New missions in Grand Tour impossible?!

[spderweb]

I just tried starting the new missions, and both of them are screwed up. the first level, and neither my mouse or the dwarf are doing any noticeable damage to the first creatures. My Toms favor is showing as getting 600% more gold. It's almost like I'm level 1 but fighting level 100 characters. But they're showing as level 1 as well.

[eFerBen]

The reason is that you have not completed the prerequisites for the missions.

This was happening to me because one of the prerequisites was to complete 11 quests.

With all the prerequisites the monsters will die as easy as on the other quests.

[spderweb]

It was answered a few commetns ago actually. I needed to hit a bird to get some money in order to upgrade the character just once. I think it's actually a bug. The character and mouse have an attack level as though they have no favor, until you actually spend some amount of money, at which point it fixes the issue.

[eFerBen]

Terror In The Dark
- Must have completed "A Brief Escort through the Realms"
- Must have completed 11 Grand Tour adventures or variants

Unearthed Evil
- Must have completed "A Brief Escort through the Realms"
- Must have completed 11 Grand Tour adventures or variants


If you have the requisites an cant damage the monsters in the first stage then that is a bug, but if you do not have the requisistes and cant damage the monsters but you can advance by killing a bird then that is another bug because you should not be able to do that quest if you do not have the requisites.

If you have the requisites and play those quests normally then that is the intended behavior of the game, not a bug.

[Codename]

The adventures get harder as you progress further in a campaign.

If you find you are having too much difficulty with them, then you need to reset off the adventure and do some free plays to build up favor and gear before trying again.

[eFerBen]

Publicado originalmente por Codename:

The adventures get harder as you progress further in a campaign.

If you find you are having too much difficulty with them, then you need to reset off the adventure and do some free plays to build up favor and gear before trying again.

I was just commenting that I had the same issue of no being able to kill the monsters on those quests but that was because I did not have the prerrequisites to do those quests when i actually did have the the requisites there was no problem at all.

But I think that some users might have been able to do those quests (Terror In The Dark, Unearthed Evil) without having the requisites by killing a bird and upgrading the character and then being able to advance, so a posible bug in my opinion if that is true, I did no test that.

[spderweb]

Can we just lock this thread out now? People are going in circles and most don't understand what I originally was askign about. I know how mission unlocks work. If i needed a pre-requisite, I wouldn't be able to enter the mission at all.
The issue was that when you start that specific mission, the only way to advance is to either hit a bird to level the dwarf up at least one time, OR use a scroll to get money to do the same thing. To me, it looks like a bug because it';s the only time that the first level of a quest is virtually impossible unless you first level the dwarf by at least 1 level. It's acting as though there's no favor so you can't possibly defeat anything with a base level character. But once you pay to upgrade the dwarf to level 2, hgim and your mouse suddenly have Favor again and it's back to normal so that you can actually get through the first stage of monsters. It's a bug. Flat out. There's no doubt about it.

[eFerBen]

Publicado originalmente por spderweb:

Can we just lock this thread out now? People are going in circles and most don't understand what I originally was askign about. I know how mission unlocks work. If i needed a pre-requisite, I wouldn't be able to enter the mission at all.
The issue was that when you start that specific mission, the only way to advance is to either hit a bird to level the dwarf up at least one time, OR use a scroll to get money to do the same thing. To me, it looks like a bug because it';s the only time that the first level of a quest is virtually impossible unless you first level the dwarf by at least 1 level. It's acting as though there's no favor so you can't possibly defeat anything with a base level character. But once you pay to upgrade the dwarf to level 2, hgim and your mouse suddenly have Favor again and it's back to normal so that you can actually get through the first stage of monsters. It's a bug. Flat out. There's no doubt about it.

I know what you are talking about. The thing is that I also were able to start those missions without having the prerrequisites so that is the bug then, I just did not know about the bird thing, so I waited until I had the prerrequisites to do those quests.


I think that you did no understand what i was saying. What I was trying to do is give the reason to why you can not damage the monster in the first level, in my case it was because by the time I did not have Must have completed 11 Grand Tour adventures or variants but I was able to start the mission. So the bug in my opinion and by my experience is to be able to start the missions without the prerequisites.

In the case of starting the quests without the prerequisites then you can advance by killing a bird or using a potion to level up.

I just wrote this in case new players have this issue.

[ult1m8n00b]

I noticed those adventures are a lot more difficult than before, even though the prerequisites were completed before I could play them so it isn't a bug. However, if I'm understanding it right, the "Legendary Champions" Blessing from the Tomb of Annihilation tree will also apply to the Grand Tour missions as well. Maybe that could help somewhat?

[spderweb]

ah. so i guess there was a requirement that i didnt realize but then, there's still a bug, which is being able to access the level at all. Though I'm pretty sure I beat everything else before I started them, so I'm at a loss.

[spderweb]

yeah, you don't have to explain how the game works. the issue with what you wrote regarding using your mouse to help hold off while Bruenor kills them, is that when you first start out, your mouse and Bruenor do zero noticeable damage, no matter how fast you click. The only way to get things to work again is to already have money to upgrade something in order for th egame to actually recognize you have favor.

[spderweb]

Considering that the devs responded to this thread twice, they are clearly aware.

[spderweb]

you do as much damage as you can without favor if you were suddenly thrown into one of the higher end quests. So at level 1 of the quest, the dwarf will die the instant that the creature reaches him to attack. And no creature will have died. You can see that you have a money bonus for the favor. But when you mouse over where it shows you how much favor you have, it says 0. Once you kill a bird flying over, or use a scroll to get money, and buy any upgrade, the favor number goes to what it should be and you can wipe the floor with the level one creatures.

[eFerBen]

Publicado originalmente por Flammie:

Favor doesn't influence your damage. Favor only influences your gold drop.
You could have 200 billion favor, and would still die to one hit.

You can buy blessings with favor, that makes huge difference in DPS.

But I think that the issue here is that you are trying to do a quest that you are not suppossed to do yet, check the pre-requisites of the quest.

What is the name of the mission where you are having problems?

[eFerBen]

To be clear I have found the problem of making zero damage only when I started a quest without having all the pre-requisites.

So for me that is the bug, or maybe that is the intended behavior of the game because if you cant advance then you have to do other quests before that quest were you were doing zero damage.

So, if people are having this issue just check the pre-requisites

Edit: I just tested the mission "Escort to Waterdeep" without blessings and there is no "zero damage" but there is "very low" damage by clicking and by Bruenor even after damage blessings, so the easy thing to do is kill a bird and upgrade your character.


Final Note:
Zero Damage: You are in a quest without the pre-requisites. I had this problem in Terror in The Dark because you can try the mission without the two pre-requisites, I tried to do the mission knowing that I did not have the pre-requisites, and obviusly I was doing zero damage and could not advance that was normal to me. I did not try to do the bird thing here but I suppose in this case it will not work, maybe some one can test that.

Very Low Damage: You are in a hard level, get some gold by eliminating a bird and upgrade your characters.