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Not using scientific scale...
So, I've been testing out that non-scientific scale... Utterly confused now....
Why would one want to remember:
K = 1e3
M = 1e6
B = 1e9
t = 1e12
q = 1e15
Q = 1e18
s = 1e21
S = 1e24
o = 1e27
n = 1e30
d = 1e33
U = 1e36
D = 1e39
T = 1e42
Qt = 1e45
Qd = 1e48
Sd = 1e51
St = 1e54
O = 1e57
N = 1e60
v = 1e63
c = 1e66

if from 999c the next number is 1e69?!?!

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Fixed value error
Last edited by Coo Coo Pigeon; Jun 19, 2020 @ 3:51am
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OldGamer Jun 18, 2020 @ 8:34am 
Question of habit I suppose. I used to play this game on a website where you bought profiles as "pets" and they had these funny numbers as well.

I put it down to them being american. But apparently its also the accepted count beyond the known billion (1 million million) million.
Last edited by OldGamer; Jun 18, 2020 @ 8:35am
Coo Coo Pigeon Jun 18, 2020 @ 8:40am 
The funny numbers are 1 thing, but why stop this at 999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999 = 1000c and continue with 1.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000 = 1.00e70?

Why doesnt it turn into 1K c?
thegrassyknoll Jun 18, 2020 @ 10:18am 
1 b or 1 t is easier on the eyes then 1.04e07 maybe? :) dont really need to memorize the letters anyhow. And yes, you are right, it changes to numbers eventually at e70 anyhow. For most numbers in the game like on the characters page for buffs, it is waaaay easier on the eyes to read 20 mil vs 2.0e06 . Brain intuitively knows what a million ,billion and trillion are from seeing those our whole ivees. Glad they have letters and the option to go strictly numbers for those that prefer it
MehZhure Jun 18, 2020 @ 10:49am 
Originally posted by OldGamer:
Question of habit I suppose. I used to play this game on a website where you bought profiles as "pets" and they had these funny numbers as well.

I put it down to them being american. But apparently its also the accepted count beyond the known billion (1 million million) million.

If by 'american', you mean 'modern english', then yes. The nomenclature represented is the modern standard used in the USA, Canada, UK, and Austraila.

In case anyone happens to be interested... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_large_numbers
MehZhure Jun 18, 2020 @ 11:08am 
Originally posted by Coo Coo Pigeon:
The funny numbers are 1 thing, but why stop this at 999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999 = 1000c and continue with 1.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000 = 1.00e70?

Why doesnt it turn into 1K c?

It doesn't because the nomenclature continues beyond e67. I only know it up to the vigintillions, but I have seen the much larger ones. It gets confusing...and kind of pointless when we have access to scientific and engineering notation. For instance, most people probably think the 'c' represents 'centillion'. Nope. e67 is a long way from one centillion. If it were to continue being logical, the representation would need to be 'uv' for 'unvigintillion', then duo, tre, quatro, etc.

Anyway. The lettering system works okay if you know the names. But, it's still not as good as either scientific or engineering notation.

Last edited by MehZhure; Jun 18, 2020 @ 11:08am
OldGamer Jun 18, 2020 @ 11:33am 
Originally posted by MehZhure:
Originally posted by OldGamer:
Question of habit I suppose. I used to play this game on a website where you bought profiles as "pets" and they had these funny numbers as well.

I put it down to them being american. But apparently its also the accepted count beyond the known billion (1 million million) million.

If by 'american', you mean 'modern english', then yes. The nomenclature represented is the modern standard used in the USA, Canada, UK, and Austraila.

