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OldGamer Aug 7, 2020 @ 6:15am
Black Viper's Red Gems
If Black Viper gets her red gem from a Boss, does this take away from your green gem?

So say it gave you 7 green gems, but viper turns (?) it into a red gem does that mean you only get 6?

Thanks, only just got Viper (from the pack) and haven't used since just now (wasn't allowed to up and until now!).
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Astardis Aug 7, 2020 @ 6:27am 
No, the red gem is a unique loot drop. You won't loose green gems.
Noeh23 Aug 7, 2020 @ 6:32am 
Originally posted by OldGamer:
If Black Viper gets her red gem from a Boss, does this take away from your green gem?

So say it gave you 7 green gems, but viper turns (?) it into a red gem does that mean you only get 6?

Thanks, only just got Viper (from the pack) and haven't used since just now (wasn't allowed to up and until now!).

And good luck with the Red gems .... this is my mini-quest .... I like to collect them. At 3400 right now. Too bad it caps out at 6500. Getting them is much easier now that we have modron cores and we can set up automation :-)
OldGamer Aug 7, 2020 @ 6:35am 
Originally posted by Noeh23:
Originally posted by OldGamer:
If Black Viper gets her red gem from a Boss, does this take away from your green gem?

So say it gave you 7 green gems, but viper turns (?) it into a red gem does that mean you only get 6?

Thanks, only just got Viper (from the pack) and haven't used since just now (wasn't allowed to up and until now!).

And good luck with the Red gems .... this is my mini-quest .... I like to collect them. At 3400 right now. Too bad it caps out at 6500. Getting them is much easier now that we have modron cores and we can set up automation :-)
ah they cap. I thought there was a catch.

I was thinking it be unlimited but her red gems replace the green gem (so the player has to decide to either use her for the boost but loose gems that you can use everywhere else.)

Yeah I STILL need to do split the party. I am typing this so I actually do this haha.
Coo Coo Pigeon Aug 7, 2020 @ 12:28pm 
Oof, I regret having done the hard way... might be easy/easier to get the 6500 nowadays.
Noeh23 Aug 7, 2020 @ 12:44pm 
Originally posted by Coo Coo Pigeon:
Oof, I regret having done the hard way... might be easy/easier to get the 6500 nowadays.

Way easier ... just add viper to a speed formation (sacrificing Minsc) overnight with auto restart modron core and watch red gems grow. Kind of lost its flair .... used to be hard/manual/time consuming. Now I wake up with 100-200 red gems more in the morning.
Coo Coo Pigeon Aug 7, 2020 @ 12:50pm 
I got me a whole 6842 (once, a long long time ago, I thought it might be worth farming them. I was wrong)
Shindragan Aug 7, 2020 @ 1:05pm 
I have around 10k red gems now, you never know when they might give her an update.
Noeh23 Aug 7, 2020 @ 1:44pm 
I did try to play around with her Aura of Infamy and build a formation that fully benefits from this - with Nova you even get a Warlock Tank which is great .... but in the end the formation is just another fun but average build.
OldGamer Aug 7, 2020 @ 2:48pm 
Originally posted by Shindragan:
I have around 10k red gems now, you never know when they might give her an update.
might be a long time

on their streams they talk of "originals" (which were made by CNE) longside the DnD 5th edition (?) ones they do usually. (and even then I don't think we are even half way through are we?)

But if they are designing new ones (which is great), I doubt they come back to older creations. Unless they happen to make one of their alliegences again and do a team buff.

What I am hoping for is they will do a campaign for each house/alligence and make a proper solid story/narrative out of it.

And also very smart of CNE to create their own, I think they might try to cut themselves loose from their physical form, as (from their streams) I heard they are very limited on what they can and cannot sell.
Coo Coo Pigeon Aug 7, 2020 @ 2:52pm 
We had a whole year 1 patch a while ago, some champions completely changed some slightly.
Might come, he got a point there
OldGamer Aug 7, 2020 @ 2:53pm 
Originally posted by Coo Coo Pigeon:
We had a whole year 1 patch a while ago, some champions completely changed some slightly.
Might come, he got a point there

Ah didn't know. Might well be then. Especially if they do it my years I guess.

I assume they do the same number of events each year? Maybe even add to them?
Soteria Aug 7, 2020 @ 3:15pm 
Same events each year.
Compassionate727 Aug 8, 2020 @ 7:38am 
Originally posted by Noeh23:
I did try to play around with her Aura of Infamy and build a formation that fully benefits from this - with Nova you even get a Warlock Tank which is great .... but in the end the formation is just another fun but average build.
Yeah, pretty sure they were trying to avoid what happened with Zorbu, who starts as an average champion and becomes absolutely dominant after putting some effort into him. So instead they created a weak champion who becomes average after putting some effort into him. Utterly useless. I got my 300 gems for the achievement and moved on with my life.
ptor Aug 8, 2020 @ 2:40pm 
Originally posted by Compassionate727:
So instead they created a weak champion who becomes average after putting some effort into him. Utterly useless.
Or is it? Given the rumors of Zorbu being overdue a nerf, I wouldn't be surprised to wake up one day and learn Zorbu has now gone the Nova/Jaheira/Strix/etc way. Which would make sense and make formation crafting more dynamic

I remember when she came out and there a huge outcry of "this is where the game will go to the gutter with this new lifetime collection mechanic which will be on everyone forever". Which really turned out into the underwhelming BV, Zorbu as he is now, and Briv's jump stacks. The others "collect until reset" are still offspring of this but don't make things that much more powerful for long term farmers

Does not change the fact that Black Viper is a quarter-decent low favour multi-shot DPS that can be used if you don't have better options and you possibly farmed her gems
Not that I'd recommend unlocking her earlier than most other champions, or over-farming her gems.
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