Forced to convert early.

[booyaka]

Hi. Hoping to get help understanding this sequence of events that just occurred in my Kongregate version of the game (hope it's appropriate to post about it here).

I had two event favors banked:

• Savras' favor (from the last event)
  
• Mystra's favor (the Time Gate I selected)

For both favor types, the game stated I had 1 day plus some hours before I would be required to convert the event and timegate favors into permanent campaign favor. I decided I would convert only my Savras' favor immediately, farm up for the next day, then convert my Mystra's favor when I was required to after a day had passed.

I convert my Savras' favor, and to my surprise, the game forced me to convert my Mystra's favor immediately after. From the wording of the note, this action was not expected as the game had stated I had more than a day before I would be forced to convert.

I chose to close my timegate early and only convert the timegate favor while keeping my event favor unconverted until the deadline. Surprisingly, upon converting the timegate favor (after closing timegate), the game forced me to convert my event favor (no gate to close here) as well, despite a day+ left for the conversion deadline.

Am I missing an game rule or is this a bug?

EDIT: updated for clarity.

[Vaheteiole]

If you close time gate, you have to convert it's favor immediately.

[LostSoul]

Originally posted by Vaheteiole:

If you close time gate, you have to convert it's favor immediately.

Because with timegate pieces, you can then immediately open up another one. Though, to be honest, I only see that as a 'problem' because Mystra's favor is treated as event favor, when given its regularity and scope, it should more realistically be turned into a permanent favor.

[Lou_Wolfskin]

How exactly would that work out @LostSoul?
I mean, Timegates would, in part at least, have to work differently then and a good source of conversion to the current permanent campaigns would be lost.

[booyaka]

Originally posted by Vaheteiole:

If you close time gate, you have to convert it's favor immediately.

Thanks for the feedback. Reading your post made me realize I was inaccurate/not clear in my post, which I will update after this post.

I had two convertible temporary favors, timegate and event favor. I chose to close my timegate early and convert while keeping my event favor unconverted until the deadline. Upon converting the timegate (after closing the gate, as you pointed out), my event favor forced me to convert, despite a day+ left for the conversion deadline.

Does this change your analysis?

[Vaheteiole]

Originally posted by oakapo:

Originally posted by Vaheteiole:

If you close time gate, you have to convert it's favor immediately.

Thanks for the feedback. Reading your post made me realize I was inaccurate/not clear in my post, which I will update after this post.

I had two convertible temporary favors, timegate and event favor. I chose to close my timegate early and convert while keeping my event favor unconverted until the deadline. Upon converting the timegate (after closing the gate, as you pointed out), my event favor forced me to convert, despite a day+ left for the conversion deadline.

Does this change your analysis?

Sorry, can't help you. Maybe it's a bug, try contacting developers.

[Soul Reaver]

The problem is that this game is not properly "timed". Like Einstein said, time is relative and that's the basic rule in CNE's games. So just let me ask - have you been using speed potions? Or any other ... speeding? Time goes much faster in the game with potions. In game clock won't match your own.
I could other interesting time related examples, but those are actually exploits, that (I guess) are still present in the game, since CNE does not know how to handle time.

[booyaka]

Originally posted by Soul Reaver:

The problem is that this game is not properly "timed". Like Einstein said, time is relative and that's the basic rule in CNE's games. So just let me ask - have you been using speed potions? Or any other ... speeding? Time goes much faster in the game with potions. In game clock won't match your own.
I could other interesting time related examples, but those are actually exploits, that (I guess) are still present in the game, since CNE does not know how to handle time.

Great hypothesis about time relativity! I do use speed potions, and I'm sure I did use some during the last champion event. If you're right, it might be the source of my 'bug.' I'll do as another suggest and post this in the bug forum.

Thanks all.

[Soul Reaver]

Funny thing, I've started the game today again and was forced to convert same (TG/Mystra) favor for the second time ... just another example of how well made this game is ;) Too bad, I did not push myself to farm favor and just did 2 runs to 100 and 125 (as was required).