In case anyone happens to be interested... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_large_numbers

Yes american. This was forced upon us in the decimalisation in 1973. I am old. :)

Just like it is american to eat outside, fast food and not around the dining room table. American how shops are now open on a sunday etc. It doesn't make it non american just because modern british people use it my son.
The Nothing Man Jun 18, 2020 @ 12:11pm 
I am also old, lol
and sci notation is for maths where you dont have to write out huge numbers
so its just a nerd thing as well as easy once you get it down
unless you want to remember all the lame numbers up to a googleplex
e=x10 1e1 = 10
not to diff
I prefer sci, or eng notation vs short aka the long names for crap like advent cap uses
adeyke Jun 18, 2020 @ 12:45pm 
Those exponents are off by one. They should all be multiples of 1,000 (i.e. the exponents should be divisible by 3).

As for why the prefixes stop at some point, they just get unwieldy with big numbers, especially with all the repeated starting letters. While the names of big numbers are standardized, the prefixes aren't. And one approach to this is to just give up at a certain point and use scientific notation.
The Nothing Man Jun 18, 2020 @ 12:56pm 
im talking actual sci notation
int x = 1E1; would make x = 10; and it would be an integer, because the 1E1 will be converted to int . When the compiler sees the 1.0, it automatically becomes one of the floating point types. So 1.0e1 is 10 which is the same as 10.0.
thats cap E btw
x=10 so again
1e1 = 10 in sci notation. or 10.0
messing in hex be fun

and yes most games use it to the 000 vs 00
this is due to numbers getting to long or high.
but its still vastly better than short or standard, at least until you pass the bill or trill mark and dont know the number system we never use in standard maths, but do in most physics or theoretical maths
muljostpho Jun 18, 2020 @ 2:05pm 
Pretty sure Adeyke was talking about the original post. Not yours, Kaldire.

The original post referred to 1k (1 thousand) as 1e4, but 1e4 = 10k (10 thousand). And this error carried forward into everything after it as well. 1M (1 million) is 1e6, not 1e7. 1B (1 billion) is 1e9, not 1e10. And so on.
The Nothing Man Jun 18, 2020 @ 3:03pm 
rgr rgr gotcha
Coo Coo Pigeon Jun 18, 2020 @ 3:20pm 
Yea I must a made an oopsie there, should have noticed but was too busy adding 3 for each letter combo.
Still stopped at e70 tho xD
OldGamer Jun 19, 2020 @ 12:48am 
Originally posted by Kaldire:
I am also old, lol
and sci notation is for maths where you dont have to write out huge numbers
so its just a nerd thing as well as easy once you get it down
unless you want to remember all the lame numbers up to a googleplex
e=x10 1e1 = 10
not to diff
I prefer sci, or eng notation vs short aka the long names for crap like advent cap uses

I wasn't going against the mathematical terminologies. I wasn't really going against the new number way either (which I call american). All I was making a point about is British culture changed heavily in the 70s/80s due to the (well two things)
a) Tories wanted to be "closer allies" with america.
b) we had then lib-lab coalition near the end of the 70s that wanted globaliisation.

In the 80s it was more conservative with conservative americans wanting to make london/NYC power houses once more (like they were in the 1930s)

And in the 90s when gloablism took a hold on american/british companies so much so we started getting our manufactoring done in the far east.

A british billion is not the american billion (which is smaller). Hence why we think there are more rich people in the world, but they are not. If you revert back to imperial numbers (I think they call them), most of the rich list wouldn't be billionaires.
ElderKorean Jun 19, 2020 @ 3:47am 
I can't stand that letter scale, I just pressed Y and changed the display to scientific notation.

Currently i'm at 50T gold, that equals 5e43, so the "T = 1e43" line is incorrect
Last edited by ElderKorean; Jun 19, 2020 @ 3:49am
Coo Coo Pigeon Jun 19, 2020 @ 3:50am 
Originally posted by ElderKorean:
I can't stand that letter scale, I just pressed Y and changed the display to scientific notation.

Currently i'm at 50T gold, that equals 5e43, so the "T = 1e43" line is incorrect
Yea, all the lines are incorrect. I messed up at line 1, followed it trough. Everything is -1
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