way and the Neutral specialisation seems far more beneficial than a good one with minsc and Hitch as my main damage dealer. Is this a bad move or are other people having the same results?

[RyuSora]

Best dps at this moment is asharra, no other champions does what asharra does.

[Psylisa]

Първоначално публикувано от RyuSora:

Best dps at this moment is asharra, no other champions does what asharra does.

Pretty sure it's Jamilah. On Love Potion, I was able to clear 275 when I geared Birdsong (she's naked in the one below). Don't think Asharra is going to even come close to that.

https://imgur.com/g6YFldp

[Smile ( - : ]<it helps>[ ; - )]

My last free play on grand revel, i was walled on level 219, Birdsong could keep me at level 219, Jamilah could not, the trick was getting the killing started with Birdsong, i swapped in Tyril used all my ultimate attacks except for Asharra, swapped back to Barrowin, and left it going for 2 hours, so i need Jamilah to push to the wall, but once at the wall Birdsong is better + gold bonus from Stoki.
Birdsong gear blue,green,green,blue,green,green.
Jamilah gear blue,purple,blue,blue,purple,purple. Asharra has blue on bond.

So for me Bridsong is useful, as more than a buffer

[Rottenc]

DPS test:
9 slot formation (diamond)
same run, no Ults, no bench-swap, only plain DPS, skill cap (no over-level), no potions

1. Birdsong (rare dps, epic dps, rare to all, rare to song)
kill 190 (favored undead), stop at 193 (not-favored beasts)
http://prntscr.com/ihdla4
boss fight start with 0 stacks

2. Asharra (epic dps, rare dps, rare to all, epic to bond)
can't kill 190 (3 times)
http://prntscr.com/ihdphv

3. Jamilah (rare dps, epic dps, epic to all, epic to reckl)
can't kill 190 (4 times, 2 with Minsk, 2 with Asharra as buffer)
http://prntscr.com/ihdvjg

4. Hitch (epic dps, epic dps, shiny rare to all, epic charisma)
kill 190 (favored undead, good song), stop at 193
http://prntscr.com/ihe6pf

5. Makos (rare dps, epic dps, epic to all, rare to dark bless)
can't kill even 185
http://prntscr.com/iheilw

6. Not proper spec:
- Arkhan and Krond can't beat 185, but song spec inproper
- Drizt can't beat 185. Regis and Brunor in party, Asharra not (not tested elf bond, later test and Drizt gain elf bond)
- Birdsong with good spec damage more that 50% on zone 190 (http://prntscr.com/iheo4r)

Conclusions:
1. Birdsong and Hitch best for me. Bird can be better with gear
2. Barrowin better that Tyril even with fast-hitters (http://prntscr.com/iheqyq)

[SMinor]

Първоначално публикувано от RyuSora:

Best dps at this moment is asharra, no other champions does what asharra does.

What's a good Asharra formation? I haven't been able to get mine to outdamage Jamilah with what I've been trying.

[Spin-Man]

Първоначално публикувано от SMinor:

Първоначално публикувано от RyuSora:

Best dps at this moment is asharra, no other champions does what asharra does.

What's a good Asharra formation? I haven't been able to get mine to outdamage Jamilah with what I've been trying.

Most people can't. Asharra is not as good as Jamila or Hitch unless she has better gear than both of them.

If you want to make good use of Asharra, you need to use Barrowin, which means Ultimates will be worthless. In Grand Tour adventures, try this (back to front):

Tyril
Birdsong* Hitch
Dhadius Regis** Barrowin
Bruenor Asharra
Nayeli

*Anyone can go here. Test with Makos/Drizzt/Birdsong/Stoki/Minsc to see who helps the most. Dark Luck is useless with Barrowin, so chose Blessing to try Makos out.
**Celeste is better for many people because of gear, but look at your damage numbers. If Regis makes Asharra hit harder, go for it.

[Azuwi]

i just got birdsong is there any better dps in game then birdsong? right now birdsong is my best dps

[Derpykat5]

Първоначално публикувано от Azuwi:

i just got birdsong is there any better dps in game then birdsong? right now birdsong is my best dps

Oh there are loads, but it was probably better to ask this question in a new thread instead of necroing a 5 year old one only tangentially related.

[kab_reg]

Birdsong is indeed one of the best DPS. However, Artemis is better.

You can check an example of an endgame party for Birdsong here: https://steamcommunity.com/app/627690/discussions/0/3830919351652784322/?ctp=2

[Azuwi]

okay thanks welll i figure it was better to use a related topic then create a new one but yea ill check it out , btw is artemis a free champion or from time gate? and which slot he in? i like birdsong tho but idk what is the best setup for him based on my current champions i got.

edit:
do u mean the screenshot by hecate , is it with birdsong? sorry some is skins i think so cant tell what champions its used . maybe can simplify .

[Hecate]

https://ic.byteglow.com/f/2j_316a581a417a67153e79

[Captain_Narol]

[quote=Azuwi;5643629075666349460
do u mean the screenshot by hecate , is it with birdsong? sorry some is skins i think so cant tell what champions its used . maybe can simplify . [/quote]

In the screenshot by Hecate, Birdsong is the one at the bottom of the third raw (the one with 4 people in it)

[Azuwi]

Първоначално публикувано от Hecate:

https://ic.byteglow.com/f/2j_316a581a417a67153e79

thanks hecate.