Clicking - a useless upgrade?

[Vincere]

So I'm sitting here, and I've come to the conclusion that the clicking upgrade is nothing but a gold sink. Even with an autoclicker, I'm not even REMOTELY close to reaching even a percent of my overall DPS... Am I doing something wrong, or is clicking in this game purely to pause the mobs - making the "Click Damage" upgrade an absolute waste of gold?

[Black Orpheus]

I think some people farm gems by only making clicker upgrades and going as far as they can until they can't kill bosses in a couple hits, then they reset and go again. This is a bit faster than just letting your champions do the work.

[Vincere]

Hmm. I guess that is possible, if you completely ignore favor gain. Thank you - that actually made sense. However, Game-developer-wise, clicking is still useless imo :P

[SPYcorp]

Clicking (clicker upgrade) is useful to clear early stages faster. It doesnt do anything in the late game.

[edit] Its intented clicking does nothing in late game - idle game vs. (auto) clicker game

[Illimitus]

I consider using autoclickers dishonest.

I support any method to punish autoclickers, to include click damage throttling, but to include algorithms that detect super-human clicking and terminate the game session.

[Psylisa]

Originally posted by Zoot:

Clicking is useless.


Using auto clickers is a matter of preference in a single player game. CNE knows they are being used and pretty much does not care other than to state that you can not expect support if you break something hacking game values.
There is no cheating in a single player game and nothing any other player does in the game affects your game in any way.

That being said the only time clicking is viable once you are established in game is when you need to use firebreath potions to get over a game induced wall. You can use an auto clicker if you like, it's nobody's business but yours.

To say clicking is useless late game means you aren't late game.

I have enough favor to where clicking currently outscales any type of damage my champions can dish out.

Clicking is useful in three parts of this game:
1) At the beginning, when you have little gear/heroes. Also for distractions.
2) When you want to do gem runs in order to kill mobs as quickly as possible.
3) When you have tons of favor because click damage scales more than capped heroes.

[The Nothing Man]

clicking esp birds and in the start is far faster until round lvl 50-60
then its .. pointless other than to group mobs for AOE dmg (each click stalls them for a sec)

then fiyaaa

works well on bosses and early game and for the birds and hidden stuffs, is it worth it.. sorta.

[The Nothing Man]

huh?
this makes almost no sense

why speed hack? that offsets friggen everything

and if you cant get 1% just quit..
these arent the games for ye

chests dont even help at walls, most use em at the start to skip ahead to 100 ish
thats on kong anyway
some claim wait, for the wall
but most say no.. use early use often.
chests later might net you 1-4 lvls of a high lvl character depending on what you get in the chests

but that wont be enough to break walls.

[Verethragna]

Originally posted by Psylisa:

Originally posted by Zoot:

Clicking is useless.


Using auto clickers is a matter of preference in a single player game. CNE knows they are being used and pretty much does not care other than to state that you can not expect support if you break something hacking game values.
There is no cheating in a single player game and nothing any other player does in the game affects your game in any way.

That being said the only time clicking is viable once you are established in game is when you need to use firebreath potions to get over a game induced wall. You can use an auto clicker if you like, it's nobody's business but yours.

To say clicking is useless late game means you aren't late game.

I have enough favor to where clicking currently outscales any type of damage my champions can dish out.

Clicking is useful in three parts of this game:
1) At the beginning, when you have little gear/heroes. Also for distractions.
2) When you want to do gem runs in order to kill mobs as quickly as possible.
3) When you have tons of favor because click damage scales more than capped heroes.

Does it really? I honestly haven't even bothered to try lol I might do give it a try my next run and see what the fuss is all about with the click scaling late game.

[The Nothing Man]

Originally posted by Zoot:

because my walls are gear walls and chests give the chance to gear up.

And I'm quite happy playing my game my way thanks

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1268438032

oh holy cow no wonder.. you are late gamer
I see now, makes sense and hope you forgive my brash post

[A1ice[useless] TV]

First time Heroes better than Clicks
But after some time clicks deals more damage

[LadySky89]

Originally posted by Psylisa:

Originally posted by Zoot:

Clicking is useless.


Using auto clickers is a matter of preference in a single player game. CNE knows they are being used and pretty much does not care other than to state that you can not expect support if you break something hacking game values.
There is no cheating in a single player game and nothing any other player does in the game affects your game in any way.

