Idle Champions of the Forgotten Realms

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The Nothing Man 2021 年 5 月 22 日 下午 3:27
Grumpy stacks just right?
Hellos
Just when I was thinking the last new character was bad.. on to mehen
So I have him in front with about 3/4ths of a party and his two debuffers
but the stacks arent steady

ive ran 22 times on standard and only gotten 150 areas with 40-60 stacks
anyone know a decent place and setup to get this "NO you're Grumpy" unlocked ?

ty
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OldGamer 2021 年 5 月 23 日 上午 3:24 
I think players just don't know how to use the new champs yet and thus are saying they're rubbish.

Mehen, is decent when you know what you're doing but is in that mid tier I would say as others buff harder or debuff harder.

Shaka, is fun to use and is alright - again you are more building around him rather than building a formation to put him in. But again (again?) he is mid tier and others do better for a lot less "work".
The Nothing Man 2021 年 5 月 23 日 上午 3:45 
well yes and no with shanka imo
esp with the PC gender removal happening in stores and such saying male and female is going to irk tons

but on his matter its a die roll.. and his positions mostly dampen progress but if you do get that nice roll....
also he was bugged and his event but meh imo he doesnt mix well.. but more to come

as for mehen he is new new
but the vast vet majority are already seeing how patron variants make him useless in those patron modes
so hopefully more tweaking idk
ive personally not liked the last 3-4 champs
just me idk
Noeh23 2021 年 5 月 23 日 上午 5:16 
As written above, Mehen is not a top tier regular support and whoever is saying he is useless in patron modes clearly does not understand how to use him.
Mehen is a great addition for STR limit variants and as he is eligible for all patrons I don't see how he would be considered useless. Far from it. As Red Shift mentioned Mehen actually helped me clear some variants that I was not able to complete before.
Evil Henchman 2021 年 5 月 23 日 上午 5:54 
if you take the +1 spec you will probably need his daughters eventually, without you have to micro a little unless you have familar on his Ult at least from my experience.
The Nothing Man 2021 年 5 月 23 日 下午 1:46 
still having no luck even with formations given
using ultimate and his .. half kids also
placing him all over.. 1-5
seems the only thing that helps is removing party members
also it seems the only time i get proper stacks is REALLY early on in runs.

but shrug

The Nothing Man 2021 年 5 月 24 日 下午 2:07 
@everyone
ty
the link with the picture is perfect.. doesnt say which skills but I know.
bottom line is this works really fast but short in mad wizard runs
only lasts until about area 250ish
as the dps isnt high but fast..
know have half the required in just 2 runs
ty!
VallejoM 2021 年 5 月 27 日 上午 8:21 
Just throw Mehen in with your speed team, and Farideh and Havilar if you want...stick a familiar on his ult and forget about it...I got the achievement in a couple of hours with no issues whatsoever.
The Nothing Man 2021 年 5 月 27 日 下午 2:33 
well its about not using him in the event being the key
also he only has a short window as if you hit the wall then its over
so using him in mad wizard runs i get about 150 lvls and 148 ish stacks.. so about 7 runs will do the trick

sadly
SuperTim 2021 年 5 月 29 日 上午 1:04 
I'm dropping Mehen the moment I get the achievement. Too much babysitting / micromanagement required.

The thing is, normally I'd say that such champions should be compensated by a great amount of power, but for me, even if Mehen get buffed to be as strong as 5x Zorbu, I'd still not be using it. Lol, even if he drops 1 green gem per minute regardless his stack size, I'd probably still skip him.
The Nothing Man 2021 年 5 月 29 日 上午 1:06 
same and .. well put
OldGamer 2021 年 5 月 29 日 上午 2:21 
Yeah Mehen needs to be reworked in my opinion:
a) More buff and it to be rolling from area to area (reset upon adventure)
b) either more stacks that are green to allow that buff, or reduce 1 a sec to 1 per area.
eg either 40 to 80 (say) being where he buffs the most or keep it 40-60 but you only get a grumpy stack per area and a minus if Mehen kills.
c) If havi and farideh kills it should increase the buff, not decrease the stacks which inturn stops his buff.
Noeh23 2021 年 5 月 29 日 上午 3:17 
引用自 OldGamer
Yeah Mehen needs to be reworked in my opinion:
a) More buff and it to be rolling from area to area (reset upon adventure)
b) either more stacks that are green to allow that buff, or reduce 1 a sec to 1 per area.
eg either 40 to 80 (say) being where he buffs the most or keep it 40-60 but you only get a grumpy stack per area and a minus if Mehen kills.
c) If havi and farideh kills it should increase the buff, not decrease the stacks which inturn stops his buff.
I kinda disagree.
I like the fact that you can position Mehen and depending on column you get additional stacks.
As he is support the stacks should start from column 2 not column 1. (This way you'd be capped at +4 in 5 column formations and if that for some reason would not be enough you still have the spec
My issue is that usually you end up with A LOT of stacks (even if you are just in the second column) unless Farideh is your main DPS. Thus I would suggest to actually add a spec that would enable him to cooperate with other heroes. Without using Havi or Fari the stack management is SUPER hard.
The current way of stack decrease for attacking or taking damage or killing is OK imho especially because it's % based The only thing I would change there is the taking damage. If you get overwhelmed (or even if there are just many mobs and Havi is tanking the decrease is just too much due to many attacks - I would trigger this decrease only once per X seconds.
Nero Chaos 2021 年 6 月 6 日 上午 11:02 
Mehen's Ultimate
Does it work as described?..
It says Grump-meter must go to 50 and kinda stay there, as stacks are changing 10 times slower.
But in my case It doesn't go to 50 at all, then I'm not sure if it slows down 10 times.
最後修改者:Nero Chaos; 2021 年 6 月 6 日 上午 11:06
Noeh23 2021 年 6 月 6 日 下午 12:30 
引用自 Nero Chaos
Mehen's Ultimate
Does it work as described?..
It says Grump-meter must go to 50 and kinda stay there, as stacks are changing 10 times slower.
But in my case It doesn't go to 50 at all, then I'm not sure if it slows down 10 times.
did you read the full description?
The Nothing Man 2021 年 6 月 6 日 下午 1:09 
@nero you never get TOOO many stacks? as that was my issue
using the image some awesome fan sent in.. worked a charm just had to do the run about 4-5 times 200 ish per run

I had to even pick the RIGHT tree not left which lowers his stacks just to keep him from going to high, as well as put de-buffers near him
EIDT: also dont forget his ultimate
最後修改者:The Nothing Man; 2021 年 6 月 6 日 下午 1:09
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