Freely

[ptor]

On paper, sounds the kind of hero you'd want in all formations, at least until the near-wall (1% favour every 100 levels, plus equipment boost? don't mind if I do!)
But will the rubber<->road interaction hold up?

PS I'll consider it a letdown if his achievement or feat isn't called "Get lucky" :D

[OldGamer]

Originally posted by muljostpho:

Originally posted by SevenBlueSeven:

I'd imagine that things are going to start to look annoying for new players here once Idle Champions starts working on its fourth year of events though. The year one champs are going to be phased out of being offered directly in their events and new players will only be able to get them from time gates. And once they get to year five the same thing will happen to the year two champs.

Well they have set it up so they can just add, I reckon they will just keep adding every year and extend the event. Like I imagine the event was actually only 3 days in year one? (wasn't there, but a 11 days or 14 days would be too much if they did do that with only 4 challenges)

[SevenBlueSeven]

I certainly am looking to understand him better. As for now, I am not seeing any clear cut description of how best and when to use him. I will wait for more experienced players to add their voice and suggestions on how best to use him.

[ptor]

According to (1), favor scales with roughly root3(gold), which means (if my maths are still somewhere in the realm of reality), clearing 100 levels with a naked Freely give 1% favour which is the (rough) equivalent of 3% gold find, on top of whatever gold one harvestedearned.

Granted, nothing compared to the 100% Cattie-brie drops on the table, but there's nothing preventing from using her during gold find and Freely when clearing the levels (however much extra gold he yields), which is "better than nothing", and I'd hold a welcome addition to underpowered roosters

(1) https://idlechampions.gamepedia.com/Gold_formulas

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

If his buffs would stay when you swap him out, he'd actually be quite useful.

I guess if you pack him with gear he'll be a good thing to use in an Azaka farm (Put him in from the beginning and swapping him out when needed to push to put him back in when time to farm).

[Hecate]

Originally posted by OldGamer:

Well they have set it up so they can just add, I reckon they will just keep adding every year and extend the event. Like I imagine the event was actually only 3 days in year one? (wasn't there, but a 11 days or 14 days would be too much if they did do that with only 4 challenges)

No, events allways were on a ten+ day length frame. You've to see there was no offline mode then (not everyone let their computer open 24h a day) and it covered the fact you can have some days off for holidays, family, etc. Also, the level softcap of champs was much lower then and without divine blessings and patron perks, area 200 was much more a thing back then.

edit : typos

[Naesala]

Freely isn't too bad, with some good luck, although I would likely find him better suited on a single target, like a boss, because of his luck related stacks, stack multiplicative, he can increase your single target damage on a boss reasonably much, not to mention he even throws in a stun chance along with massive gold increase, if you got any gold increase stacks and stacked them up a bunch. Lets say you got unlucky them and one of all your champions grant 1 gold applying attack, lets say that 1 attack grants 5 of these stacks. That one attack would increase the gold from that enemy by 61%, so if it's a boss, I'm sure you would be able to get over 20 stacks on it before killing it, if it's at your wall, so lets continue further, those 20 stacks would result in 672,7% increased gold obtained from it. So hey, lets go and check the added boss damage he could potentially add with 20 stacks, each stack increasing damage dealt to the enemy by 100% multiplicatively, which becomes 1 048 576 (found out by doing 2^20) times the damage or if you want it in % it's 104857600%. Ofc this is without adding items, I don't know if he has a stack limit, heck I haven't checked out how many stacks he can potentially stack in 1 single blow either, but for potential wall pushing, this looks decent, could likely even give you a good chunk of extra gold in your wall setup, not so reliable for gold setup unless you're farming bosses.

Edit: Alright, I did some wrong math regarding how feasible it is to get 5 or 20 stacks, but if your whole squad is of the same alignment, lawful, neutral or chaotic, I'm sure you can get them stacks up one way or another, so just consider the math as being lucky in stacking that many attacks of the same one, without applying unlucky them. Unlucky them would make the stacks more powerful post stacking. so with 600% unlucky them, the 61% ish gold stack (5 stacks) would be 660% post stacks, although keep in mind 600% unlucky them is with a naked Freely with it only improved twice, meaning 2 out of 12 improvement levels.