That being said the only time clicking is viable once you are established in game is when you need to use firebreath potions to get over a game induced wall. You can use an auto clicker if you like, it's nobody's business but yours.

To say clicking is useless late game means you aren't late game.

I have enough favor to where clicking currently outscales any type of damage my champions can dish out.

Clicking is useful in three parts of this game:
1) At the beginning, when you have little gear/heroes. Also for distractions.
2) When you want to do gem runs in order to kill mobs as quickly as possible.
3) When you have tons of favor because click damage scales more than capped heroes.

Clicking IS useless, unless you actually found an auto-clicker that works and use it.
Don't tell me a potion of firebreath lasting 2 minutes can do any difference at all on a pack of 30 mobs stacked over each other, where you just can't dig with your cursor, or select a fixed target to attack, and will only get to half mobs down and maybe manage to kill 4-5.

Originally posted by Illimitus:

I consider using autoclickers dishonest.

I support any method to punish autoclickers, to include click damage throttling, but to include algorithms that detect super-human clicking and terminate the game session.

Auto-clicking is not a cheat, specially not in this game, since the usefulness of clicks is time bound by potions.
Then yet, if your arm is augmented like Adam Jensen's one, be welcome to click whole day long with it and your mouse.

[Psylisa]

Originally posted by LadySky89:

Clicking IS useless, unless you actually found an auto-clicker that works and use it.
Don't tell me a potion of firebreath lasting 2 minutes can do any difference at all on a pack of 30 mobs stacked over each other, where you just can't dig with your cursor, or select a fixed target to attack, and will only get to half mobs down and maybe manage to kill 4-5.

No, what I'm saying is that with enough favor, clicking will outscale your hero damage, because hero damage has a soft cap in terms of scaling. Clicking does not. I acquired e30 favor in the event, and clicking could take me to 270 or so, one-shotting all mobs. No autoclicker is needed. Champions could not take me that far. Therefore, Clicking > Champions.

Furthermore, you don't use a Firebreath on a stack of mobs. You do it BEFORE they stack up so you can focus target and kill. If need be, restart your stage prior to using the potion. There's no penalty for doing so.

That's what I mean by clicking isn't useless. There's just times when it has a use in the game, which I outlined.

[LadySky89]

Originally posted by Psylisa:

Originally posted by LadySky89:

Clicking IS useless, unless you actually found an auto-clicker that works and use it.
Don't tell me a potion of firebreath lasting 2 minutes can do any difference at all on a pack of 30 mobs stacked over each other, where you just can't dig with your cursor, or select a fixed target to attack, and will only get to half mobs down and maybe manage to kill 4-5.

No, what I'm saying is that with enough favor, clicking will outscale your hero damage, because hero damage has a soft cap in terms of scaling. Clicking does not. I acquired e30 favor in the event, and clicking could take me to 270 or so, one-shotting all mobs. No autoclicker is needed. Champions could not take me that far. Therefore, Clicking > Champions.

Furthermore, you don't use a Firebreath on a stack of mobs. You do it BEFORE they stack up so you can focus target and kill. If need be, restart your stage prior to using the potion. There's no penalty for doing so.

That's what I mean by clicking isn't useless. There's just times when it has a use in the game, which I outlined.

Even restarting the stage (and even by using an auto-clicker honestly) those potions are limited... 2 minutes one helps for 1 zone and slightly more, 4 minutes one helps for 3-4 zones depending on the kind of zones (mobs to kill, items or objects to destroy). It's not such a big deal, and if you mistake some clicks, you won't go any further at all.

As about clicking bringing you further than champions, I never considered this, so you bumped the click damage level? Or how did you obtain this? I thought its cost increased much more than the output damage it provided...

PS: no idea how you can possibly gather e30 favor... I guess at my stage of the game clicking will never be that useful, since I struggled to gather 4.11e6...

[Vincere]

Originally posted by Illimitus:

I consider using autoclickers dishonest.

I support any method to punish autoclickers, to include click damage throttling, but to include algorithms that detect super-human clicking and terminate the game session.

That has utterly nothing to do with what this thread is about. So please. Stay on topic.

[Vincere]

Originally posted by Zoot:

lots of post deletion going on with no clarification why. If there are issues and subjects you don't want us to discuss again you should say why you have deleted posts so that we can avoid repetition.

I'm not the one deleting it, just so you know. Only mods can do that.