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Birdperson Jun 6, 2018 @ 4:43am
I keep forgetting what the Damage letters mean
Is it documented somewhere to make it easier to remember? When we get into the T's and Q's its difficult to tell which character is doing more damage.

k,m,b,t,q,Q

I think? I don't know whats after uppercase Q.
Last edited by Birdperson; Jun 6, 2018 @ 4:44am
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Roadkill4479 Jun 6, 2018 @ 4:58am 
This will help you with the numbers.
http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Pointless/BigNumbers.html
76561198827811494 Jun 6, 2018 @ 5:01am 
Press "y" when in game to see scientific value. It is easier.
Captain_Narol Jun 6, 2018 @ 5:13am 
Or switch permanently to Scientific Notation in game options.
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
Codename  [developer] Jun 6, 2018 @ 9:04am 
Birdperson Jun 6, 2018 @ 10:39am 
great, thanks!! :cs_axe:
harrylipwig Jun 6, 2018 @ 11:10am 
Originally posted by Codename:
These are our naming conventions. http://crusaders-of-the-lost-idols.wikia.com/wiki/Large_Number_Abbreviations
When are you adding in more real named numbers. It goes from vigintillian to centillian to scientific notation. I enjopyed seeing new letters pop up. E** is boring to me.
Soul Reaver (Banned) Jun 6, 2018 @ 12:56pm 
Forget those strange names which differ between games by different devs. Switch to scientific notation in options. This is simple and you know exactly what value you see.
Codename  [developer] Jun 6, 2018 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by harrylipwig:
Originally posted by Codename:
These are our naming conventions. http://crusaders-of-the-lost-idols.wikia.com/wiki/Large_Number_Abbreviations
When are you adding in more real named numbers. It goes from vigintillian to centillian to scientific notation. I enjopyed seeing new letters pop up. E** is boring to me.


We won't be.
muljostpho Jun 6, 2018 @ 8:33pm 
Originally posted by harrylipwig:
Originally posted by Codename:
These are our naming conventions. http://crusaders-of-the-lost-idols.wikia.com/wiki/Large_Number_Abbreviations
When are you adding in more real named numbers. It goes from vigintillian to centillian to scientific notation. I enjopyed seeing new letters pop up. E** is boring to me.

Centillion (e303 in scientific) is what AdVenture Capitalist goes up to and they massively overdo it on the named numbers compared to anything else I've seen. But that's their gimmick. That's their selling point. Seeing all these crazy high numbers spelled out in full no matter how crazy the words get.

{checks the wiki link} Huh, CotLI / ICotFR use the abbreviation "c" for unvigintillion (e66 in scientific notation). How weird. What could possibly be the reasoning for something like that instead of something like "uv"?

Anyway...

Originally posted by Soul Reaver:
Forget those strange names which differ between games by different devs. Switch to scientific notation in options. This is simple and you know exactly what value you see.

I've looked at most of the idle games here on steam and it seems like I've seen almost every one of them having their own different conventions for which abbreviations to use for which names after you get past the most commonly recognizable ones (thousand k, million M, billion B, and trillion T). Some will have q and Q for quadrillion and quintillion, but for others it might be qd and qt, or perhaps Qd and Qt (however either pair is also possible to see as abbreviations for quattordecillion and quindecillion). Pretty sure I've also seen it where they just used AA, BB, CC, etc. as their abbreviations but each one was only x100 larger than the last instead of x1000 larger. (And then something else might also use AA, BB, CC, etc. but they actually do go up by x1000 each time.)

But yeah, with scientific notation you've just got a number like 1.23 followed by the "e" which means "times 10 to the power of" and then the final number is the order of magnitude. 1.23e4 = 1.23 x 10^4 = 12,300. And if you're comparing two numbers 5.43e2 and 6.78e9 it should be immediately obvious which is the larger value because 9 is larger than 2. (You'd only need to compare the numbers on the left if the order of magnitude is equal.)

And then there's engineering notation, which is just scientific notation but 1) the number on the left is allowed to have up to 3 digits in front of the decimal place, and 2) the number on the right must be divisible by 3 so that it's an order of magnitude that can correspond with one of the names. Same heightened level of clarity as scientific notation, but the "e3", "e6", "e9", "e12", etc. are easily interchangeable with "thousand", "million", "billion", "trillion", etc.
Last edited by muljostpho; Jun 7, 2018 @ 2:28pm
Originally posted by Codename:
Originally posted by harrylipwig:
When are you adding in more real named numbers. It goes from vigintillian to centillian to scientific notation. I enjopyed seeing new letters pop up. E** is boring to me.


We won't be.
Thank you. Scientific notation FTW :batarang::ambition:
Soul Reaver (Banned) Jun 6, 2018 @ 11:25pm 
Originally posted by muljostpho:
And then there's engineering notation, which is just scientific notation but 1) the number on the left is allowed to have up to 3 digits in front of the decimal place, and 2) the number on the right must be divisible by 3 so that it's an order of magnitude that can correspond with one of the names. Same heightened level of clarity as scientific notation, but the "e3", "e6", "e9", "e12", etc. are easily interchangeable with "thousand", "million", "billion", "trillion", etc.
"the other" SCI notation (i.e. ENG) would also be nice, but as numbers here get really high, there is no real advantage of this one. It is used mainly for real measurements, where units usually grade by thousand, i.e. for weight (grams) mg (-3) / g (0) / kg (3) / t (6). When you get to e.g. 1e63, you don't even know the actual unit (gold in this case) prefix, or if it exist. Actually, for monetary notation, I've never seen (not that I was looking for) notatiin with those prefixes, e.g. M$ (yes, I saw that one, not for money, but as a different way of writing Micro$oft :P). So here, simple SCI notation makes sense and there is no real point in bringing ENG notation to life (while it won't hurt, you'd be able to use what you preffer).
harrylipwig Jun 7, 2018 @ 5:37am 
Thank you for that extremely condescending reply Muljostpho. And I do understand why sn are used, to everyone else. I just hoped they would continue with the other. I don't really care how much damage I am doing as I never feel the need to relay it to anybody. It was purley for selfish reasons.
muljostpho Jun 7, 2018 @ 1:33pm 
???
Didn't mean to come across as condescending.
... I don't know. The word centillion stuck out because of AdCap, which prompted double-checking the names and how big they actually were because it felt a bit off to put vigintillion and centillion right next to each other.

If anything, my comment was poking at whatever Codename dev thought it made sense to abbreviate unvigintillion as "c".
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