Shiny chances - Gold vs. Silver

[Nero Chaos]

Are the chances equal for any droped item from gold and silver?
I mean, if that;s so, then
500 gems per gold = ~3 items (166 gems /1 item)
50 gems per silver = ~1 item
So, silver gives 3 times more items = 3 times more chances.
BUT, if gold drop have higher chance of shiny....

[Hecate]

The chances are even, it's on a item basis. So, yeah they're is more shinies per gem for evergreen on silver basis.

But gold chest had side benefits : bounty contracts (= tokens = event chests), epic blacksmith contracts, epic potions & feats, that can't drop in silver. And that make them far better in the long run.

[Noeh23]

if you are going purely for shinies then Silver Chests are the better option

[Phantom]

1/1000 chance of a shiny

no pity timer (ex. gold chests have a 12.5% chance for a purple and if 10 fail to then its 100% + 12.5% on that one)

Silver and Gold chests can ONLY give shinies to evergreen heros, and when you have them fully shiny you don't get potions of polish for additional ones

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

For shinies use silver chests.

But since they only give out evergreen shinies, you're better off spending gems on buying golden chests.
Without making it all advance mathmatics: Golden chests provide you with better long term profit.

[©ScorP™®☭]

Buy gold chest, spend blacksmith contracts on speed champ and farm silver chest and gems faster, and buy gold chest...
Shiny is cool, but blacksmith contracts more important (for me)

[Nero Chaos]

Originally posted by ©ScorP™®☭:

Buy gold chest, spend blacksmith contracts on speed champ and farm silver chest and gems faster, and buy gold chest...
Shiny is cool, but blacksmith contracts more important (for me)

yeah, I cam to this conclusion too: with chances on shiny this low I'd rather count on blacksmith contracts - slow but steady, and can be applied to any champion.

I thought I'll get to shiny all evergreens, but opening 800 silvers in a row and getting none shinys tells it' not an option.

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

800?
I've opened runs of 4000+ chests without a shiny.

Don't be too short sighted, gold chest provide better value also on non-blacksmith.

[GlobalGenocide]

Definitely sounds that gold chests are the better option since more ilvl's = more gems = more chests in every situation. Since there's no pity calculation it's especially so.

0.1% on each chest, no matter the quality.

On the side though I guess that means I should be saving every potion of polish until I get my evergreens to full shiny. I've used 4 already... rip. Ah wells the things you learn.

[Nero Chaos]

I was surprised and... disappointed, when used my first Polish potion. Assuming colossal rarity, I thought I can choose a champion at least. As it is, it's just useless.

Just like this:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/627690/discussions/0/3123802224161852384/
and its post #12.

[Hecate]

Originally posted by GlobalGenocide:

On the side though I guess that means I should be saving every potion of polish until I get my evergreens to full shiny. I've used 4 already... rip. Ah wells the things you learn.

In fact it is hard to answer that, in the long term, yes you'll take more benefits from hoarding potions, because you'll earn more shinies then. But you also delay benefits on short-mid terms (having less shinies until you reach the evergreen full shinies, matter of months if not years).

And you can't tell what is better because it depends on where you used potion will land, e.g. if some of them land on speed items, you'll then earn chests faster, complete full shiny on evergreen faster & get more blacksmith contracts. But shinies aren't game changing, especially on evergreen that'll have high ilvl anyway & you'ren't so utterly wrong to use them sooner, it's a matter of personal taste.

[Nero Chaos]

By the way...
How does Shiny apply?
I mean, I have item +150% to something, also some item level +20%, 170% total.
Shiny goes only on base 150, or on full 170 and will apply further to a next i.levels i'll get?

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

Shiny is a 1.5 multiplier over the whole item.

So if you have ilvl giving you +20% its 1.5*1.2=1.8

[Hecate]

+50% efficiency on the base formula.
If the item is at 100% base, with 0,4% incrase by level, shiny will be at 150+0,6%./lvl above 1
If the item is at 275% base, with 1,1% increase by level, shiny will be at 412,5+1,65%/lvl above 1

[Nero Chaos]

in short, ilevels also get +50%
thanks

[Hecate]

Yes !