Is krond useless?

[LadyAyu]

o.o you lose a lot , and i do mean A LOT of dps if you take out asharra to bring krond so what would be the point of using him? maybe if in the future they add another hero who can kinda do same than asharra maybe it will be worth it , but so far i guess only use for cantripa chievement?

[76561198411442641]

引用自 flemmingrohde：

with my max dps setup i have 10 ultimates ranging between high e52 and low e53
if i swap in Krond instead of asharra my other ultimates drop to e49-e50 and Kronds is high e52
so instead of progressing i actually go back a few levels...

Pretty much what I see as well.

[JaxTek]

I have 200/300 for Krond's cantrips achievement and to complete the event. Which is missing? They don't seem to update outside the event, so I need 7500 tarts and three trips to make sure I have them all covered?
I'd rather not use him at all, but he does solo ok when trying to ensure he gets all the kills.

[flemmingrohde]

ok ill have to take back a lot of what i have said about Krond
he is indeed not useless

[em]

引用自 JaxTek：

I have 200/300 for Krond's cantrips achievement and to complete the event. Which is missing? They don't seem to update outside the event, so I need 7500 tarts and three trips to make sure I have them all covered?
I'd rather not use him at all, but he does solo ok when trying to ensure he gets all the kills.

They do update outside the event. The hardest one to get are the kills from the first cantrip. It doesn't do any AOE like the other two (the second one hits 3 random targets when he attacks, the third one hits nearby targets when he attacks, but the first one only hits the monster he just attacked). Because of that, you need to be on a level where Krond doesn't kill the monsters in one hit, but still have low enough hp to be killed by hit + cantrip. I just stuck him on a level by himself, and let it go for 5 or 10 minutes.

[JaxTek]

That was it, I didn't even see the way it worked (or didn't with everyone else).

[Rottenc]

Krond awaiting new champion with INT-boost (as Hitch friendly based on CHA)

[Davoodinator]

引用自 Rottenc：

Krond awaiting new champion with INT-boost (as Hitch friendly based on CHA)

hmmmm

[Psylisa]

Krond is now useless. RIP Ultimate ability of killing everything.

[Machiknight]

Wow this is startlingly painful to see how bad Krond is, from his gear selection to now his ULT being made to have no effect. For only the second character to be released, its PAINFUL to see. What's even worse, is that I spent money on him and now feel like it should be refunded.

[brcoutme]

引用自 flemmingrohde：

引用自 Psylisa：

Krond isn't useless.

You use him for his ultimate ability, which hits super hard. So hard in fact, it's probably 10x stronger than any of your other ults.

Put Nay in front and Krond in any support position. Let mobs stack up on Nay, then unleash the ult. You'll one-shot the lot. Probably one-shot bosses, too.

Start using Krond, and you'll probably progress another 10 levels after you hit a wall.

this is very far from my experience
my current kelemvor favor wall is level 173
with my max dps setup i have 10 ultimates ranging between high e52 and low e53
if i swap in Krond instead of asharra my other ultimates drop to e49-e50 and Kronds is high e52
so instead of progressing i actually go back a few levels...
this is with a Krond with 3 blue items and 3 purple items, the ult dmg item is blue so can become better, but not enough to outweigh my dps setup

if i try to use krond as my main DPS, as brcoutme sugests.
My dps before people start stacking on nayeli, drops from high e49 to e46
and even though his cantrip dmg may not be in the dps calculations, it does not in any way make up for the drop to 1/1000th of my dps setup's
so yeah he wont be getting any AOE kills unless i drop back a lot of levels
i will admit however that if i were to use minsc as my main dps i would also have to drop back a lot of levels to get any kills

Well I'm not sure what you mean by "e49, e50, e53, ext.", but I can only think of scientific notation meaning you're doing 3.45e50 or something which would be 3.45x10^50. If you're doing that much damage Nayeli's buff from being attacked may be irrelevant in which case my entire situation where Krond was useful will not happen, also by then Krond's ult will likely be irrelevant. I don't know if they should owe you a refund for his stuff at that point, it's not their fault you are beyond a point where Krond can be useful, but invested in him anyways assuming he would be. Even then he should be useful in the event where your Favor wall can not be that high immediately. It was actually in the event that I found this relatively unusual case of him being useful in the first place. Hopefully they will patch him (or new champions will synergize with him) so he can be useful later.

[Linea]

This game is all about stacking damage buffs on your damage dealers. Since there are superior damage dealers that also buff your team ever character that does not buff your team is useless.
They should do something like check every 2 weeks which are the least and most played characters and give the by far least played some more team buff skills while lowering the most played ones. Then repeat it until all get on an even level.

[LawCol]

引用自 Linea：

This game is all about stacking damage buffs on your damage dealers. Since there are superior damage dealers that also buff your team ever character that does not buff your team is useless.
They should do something like check every 2 weeks which are the least and most played characters and give the by far least played some more team buff skills while lowering the most played ones. Then repeat it until all get on an even level.

I don't want them to nerf the popular characters. I think a better idea would be to create future champions that synergise with the non-buffers. Such as a futrue buffer that increases damage for Intelligent characters. Also future swaps that shoudn't make non-buffers compete with buffers.

[em]

引用自 LawCol：

I don't want them to nerf the popular characters. I think a better idea would be to create future champions that synergise with the non-buffers. Such as a futrue buffer that increases damage for Intelligent characters. Also future swaps that shoudn't make non-buffers compete with buffers.

What I'd really like to see is the ability to have two (or more) parties running independently of each other in different places. Maybe the second party wouldn't be able to get gems or something, so that they aren't abused.

So right now, with the event, we could theoretically have 3 parties going. One on the Sword Coast to earn Torm's favor, one in Daggerford earning Kelevmor's favor, and one in the event earning Leira's favor. You wouldn't be able to use a champion busy in another adventure, when you start a new adventure.

Then the game really does become about choices. We don't have 18 champions right now, much less 28, so which formation do you fill out all the way, or do you put an even number of champions in each of them? Eventually we'll have more champions, but that won't diminish the choices we'd have to make. Nayeli can only be your front line champinon in one formation, who do you put there in the second one? How do you split your dps champs up between the formations, do you have all the heavy htiters in one, and those who don't matter much in the other?

If they do that, best and worst doesn't matter as much as your goal for each adventure. All of them will get used, and the formations will get much more interesting. And synergies between champions will be more important than gear.

[Shiny The Devil Cat]

What do you think at this moment? Is there a chance for Krond in the future?
Have developers said something during the last Twitch stream about upcoming champions or Krond?
I don't want to use the same champions all the time, so I need new support champions who will buff other races than (boring) humans and other attributes than CHA.

[raekuul]

Krond has very good potential but you can't use him and Asharra at the same time, which is what most of the problem is. If he used any other slot at all this wouldn't be any kind of debate since then you wouldn't have to sacrifice a general party buff for an expensive DPSer. His cantrip buff at level 135 should in theory be useful (especially if it's multiplicative, which would make boss battles a question of if Nay can last long enough for Krond to overpower), but it only applies to his cantrip damage.

And don't give me "that's against Lore," favored enemy is only supposed to affect the ranger's combat prowess, not the entire party's, and yet Minsc is indispensible for any variant that sends a specifc class of enemy at you regularly (looking at you, Stealthy Rogues).