Gromma, Shandie, Donaar, or Sentry?

[Droz1937]

I am moving on to my next group of characters to work towards. I just got Azaka, Jim, and Korth.

I feel these 4 are next in the line. Unless Wulfgar or Regis would be a better pickup.

[Droz1937]

From the research and help from users I have the following conclusions:

Gromma and Donaar are going to be the best characters to use for my wall.

Sentry and Shandie will be best used to speed run to my wall.

Regis and Wulfgar are needed for Azaka runs.

I just got Azaka, so perhaps I should go with Wulfgar then Regis? I am not sure that Gromma and Donaar are that big of a boost; thus, more gold gain (favor gain) with Azaka farming might be the better choice atm.

[Intuition]

Between Gromma or Shandie. Gromma useful for another tank in Strahd patron. Shandie overshadowed by Krull but the speed buff is nice.

I'd prioritize Shandie first.

[Droz1937]

When sorting "soonest available unowned champion" does that mean the event that grants them is sooner? If that is true it looks like Shandie is available in two events. I might have to make my decision based off that. :)

[Zrazzt]

I'd go for Gromma to be honest. She'll push your wall and can be used for a lot of variants for patrons. She'll function as a tank, debuffer....

Shandie is great though, if you're doing gem farming.

[Droz1937]

Thanks for the time to make a post! I appreciate it!

I went with Gromma because I believe that Shandie is coming up in an event soon enough to wait for. I think my next Time Portal will probably be used on Sentry as Wulfgar is shortly after Shandie and Donaar is after Wulfgar...meaning Regis should be my third TG. Getting me all the characters I'm looking for at about the same time. :)

[Intuition]

Originally posted by Zrazzt:

I'd go for Gromma to be honest. She'll push your wall and can be used for a lot of variants for patrons. She'll function as a tank, debuffer....

Shandie is great though, if you're doing gem farming.

Isn't Spurt better now that debuff can't double dip with ulti anymore?

Gromma only available for Vajra, later for Strahd. She's not that great of a tank though, unless CNE plan to change her +Self DPS gear into HP. Hopefully that was the plan..

[Intuition]

Originally posted by Droz:

When sorting "soonest available unowned champion" does that mean the event that grants them is sooner? If that is true it looks like Shandie is available in two events. I might have to make my decision based off that. :)

Honestly I just use event achievement page, lol. But yeah Shadie coming in the event after next one. Deekin and Walnut should be available in a few days then Shandie.

[Droz1937]

Originally posted by BlueSky:

Originally posted by Zrazzt:

I'd go for Gromma to be honest. She'll push your wall and can be used for a lot of variants for patrons. She'll function as a tank, debuffer....

Shandie is great though, if you're doing gem farming.

Isn't Spurt better now that debuff can't double dip with ulti anymore?

Gromma only available for Vajra, later for Strahd. She's not that great of a tank though, unless CNE plan to change her +Self DPS gear into HP. Hopefully that was the plan..

I'm not sure if this is what you are referring to, but maybe it is.

As I understand it, you can use Gromma for the debuffs and then swap in Spurt for the DPS boost. The debuffs last for a bit of time after Gromma is pulled, thus you can get some gains in pushing your wall past a boss. Latest info I read had Gromma and Spurt on equal footing for the most part where the debuffs are about equal to the DPS gain from Spurt.

That said, the information I was reading might not be up to date.

EDIT: Also, I could see Gromma being used over Spurt for a mission where more tanks are required. The added ability of Gromma being used for Patrons is also a boost, I am not sure that Spurt falls in the same category.

Based on the most used characters, it shows Wulfgar is used by players far more than the others. I am guessing this is due to Azaka?

[Phantom]

Gromma - Decent tank, decent buffer, is a mainstay hero

Shandie - 50% speed boost makes her the queen of speed runs, also works as a rogue for early gold find for events/timegates

Donaar - An alternative swap in hero for the end game gold farm techniques... valuable

Sentry - Minor speed boost hero, decent tank, decent buffer

Wulfgar - End game gold farm hero

Regis - End game hero both amazing buffer and a champion of the hall for the gold find


IMO of these heros

1 Shandie
2 Regis
3 Wulfgar
4 Donaair
5 Sentry
6 Gromma

[Droz1937]

Originally posted by Phantom:

Gromma - Decent tank, decent buffer, is a mainstay hero

Shandie - 50% speed boost makes her the queen of speed runs, also works as a rogue for early gold find for events/timegates

Donaar - An alternative swap in hero for the end game gold farm techniques... valuable

Sentry - Minor speed boost hero, decent tank, decent buffer

Wulfgar - End game gold farm hero

Regis - End game hero both amazing buffer and a champion of the hall for the gold find


IMO of these heros

1 Shandie
2 Regis
3 Wulfgar
4 Donaair
5 Sentry
6 Gromma

Why would you say people tend to use Wulfgar more than Regis? Is it just who they replace?

