upgrading weapon to 11++?

[Bacuda]

I just finished the story and went back in time and farmed a blue rose mk3, I upgraded it to 11+, but i dont see a option to get it to 11++, is there a way to do that?

also a different question, which chip stats on ur secondary weapon work for ur main wep aswell, I heard exp gain does, is there anything else?

[さまよう侍]

I didn't know Blue Rose comes with rank 11

[Bacuda]

it dropped as rank 10, I upgraded it once and its 11+ now, just wondering if it also can get to 11++

[さまよう侍]

11++ means you're looking for rank 13 Blue Rose. That's a no.

[Guh~hey~hey~♫]

Rank11 is the highest rank.
The blue rose is from dlc 3, where the maximum rank is 10. (DLC1 rank 8, DLC2 rank 9, DLC4 rank 10, DLC4 rank 11).
So your blue rose+ is rank 11.
And no you cant make a blue rose++, there's no rank above 11 in the game yet

[Bacuda]

Ahh okay, I'm only playing this game for like 4 days so I am still figuring things out, so I guess the + stands for upgrade then? like a 9 will go to 10+, then 11++ I guess, does that also mean that if you get a weapon drop that is already a ++, you cant upgrade it anymore?

[さまよう侍]

Originally posted by Bacuda:

Ahh okay, I'm only playing this game for like 4 days so I am still figuring things out, so I guess the + stands for upgrade then? like a 9 will go to 10+, then 11++ I guess, does that also mean that if you get a weapon drop that is already a ++, you cant upgrade it anymore?

yup, if you get a weapon with ++ means it's already max Rank.
Also, 9+ = 10 and 9++ = 11. 11 is highest at the moment. your logic in notation is completely wrong.

[Bacuda]

gotcha, well, kinda, its wrong only because the max rank doesnt go that far I guess, but 11 isnt the highest rank then the way you say it, since i have a 11+ which in your words makes it a 12 right? so 12 is highest right now then?

[Guh~hey~hey~♫]

no. You dont have a 11+. that doesnt exist. Maximum is 11, 10+ or 9++.

[Bacuda]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1820476099

This is my weapon, it´s Rank 11 and has a plus so I guess that makes it a 11+, or am I missing something?

[Guh~hey~hey~♫]

No.

It is rank 11 BECAUSE it has this + next to his name.

The Blue Rose Mk3 is a rank 10 weapon. The Blue Rose Mk3+ is a rank 11 weapon. There's no Blue Rose Mk3++ in the game.

P.S.: Nice blue rose BTW, a shame it doesnt have auto-reload, but ammo increase is a good alternative when you dont have the choice.

[Bacuda]

Ah okay, it's a bit confusing but I get it now, I just saw a 11 and a + so I figured it's 11+ hehe

And thanks, I knew what I wanted for 7 out of 8 stats, increased ammo is something I figured was okay for the 8th, didnt know auto-reload is better or I would have continued farming, maybe I will look for one of those if it's a lot better,
also my chip stats are capped at 35.80% for crit rate for example, but I read somewhere the cap of that should be 44.50%, I guess I have to do something to get a higher cap, but I'll figure that out eventually, atm I'm trying to get the true ending.

You think it's worth it to farm another blue rose to get auto reload instead of increased ammo?

[Guh~hey~hey~♫]

Depends if you wanna spend the time doing so. If you farm it at the second point in the DLC3 dungeon it's fairly fast to farm (fast travel untill the drone spawn, kill it, rince and repeat), way easier than farming a moonlight.

But yeah, I farmed and upgraded a lot of different guns, and auto-reload is definitely way better at improving DPS than ammo increase (some player also give up on all damage Vs chips to get both ammo increase and auto-reload instead).
Also know that auto-reload can activate while using a skill when your magazine is empty too. With that chip maxed (74.5%) you almost never need to stop shooting to reload your gun.

The cap of chips depends on Lisbeth smith level. You need to upgrade her to rank 12 to reach the maximum cap.

Here an example of the maximum cap for most usefull chips:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1804748673

[Bacuda]

Wow nice weapon, that has like perfect stats.

I was just looking into auto-reload and it does look pretty good, only thing is, I am dual wielding, and from the video I saw, the auto reload is bugged, if the last bullet doesn't come from your main hand weapon then you will not get the chance for the auto reload proc, but it's an old video so maybe they fixed it, if they did not then I wont bother getting it, if it is fixed then I'll farm another.

I actually just read on the same video they did fix it, so I guess I'll be farming :P

[Guh~hey~hey~♫]

Ah. Yes.
When dual wielding, your off-hand weapon has no chips. But since what activate auto-reload is using skills or attacks, it should work no matter what you do as long as you got a weapon with the chip equipped in one hand.
For example, it has a chance to activate with a dash attack, for charging your weapon with toxic/fire blast and also for shooting that toxic/fire blast. So there's plenty of different ways to have it to activate.