What to do first?

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

I was working on Hew Maan to 2401% and Melf to 2401% (in that order) but now I wonder if
So I oopsied and got my briv to 1.098% chance to jump another level.... (no more round 100% jump chance) T_T
My default farm run is currently 580 mad wizard (under 5 minutes)

Should I make Briv do a 9-jump first or still finish Hew/Melf?
What do you think should be prioritized (and why)?

[OldGamer]

Hew first

Pure reason is the meta is changing for MW and after getting Hew down to 1 or less enemy per level, you go to cursed farmer.

Whilst briv is nice, the jump animation slows down (ultimately) farms. (IMO)
So Briv is good for pushing (so what I mean is to start a push to get you past low levels) as he gets you there quicker. Whilst Hew and Melf & co are good for speed farms.

[Soteria]

I'd go with hew, but for different reasons. I don't agree that Briv slows down gem farm; I've gone from maybe 15-25k gems a day to 50k+ a day just by investing in Briv.

But I don't think going just over 4+ skip with Briv is a big deal. With, say, 3630 item levels, it takes about 116 jumps to get to area 570. That means with your percent on average you might have advanced 1 or 2 zones, and you'd have to be really unlucky to land on a boss level. If you're higher than quad skip, the odds are even lower, but I assume you stopped at quad.

Edit: those numbers are assuming a GE.

[Namarus]

I would not discount Briv. I have started to invest heavily into him after getting Hew Maan to 10 per kill. I almost always used a 15m speed pot when farming.

Before I started to invest in Briv the pot would end around level 340 or so. Now that pot lasts until level 445. The increase in speed with only a 20% chance to skip 3 levels is noticeable.

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

@ Soteria,
Yea I stopped at quad.
The numbers really show 1.1% chance but he ends up getting on boss levels a lot anyhow, no1 knows why

[Noeh23]

The security of non-boss levels is superior to anything I believe. I will soon be at quad skip so will be able to confirm my hypothesis.
I think getting Briv to jump +9 is a better option BUT it depends also on how fast you can do that. If it'd take ages then maybe doing Hew/Melf for their boost in the meantime is better.
For me +9 seems like something unachievable so you'll have to assess that.

[Soteria]

Originally posted by Coo Coo Pigeon:

@ Soteria,
Yea I stopped at quad.
The numbers really show 1.1% chance but he ends up getting on boss levels a lot anyhow, no1 knows why

Guess just odds, now that I do the math. You only have a 27.7% chance of never advancing a single level (0.989^116). In 25 skips, there's a 24% chance of advancing (1 - 0.989^25). So it's more likely than it at first appeared to me.

Thing is, getting to 9-skip requires an ilvl of 127,626. Without any gild, getting Hew to 1-kill requires an ilvl of 7290. So you'd hardly notice the difference of maxing him out first--134k ilvls vs 127k, and most people seem to think that going from 4 to 9 should be done all in 1 go, so you're not going to be improving your farm on the way.

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

getting 125k ilvls shouldnt take too long, should be doable in under 2 months.
Guess doing Hew first, Melf second, is a lot faster.

Math wise:
When I go from 2 kills per area to 1 kill it saves me a whooping 0.07 seconds on avarage (no briv in there) which on 580 area's is 40.6 seconds. (8.12 if taking Briv in to account)
Where getting Briv to 5 skipped would result in: (270/5*4) 216 seconds, having a clean profit of 54 seconds per run (not taking in to account a little less stack farm)

You seem to have to formula (gold dragon), can you 100% 5/6/7/8/9 for me, ilvl wise and tell me the numbers?

Reason I think its worth it:
2105 hew -> 7290 Hew = ~25000 worth of blacksmith to gain 8.12 seconds
3660 briv -> 6k? Briv = less worth of blacksmiths to gain 54 seconds profit.

[Soteria]

Sure--it roughly doubles every time. I'm just using https://ic.byteglow.com/speed , click the little lightning bolt to jump to the next even break point.
5: 7,626
6: 15,626
7: 31,626
8: 63,626
9: 127,626

And yeah, if you're willing to go for 5 skip instead of all the way to 9, and you're already at 2-kills Hew, it's probably more worth. Having quad skip (or very close) is pretty valuable, though, particularly for, say, idling to 1500. It's certainly true that the animation times give Hew diminishing returns. I'm at like 5-kills and still clear zones in less than a second. The appeal of dropping that number is mostly for pushing past 1000, to me.

[Phantom]

so the plan is 1 million gems
200 buys of 100 silver chests (slow and urgh)
400 opens of silver chests (urgh, nothing but urgh)

get a bunch of shiny and blacksmiths

dump the smiths

rinse lather repeat?

or do you do

20 buys of 100 gold chests
40 opens of gold chests

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

@Phantom

Gold chests have better ilvl value for event champs (also when excluding bounty)

[Namarus]

Originally posted by Old Man Gamer (OMG):

I say Nova. My favorite tank for progression, currently. With Sentry (still weird that this Warforged is a female), Aila and Nova, that trio boosts damage and makes a grand amount of boosted hp for the whole party.

I'm pretty sure that Briv is a better tank though. You can also drop a healer with him in the tank spot. That gives you a spot for an extra support.

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

If you pick Briv's heal, he heals over 100% of the damage he receives to him and the rest of the party.
With Briv's taunt, he usually is taking more damage than the rest of the party.

[Phantom]

Originally posted by Coo Coo Pigeon:

@Phantom

Gold chests have better ilvl value for event champs (also when excluding bounty)

yeah I wondered its just they have 10% of the shiny value, and landing a shiny on either of their buffs would be a massive increase

[Soteria]

That's true, but I haven't seen any evidence that shinies from gold/silvers can land on event chests. I have full gild on evergreens, and the few shinies I've seen since have been on evergreens.

[Phantom]

Originally posted by Soteria:

That's true, but I haven't seen any evidence that shinies from gold/silvers can land on event chests. I have full gild on evergreens, and the few shinies I've seen since have been on evergreens.

shiny potions