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which champion to unlock with time gates?
i dont know theres too many
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Tyrendian89 Feb 25, 2022 @ 2:30pm 
depends pretty much entirely on who you've got already... but a few key points:
go for Split the Party 1 and later 2 (so try to get a second and then third champ for each slot)
go for speed champs, and generally powerful champs (this is useful: https://www.reddit.com/r/idlechampions/comments/oof9xf/champion_tier_rankings_by_slot_july_2021/ )
amrcow Feb 25, 2022 @ 2:53pm 
The following image would be my recommendation. Start from the top and getting each champion in each row. Champions that are Evergreens or Patron-purchased would not be considerations for time gates. The first 5 to consider would be Baeloth, Avren, Omin, Hew Maan, and Widdle.

https://ibb.co/6PMxhqp
kab_reg Feb 25, 2022 @ 4:54pm 
Minor note: Black Viper should be upgraded to Obsolete due to her niche usefulness for gem farming. Artemis should probably be moved to Alternate Power. He is perfectly usable outside of Click Debuff.
Last edited by kab_reg; Feb 25, 2022 @ 5:01pm
0k Feb 25, 2022 @ 7:23pm 
Shandie seems more useful to a newer player than I think this chart gives her credit for. That speed boost is huge, especially without consumable use.

And I dunno if the chart is meant to be read this way, but I can't picture getting Evergreen set #3 that soon, before you've dipped your toes into grinding out patron variants. I'm still missing the newest Evergreen character and I'd long since moved to completing patron variants by the time I got Raya.
Gnome d'War Feb 25, 2022 @ 8:17pm 
How is Farideh a Str 18+ option?
kab_reg Feb 25, 2022 @ 8:37pm 
Due to the new Mehen's spec (IIRC, it is temporarily disabled due to unfixed bugs).
Last edited by kab_reg; Feb 25, 2022 @ 8:40pm
OldGamer Feb 26, 2022 @ 1:02am 
It's different for everybody but you do want to balance speed and power in your selections if you can.

But that also depends on how active you are, if you play all day and night you will want speed more than power. If you're more offline, you will want more power than speed.

For general names as I don't know whom you have in your roster.

Speed = Widdle, Deekin, Shandie, Hew, Briv, Sentry etc.
Power = Krull, Avren, Freely, Orkira, Zorbu etc...

But as Tyrendian89 said, you also want to look at what slot they are in for Split the Party 1 & 2. And if the trend continues you want to aim for four a piece in each slot. However, I don't think they are planning this year to expand the multi-parties system.
amrcow Feb 26, 2022 @ 8:37am 
All champion rankings have some subjective nature to them, so I don't expect my attempt at doing so in a chart to be 100% correct, but I'll try to defend my positions or explain some of its shortcomings.

Originally posted by kab_reg:
Minor note: Black Viper should be upgraded to Obsolete due to her niche usefulness for gem farming. Artemis should probably be moved to Alternate Power. He is perfectly usable outside of Click Debuff.

Black Viper's niche for gem farming can be overtaken by other multi-hitters that have a wider usage like Yorven, Farideh, Orisha, Ulkoria, or Asharra. The fact that Widdle will be part of most gem farms means that the slower attacking champions like Ulkoria or Asharra won't matter as they have their speeds equalized with someone like Shandie.

Artemis is one of the 4 main damage champions, but using him as the main DPS is a late-game tactic due to the roster and item level requirements needed to push him ahead of other damage dealers. I understand he probably should go in the Alternate Power section strictly for Orkira stacking purposes, but I made the decision to have the chart make a beeline to Split the Party #2. Omin and Gromma are more important for general power than Artemis under that constraint.

Originally posted by Ok:
Shandie seems more useful to a newer player than I think this chart gives her credit for. That speed boost is huge, especially without consumable use.

No disagreement that Shandie is awesome. She would be either the 6th, 7th, or 8th timegate chosen as per the chart. The combined push power gained by Omin/Baeloth/Avren is about +e35 (115 zones), which I feel is more important than +50% speed. Hew Maan can net close to x2 quest reward drops ungeared, which should be faster than Shandie's +50% speed. Getting +100% or higher spawn speed from Widdle is likely similar enough to Shandie's speed, but you can still use Widdle with Asharra, thus why I chose Widdle. Using Widdle to lower Asharra's attack speed is another form of speed gain, being early players do not have a vast array of firebreathing potions on-hand.

