Idle Champions of the Forgotten Realms

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Sveltedesert Apr 12, 2020 @ 7:40pm
Tyril or makos support?
Is Tyril's moonbeam or Makos's dark blessing better? Gear is pretty equivalent. I'm pretty set with my other supports, but can't figure out which of these is better for the last one. Any help would be appreciated!
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Phantom Apr 12, 2020 @ 10:01pm 
Tyril is one of the god tier heros

Makos is pretty good, but Tyril is hands down better

Hes one of the best tanks or one of the best buffers depending on which spec you take
MassConnect Apr 12, 2020 @ 10:03pm 
In the long run, moonbeam will do more (assuming the formation allows the max buff), but it's also going to cost more.

For the sake of argument, do you have 808 S gold (e26) to get 5,400% or 105 S gold (e26) to get 3,600% ? If yes, go Tyril.

Prior to that point, it costs Tyril 13.8 s (e22) to get 600%, but only 236 Q (e20) to get Makos to 1,200%

In other words, you can always use Makos until you have 1 o (or e27) gold, then swap to Tyril and catch him back up in levels.
Last edited by MassConnect; Apr 12, 2020 @ 10:17pm
Sveltedesert Apr 12, 2020 @ 10:12pm 
I'm pretty new, so still on the first campaign with the diamond formation, but I can get up to e33 gold, so I guess I'll go with Tyril, thanks!
ptor Apr 12, 2020 @ 10:57pm 
The "full" answer is try using one, check the BUD for the next minute; try the other and check the BUD for a minute. You may also look at average DPS.
Pick the one that gives you the most :)
MassConnect Apr 13, 2020 @ 4:11am 
I literally just explained why doing that only once is a potential mistake.
ptor Apr 13, 2020 @ 5:21am 
Originally posted by Tweak:
I literally just explained why doing that only once is a potential mistake.
Absolutely! It needs periodic re-evaluation, and I'm sure you'll agree no matter the formation shape, or the variant, or the challenge, or the roster, or the re-balancing, it's how you find out your most deadly formation
MehZhure Apr 13, 2020 @ 11:58am 
I would say it is situational. The power of the buff for each is highly dependant on the shape of the formation. Too many champs near Tyril massively reduces his buff. Champs adjacent to Makos don't benefit from his buff.

So, if you have a lonely formation position, Tyril for the win. If you are doing a DPS focus, and the DPS champ is not adjacent to Makos, and there are no lonely positions...Makos for the win.
Aingster1 Apr 13, 2020 @ 4:14pm 
I'd probably just tank with him, moonbeam compared to other buffers just isn't a buff. Up to you though. And why is there a blustacks players on steam? I don't trust it, legit it's a android emu to allow hacking because phones cut off the SD cards to stop exploiting apk's. Should be bannable imo, as you can also spoof. I mean, it's a single player game sure, but really? I mean seems odd you didn't hear of the game for 3 years despite owning a pc? I don't buy it lol
MehZhure Apr 13, 2020 @ 4:26pm 
Originally posted by Aingster1:
I'd probably just tank with him, moonbeam compared to other buffers just isn't a buff. Up to you though. And why is there a blustacks players on steam? I don't trust it, legit it's a android emu to allow hacking because phones cut off the SD cards to stop exploiting apk's. Should be bannable imo, as you can also spoof. I mean, it's a single player game sure, but really? I mean seems odd you didn't hear of the game for 3 years despite owning a pc? I don't buy it lol

Clearly you don't understand what bluestacks is. Bluestacks is an emulator. It's no different than running a mac emulator in winodws, or a windows emulator on a mac. It isn't a hacking platform.
Soteria Apr 13, 2020 @ 9:17pm 
Where the heck did bluestacks enter into the conversation? And no, moonbeam is not a weak buff. It's really good if you can keep Tyril from being adjacent to more than 2 other champs.
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