Why is the mad wizard the best place to farm gems?

[cybermastah]

I've seen people repeatedly refer to the mad wizard as being the go to spot for farming gems, but why is that?

[Soteria]

There are portals on a lot of levels that enemies spawn more quickly out of, so you can clear a lot of levels very quickly. Also there are a lot of fiends, and if you have Havilar, you can get double quest progress from fiends.

[cybermastah]

Ah, thanks. Unfortunately I don't have Havilar but seeing as I have all the hero units I wanted (Shandie, Sentry and Deekin, along with Zorbu, Aila and Torogar), I'll prioritize getting Havilar when I get some more time gate pieces (I haven't progressed along with getting everything gem related like most here probably have as I play this game very much on and off).

[Noeh23]

Originally posted by cybermastah:

Ah, thanks. Unfortunately I don't have Havilar but seeing as I have all the hero units I wanted (Shandie, Sentry and Deekin, along with Zorbu, Aila and Torogar), I'll prioritize getting Havilar when I get some more time gate pieces (I haven't progressed along with getting everything gem related like most here probably have as I play this game very much on and off).

If you really want speed dont forget about Melf and include Minsc for good measure.

Originally posted by Soteria:

There are portals on a lot of levels that enemies spawn more quickly out of, so you can clear a lot of levels very quickly. Also there are a lot of fiends, and if you have Havilar, you can get double quest progress from fiends.

Also, no armored mobs and only one level (14) with hit based mob.

[OldGamer]

Best farms:
Grand Tour: Mad wizard
Tomb: Templar's camp
Waterdeep: Attack on the Manor
Avernus: Tale Of Two Cities

As most answered the above. Minsc is minimal speed...is it even worth it? I usually stick freely in for more gold and favour whilst gem farming. Then again, could be wrong...

[Zrazzt]

unless your favour is low, and you're going really deep, do you even get favour gains? If you're gem farming, you're resetting at your click wall, which will be around 280 for e30ish favour

[OldGamer]

Originally posted by Zrazzt:

unless your favour is low, and you're going really deep, do you even get favour gains? If you're gem farming, you're resetting at your click wall, which will be around 280 for e30ish favour

Every little helps :) I seem to think anyway.
It's not any "visible" increase when I do deep farming runs but a little bonus each run adds up. Plus I find his speciality better even though yes Minsc can do his favoured enemies with feys on MW.

[Zrazzt]

Right, but if you're gem farming, gem farm, if you're pushing deep, push deep. Usually it's not the same formation for both.. unless you're actively switching when you hit the higher parts with your speed champs.

Just not effective to speed gem farm anywhere passed your click wall

[OldGamer]

Originally posted by Zrazzt:

Right, but if you're gem farming, gem farm, if you're pushing deep, push deep. Usually it's not the same formation for both.. unless you're actively switching when you hit the higher parts with your speed champs.

Just not effective to speed gem farm anywhere passed your click wall

Yeah so I didn't explain well.
1. Gem farm - speed champs basically 250ish?
2, At click wall, swap to a dps/favour formation - aka krull around 400 now
3. Proper Wall, (if I don't turn on potions here and properly farm), reset. 450ish

If I am speed gem farming (automation resetting)
I just have 6 familiars (5 on field plus one on click damage) and go up to level 30 and reset. I usually work this with my farming of patron currency (FP).
When I get more familiars, or when I want to use champs and go deeper with automation (up to 125 level currently). I use 1 on field, 1 on click dmg, 1 on deekin, 1 on shandie and 1 on sentry.
Basically I need more familiars to make a whole 9 formation work.

[©ScorP™®☭]

OldGamer, how much gems/1 hours you collect in automation reseting?

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

30?
Why not 80/130/180/230/280/330/380/430/480.... (where the 1-click kills stop)
That way you don't have to charge Shandie every time (wait for dash to start working)

Sounds more efficient (@scorp I'm going about 1.2k/h)

[©ScorP™®☭]

Coo Coo Pigeon, wow cool !. How you farm?

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

Modron automation Mad Wizard reset 380.
Melf - Speedy (401% effect)
Havilar - Dembo
Shandie - Dash
Deekin - Like a Boss
Sentry - Echo's will

Next to that I have Briv in front (only for when im not afk-farming, just leaving him in by default)
Binwin & Hitch for their multi attacks (to destroy wood)
9th slot I usually have Avren, but Jim would work better.

[©ScorP™®☭]

and tons of familiar haha. Its second offline party or active window?
Oh, i have only Melf and Deekin.

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

I got 2nd party slowly (offline) walking trough variants.

5 familiars fielded.

Depending on familiars available I'd use upgrade path as following:

- 1 click damage
- 3 field clickers
- 1 Melf
- 1 Deekin
- 5 field clickers (2 more)
Any spare familiars can be assigned to other champions.

[Kiesnowski]

Hmm I'll have to look at that. I have just been running each game to level 50 and resetting. Do you think you get more loot by extending the level for reset?