Grimm/Beadle dragon formation?

[ptor]

hi, I've been mobpiling at the dragon for a few minutes and was looking for ideas on what might help to pass onward
My formation is (usual top-bottom, front-back):
Tyril, Aila
Briv, Avren, Celeste, Krull
Freely, Zorbu
Stoki, Gromma

(now that I've typed this I've realised it's gone onto 708 so I can return to my progress formation :sweatsmile: )

[MehZhure]

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MehZhure eredeti hozzászólása:

yeah...beyond 700 they start to get very unfriendly. Break past 750 and the mobs are just mean. Basically, you cannot let them get stack up or you're done.

So just BUD or death? Ouch, that makes my whole krull-freely piling strategy and speccing useless! what are you using?

Fortunately, on my platform (android), the K'thriss/Avren combo still works. So, that's the only way i have to break through. I only have just over 100 ilvls on Avrens #6, so the ult cooldown is still about 170 seconds. So, no unlimited DPS peak for me, but i am fine that. If I can catch it with just the right balance of debuffs in effect, I can still get my BUD to tick in around e220 at about the peak...and I have to do it manually or the effects only sync up maybe once an hour... But, whatever. That's how I am doing it. Oh...and a firebreath potion...no speed potion. i have found speed potions mess it up.

EDIT: Well...apparently all those blacksmith contracts I have been dumping into Avren are starting to pay off. I just hit a new personal record BUD Hit of 1.68e250. That is well past any previous hits I have had.

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

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I only have just over 100 ilvls on Avrens #6, so the ult cooldown is still about 170 seconds. So, no unlimited DPS peak for me, but i am fine that.

Anything under 4 minutes with a 200% dmg boost on ult will do my friend.
Combine it with Cali bug and e1000+ is there in no time.

Surpised to see that such game breaking bugs aint fixed on other clients tho, I guess most users are PC users.

Doesn't your phone get incredibly hot running idle games? (Maybe my phone is just too old but mine gets too hot to hold)

[MehZhure]

Coo Coo Pigeon eredeti hozzászólása:

MehZhure eredeti hozzászólása:

I only have just over 100 ilvls on Avrens #6, so the ult cooldown is still about 170 seconds. So, no unlimited DPS peak for me, but i am fine that.

Anything under 4 minutes with a 200% dmg boost on ult will do my friend.
Combine it with Cali bug and e1000+ is there in no time.

Surpised to see that such game breaking bugs aint fixed on other clients tho, I guess most users are PC users.

Doesn't your phone get incredibly hot running idle games? (Maybe my phone is just too old but mine gets too hot to hold)

Mostly, i use the bluestacks emulator to run android games on my pc. Kind of stuck with it this way since we can't transition platforms.

What Cali bug are you referring to?

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

Oh yea, not using it will prevent your phone from overheating.

Referring to the bug that made her top DPS with an ever growing BUD (Avren) when armored/hp segmented units exist (Jim)

[MehZhure]

Coo Coo Pigeon eredeti hozzászólása:

Oh yea, not using it will prevent your phone from overheating.

Referring to the bug that made her top DPS with an ever growing BUD (Avren) when armored/hp segmented units exist (Jim)

First time I have heard of that. I may mess around and see if I can replicate it.

[ptor]

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First time I have heard of that. I may mess around and see if I can replicate it.

I got precisely nowhere. Hope you have better luck

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

Previous time where I uploaded screenshots and explained people how it worked I kinda got roasted for not first reporting it as game breaking bug. (tbh, i figured it was as designed) so that step I leave out, the rest remains pretty much time same)

Get Avren as highest dps (doesnt matter how low, as long as he's highest)
Get Cali as lowest dps
Have fast hoardpersons
Get Cali with hoardsperson, wait until Avren is about to attack (time it) and ult

knowing ur avarage ilvl, I take it its about +e40 BUD (time to decay is way bigger than time to next ult so you could make it unlimited, but I realised that when the Avren / K'Triss discussion came passed here)
Without a Cali bug, I take it its +- e10 bonus
- - - edit - - -
Cali attacks 2 monsters every 2.95s - if there was a way to make it hit more often say 2 monsters for 4 hits . . . .

[MehZhure]

Coo Coo Pigeon eredeti hozzászólása:

Previous time where I uploaded screenshots and explained people how it worked I kinda got roasted for not first reporting it as game breaking bug. (tbh, i figured it was as designed) so that step I leave out, the rest remains pretty much time same)

Get Avren as highest dps (doesnt matter how low, as long as he's highest)
Get Cali as lowest dps
Have fast hoardpersons
Get Cali with hoardsperson, wait until Avren is about to attack (time it) and ult

knowing ur avarage ilvl, I take it its about +e40 BUD (time to decay is way bigger than time to next ult so you could make it unlimited, but I realised that when the Avren / K'Triss discussion came passed here)
Without a Cali bug, I take it its +- e10 bonus
- - - edit - - -
Cali attacks 2 monsters every 2.95s - if there was a way to make it hit more often say 2 monsters for 4 hits . . . .

Ah...this is techncially just a very specific version of the Avren/k'thriss combo. I refuse to call it a bug, because it works EXACTLY as it should according to the abilities descriptions.

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

Yea, that "bug" (unaccounted for way of use) is part of it.
With the multi-hit per 3 seconds, even if unstackable (without Avren), its a dps nice boost.

[MehZhure]

Coo Coo Pigeon eredeti hozzászólása:

Yea, that "bug" (unaccounted for way of use) is part of it.
With the multi-hit per 3 seconds, even if unstackable (without Avren), its a dps nice boost.

That make me wonder if this effect would work with Ashara, Jim, krond, and Farideh, since they also have multi-shot abilities. Heh...this reminds me, i have been intending to try this with barrowin and her super-speed. Her hits can get down to 1.18/s if I remember correctly. Now that i am thinking about it, same thing for artemis...but it would be a huge pain in the butt to make him have the lowest dps while simultaneously having the super-speed strikes.

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

1.18/s is more than 2.95/8 (with Korth base even less)
It needs to hit multiple targets with the auto attack to trigger this, when all hits are on same target (armored/hp segmented or not) it doesn't count "multiple attacks" for the BUD gain
(Do note hellish rebuke doesn't count as an auto-attack for the skill)

[MehZhure]

Coo Coo Pigeon eredeti hozzászólása:

1.18/s is more than 2.95/8 (with Korth base even less)
It needs to hit multiple targets with the auto attack to trigger this, when all hits are on same target (armored/hp segmented or not) it doesn't count "multiple attacks" for the BUD gain
(Do note hellish rebuke doesn't count as an auto-attack for the skill)

I just checked, and Cali only cycles every 3.7s. How are you getting a 2.95s attack cycle?

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

I've no idea, as far as I know it's default?
Just levelled her up to be able to screenshot her. Maybe you see something I forgot
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2170950142

[Soteria]

Probably Grand Tour's blessing that reduces attack speed.

[MehZhure]

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Probably Grand Tour's blessing that reduces attack speed.

Ah yeah. That's probably what it is. I think the Mad Wizard is in the Grand Tour.