Originally posted by Ok:
And I dunno if the chart is meant to be read this way, but I can't picture getting Evergreen set #3 that soon

That one is a shortcoming of the chart. Once you hit Split the Party #2 you lose your dependence on needing to get Evergreen champions to qualify for future Split the Party situations (as there are currently none beyond Split the Party #2). The chart only points one direction, down, but in reality Reya and Xerophon are side priorities that you can try for in parallel with the other champions. Reya should actually be doable by the time you hit that point in the chart (Asharra short-folk bond with Regis, Hew Maan, and Freely, adding Warden for sticky debuffs on bosses after zone 610+). Xerophon on the other hand is someone you tackle once you have a level 10+ Modest Core/Level 13+ Fast Core and some other forms of power in your toolkit. This may change and become easier once the softcap is raised, but we aren't there yet. Anyhow, being those 2 Evergreen champions are effectively freefloating entities, I placed them at the earliest point I thought they were possible, even if they are not entirely feasible by that point by the populous.

Originally posted by author:
How is Farideh a Str 18+ option?

Mehen will soon gain a specialization that allows him to bring in Farideh and Havilar to variants they do not qualify for naturally. This will allow Mehen to pull in Farideh, which gives an option that is superior to Jamilah or Arkhan for Might Makes Right (Zariel).
Last edited by amrcow; Feb 26, 2022 @ 8:40am
kab_reg Feb 26, 2022 @ 8:59am 
How many months will it take for new players to start using Asharra and Ulkoria mostly as gem farmers, and not as a part of one of their main teams?

Artemis does not have to be ahead of other main DPS to become usable, just on par with them. Roster requirements for that are pretty steep, but that cannot be said about ilvl requirements. In my case, with mean ilvl 50, he became approximately equal to Asharra with ilvl 500.
Last edited by kab_reg; Feb 26, 2022 @ 9:09am
amrcow Feb 26, 2022 @ 9:34am 
As far as the comment on Asharra/Ulkoria as multi-hitters used on Gem Farms, you can probably just ignore that I said that. I sidestepped in my mind that one would always have Shandie out, disqualifying Asharra. I also have a lack of experience with Black Viper (I just obtained her 3 days ago) so I don't know how she truly compares to Farideh/Orisha/Warden/etc.

Artemis is another one where my viewpoint could be skewed by my experience compared to others. My prime concern in the past couple months has been tackling patron variants, which tends to restrict some of Artemis' options by knocking out a sizable chunk of the roster. There have been a few patron variants where Artemis has been my go-to, but the majority have remained Asharra/Krond/Zorbu or some second-string DPS like Farideh. I won't disagree with Artemis being awesome, as he is, but I haven't seen him as a requirement to progress through the majority of the game as the DPS character.
kab_reg Feb 26, 2022 @ 10:18am 
Originally posted by amrcow:
I also have a lack of experience with Black Viper (I just obtained her 3 days ago) so I don't know how she truly compares to Farideh/Orisha/Warden/etc.
She is approximately on the same level (for gem farming) as any one of them due to her cooldown reducing effect, but this effect can also affect other multihitting champion(s). Unfortunately, that's the only real use for her. That's why I believe that her level of overall usefulness should be upgraded, but only by one level.
Last edited by kab_reg; Feb 26, 2022 @ 10:22am
Gnome d'War Feb 26, 2022 @ 10:34am 
Originally posted by amrcow:
I also have a lack of experience with Black Viper (I just obtained her 3 days ago) so I don't know how she truly compares to Farideh/Orisha/Warden/etc.

OG can educate you!
OldGamer Feb 26, 2022 @ 11:11am 
Certainly can!

BV is basically an "all in one" champion - she just doesn't do anything "great".

Like rogues? she's your DPS.
Like collecting stuff? she's your robber.
Like killing armoured bosses? she's your rogue.
Like attacking faster? She's your support.

She can also as Kab said affect champs around her.

Basically, she has a wrap sheet for a really good champion and this is why I hope for her re work soon. (collect your gems now)
Last edited by OldGamer; Feb 26, 2022 @ 11:12am
kab_reg Feb 26, 2022 @ 11:27am 
Originally posted by OldGamer:
She just doesn't do anything "great".
To put it mildly :(. With the exception of attack speed up effect.
Last edited by kab_reg; Feb 26, 2022 @ 11:29am
Noeh23 Feb 26, 2022 @ 12:55pm 
Originally posted by kab_reg:
Originally posted by OldGamer:
She just doesn't do anything "great".
To put it mildly :(. With the exception of attack speed up effect.
and even there it's kind of blah as Arkhan does it better with Usurp AND BV prevents you to slot Jim who is usually the one that you need speed for.
Uf if you are going for let's say a slow debuff application formation then indeed BV can get you to a 1s CD very easily.
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