Also, what is your opinion of Spurt vs Gromma?

[Intuition]

Originally posted by Droz:

Originally posted by BlueSky:

Isn't Spurt better now that debuff can't double dip with ulti anymore?

Gromma only available for Vajra, later for Strahd. She's not that great of a tank though, unless CNE plan to change her +Self DPS gear into HP. Hopefully that was the plan..

I'm not sure if this is what you are referring to, but maybe it is.

As I understand it, you can use Gromma for the debuffs and then swap in Spurt for the DPS boost. The debuffs last for a bit of time after Gromma is pulled, thus you can get some gains in pushing your wall past a boss. Latest info I read had Gromma and Spurt on equal footing for the most part where the debuffs are about equal to the DPS gain from Spurt.

That said, the information I was reading might not be up to date.

EDIT: Also, I could see Gromma being used over Spurt for a mission where more tanks are required. The added ability of Gromma being used for Patrons is also a boost, I am not sure that Spurt falls in the same category.

Based on the most used characters, it shows Wulfgar is used by players far more than the others. I am guessing this is due to Azaka?

I think so. I think it also depend on how you want to gold farm, I'm happy enough popping potion and go on afk than micro manage it though. So Wulfgar offer me nothing other than stun and stun stagger.

I seem to keep failing trying to swap Gromma for debuff. Kept messing up the timing somehow, worse when I have pots on. But you were right about Shandie she's right around the corner, might as well grab Gromma.

[Soteria]

I wish I had prioritized all the speed champions. There's a huge difference in how fast you can progress, especially in long runs.

[Phantom]

Originally posted by Droz:

Why would you say people tend to use Wulfgar more than Regis? Is it just who they replace?

Also, what is your opinion of Spurt vs Gromma?

Lots of people like tanks or alternative tanks

IMO Wulfgars only great in a gold find formation
Regis is just better than him as Regis is almost always my choice hero for that slot (Unless I need healing or hes just not available)

Equal buffs to Celeste but he also has debuffs (which don't show on the dps display) making him an easy few e damage better than the next choice...

Spurt is inferior to Gromma but some variants use him

[ptor]

Do you have Krull (slot 6)? If not, get Krull. Best support to raise max level, bar none.
Second best support to raise max level is Avren (sturdy mirrors, slot 11).

Of the list you mentioned, I'd go with Sentry, Shandie, Donaar, Gromma.
Sentry (homeland spec) is an ok tank which speeds up the game when not hit. Buffs only when in first column, but you can always keep him elsewhere to quickly get to a higher stage.
Shandie literally speeds up the game when the formation isn't attacked, but shares the slot with Krull. Still: until enemies start piling up, Shandie is the best pick.
Donaar is for all-healing, but most important works great with Krull (in mixed melee-range levels) and to give a moment of respite to tanks.
Gromma is an ok tank/debuffer; great if you plan to do the debuff/swap-to-Nayeli trick. She doesn't care about positioning either, only for age

With that out of the way, of the Champions of the Hall (+gold), Id give highest priority to Catti-brie: great support overall, might even work as DPS if you're missing one. The others? Regis is an appalling healer and ok buffer, and Wulfgar is lacklustre. Drizzt is the easiest bet of that lot, being an evergreen, but is mighty pricey to get to +gold. Why? DKDC

Speed boosts are like The Spice: very useful, much coveted, and you can't go wrong with them. Deekin, Sentry, Shandie, Melf and especially Briv are a staple of a quck-start formation, and most can double as good support if differently specced.
"the immortal" Briv in particular is an excellent second tank the best speed booster of them all, the only hero that can skip impossible boss fights, but has poor buffing abilities

Another good tank is "self-shield" Aila, which was #2 longest surviving tank until Briv (#1 is a well equipped Tyril) and doesn't care about positioning. Gromma is an ok tank/debuffer which only cares about one's age.

If you need a healer, a well placed Quillek (empowered, slot 5) heals everyone at once and gives a decent boost as well. Korth doesn't heal (he shields) but he's the most buffing of the healers, and will easily raise the wall. Remaining on the heal list are Sisaspia (slot 1) which only heals (and buffs and debuffs and ultimates) IF she has spores. Situationally useful; and Nerys (slot 12), which has kill-dependent healing (no kill, no heal) that gives a bonus attack to the DPS (but she seems to steal the credit?)