[Hecate]

Another bad point for Adventurous Tale, Briv's skipped areas don't count as completed. So the more Briv's Unnatural haste you have, the worse your Adventurous Tale's reward will be. Of course, running without Briv to improve AT reward is non-sense : time loss will overpass by far favor benefits.

But as Speed formation are wide open except for Briv, Melf, Shandie, Sentry & Deekin reserved slots, giving on Minsc is not such a big loss, and the extra favor from Freely can take its place there as a king of freely gift, if needed.

Considering speed formation, I think I'll use Freely on launch on the 3-4 runs I push per event/TG, and elsewhere I'll use Minsc for true speed runs (w/o favor gains).

[Phantom]

Well yes and no but kinda yes and mostly no Hecate

IF your doing a gold find push at the end it will be better to not use briv to skip and instead use Freely for the bonus

[Hecate]

Except if you can do two runs with Briv the time you've done one without him, don't you think so ?

In a night of long-afk run, yeah, Briv can be taken out. But i don't see the point elsewhere if it means less runs in the course.

Anyway, play the game the way each one likes is the most important thing. :)

[Coo Coo Pigeon]

Originally posted by Hecate:

In a night of long-afk run, yeah, Briv can be taken out. But i don't see the point elsewhere if it means less runs in the course.

but... but... free stacks!

[Hecate]

Well, you get a point, it can be a thing. But those free stacks don't give you so much over a few minute of active Briv's farming*. Well, let say it will save you those few minutes, but at the cost of a bit of favor in that case... It's no more hours in the balance but minutes, the extra-favor can be more appealing then. Again, it depends on your priorities.

*take into account than the cost of area skiping is exponential, also

(Side note : as I shut down my computer for night, I usually log out with a wall formation, not a speed one. I admit I've never checked if Briv can stack up in offline mode... But if he does, it shouldn't be so much anyway)

[ptor]

Briv "steals" those levels, that was known from Nova as well.
I do however hereby claim the Freely and Briv can go together, for the following reasons:
- Not all levels are skipped. A small bonus "for free" is still a bonus
- Briv dosn't have infinite skips. You'll need to recharge him eventually, and those levels count for Freely
- Just like the missed income from Brivved levels is irrelevant, the missed favour bonus from Brivved tales is (less so, but still) irrelevant
- If you find yourself having to sacrifice Briv's skips for Freely's tale there's something strange going on with your strategy

[Phantom]

Originally posted by Hecate:

Except if you can do two runs with Briv the time you've done one without him, don't you think so ?

In a night of long-afk run, yeah, Briv can be taken out. But i don't see the point elsewhere if it means less runs in the course.

Anyway, play the game the way each one likes is the most important thing. :)

Except no

Because when you hit your favour wall you are really only going to be doing a push in the event that

1 - You have a weekend buff that gives 200%+ gold find
or - You have multiple weekend buffs giving gold find

and 2 - You are probably using 10x speed coupled with full pots on the rest... briv doesn't really save a ton of time when your full speed aheading

Two runs at the end might give +5% favour, (for a total increase of just over 10%) but that consumes a lot of potions [and I'm being generous at the end game 5% favour, I literally can't increase favour in two of my areas by anything other than timegates or events, they just have too much favour to ever get to the level needed to increase (which is 900+)

+ you need to do a recharge on briv to do this

Whereas

One end run might give you +8% favour increase +40% boost on that (+11%)(I happened to land a shiny on his and then opened 6x golds for 4x purples :P including his tales one)... .06% per level now... probably going to be a bit higher for the end but I doubt everyones gunna land a purple on it let alone a shiny purple

But I not only took less time than two runs, but I also don't need to recharge and used less potions

[OldGamer]

so for freely, is this a viable strategy?

I sit at a low level (was on 33) and just waited to get freely.

Then I put speed, bud and gold potions for the whole adventure.

Got Jarlaxe, Makos, Walfgar and Cattie Brie recruited

And hit progress on.

I know its only .1% meaning you would have to do a century of levels before getting any noticable effect, but this should be good for a favour mine?

I don't have many champs (Azaka would be immense here I'd imagine!).

I'll type out all my champs later.

[OldGamer]

also Walnut (or Deekin) forget which are nice also to speed it up even more. Still my first time use for these guys so still getting used to them.