Moonbeam or Bear form?

[Tommy]

What form is better for Tyril?

[MiNours]

Bear is better if you want use him for Tank and/or Attack ( if his dps is good with his gears )
( AND if you hope complete the inGame Achievement with his Ultimate Attack )

Moonbeam is better if you want use him for support and increase the DPs of you others Main DPS Guys

[Tommy]

ok thx

[Tommy]

so whos better at defense. nayeli or tyril's bear form?

[Angela™]

Originally posted by Tommy:

so whos better at defense. nayeli or tyril's bear form?

Nay is preferred due to her immensely useful tanking = dps abilities.

It's currently staple for reaching the higher levels.

[АlphaWhelp]

Early on Tyril is probably better. With high favor, without Nayeli as tank you probably have very hard time getting past level 120.

[Helen Carnate]

Literally, the only reason to use bear form for Tyril is to get the achievement for using his ultimate. Nayeli is far better once the mobs start stacking up.

[sethgaines]

Tyril's Moonbeam bonus doesn't show up on anyone but himself as an incoming buff. Is it actually doing something?

[GoatPimp]

Originally posted by sethgaines:

Tyril's Moonbeam bonus doesn't show up on anyone but himself as an incoming buff. Is it actually doing something?

I was wondering about the same thing... It looks like it's doing something... But I don't know how to do the math.

[thaunatas]

Moonbeam is a Damge All effect, thats why its only shown on himself. Everyone in the formation receives the bonus.

[GoatPimp]

Originally posted by thaunatas:

Moonbeam is a Damge All effect, thats why its only shown on himself. Everyone in the formation receives the bonus.

weird

[Duke Igthorn]

Originally posted by GoatPimp:

Originally posted by sethgaines:

Tyril's Moonbeam bonus doesn't show up on anyone but himself as an incoming buff. Is it actually doing something?

I was wondering about the same thing... It looks like it's doing something... But I don't know how to do the math.

I put in a ticket about this a lil while ago. they said they know its not showing but it IS working as intended.

[Kotli]

Originally posted by Flammie:

Well, the diamond shape formation isn't exactly the best to make use of Nayeli. I have to have her in the second row, to give the buff to the two dps in the third row. Since I got Barrowin, I've not bothered using Tyril. Barrowin's buff to my two dps is preferable to Tyril's abilities.
Really, I guess it's personal choice.

Tyril bear form is next to useless as in this game you end up hitting a wall because of lack of DPS means boss enrages and kills you.
Nay gives +% damage based on number of mobs hitting her. My Nay gives +166.66% damage per mob on her ATM. That is 6 mobs = 10x damage on everyone which far better than adding a second DPS that only does 40% of the damage of my main DPS.
As for Barrowin I like putting her in the middle in Torm's buffs 6 heroes, and in Kelemvor's she best used on the edge to charge up ultimates of guy in middle (which shouldnt be main DPS anyway).

[Count_Dandyman]

Originally posted by Flammie:

His Bear form has the most HP of any other champion, not exactly level for level though, but gold cost, for gold cost. At least, as far as I can be sure. He can survive alot longer, without other champion's abilities buffing him, than anyone else. So he is useful for that, which is what I used him for.

Sadly the flaw in the game design means it really doesn't matter how long he can survive when giving up the moonbeam just means you take so much longer to kill things that you earn less gpm and end up hitting a wall much earlier. Heck I have had him tanking in his moonbeam form and reached 175 with ease before resetting.