Gameplay pretty........boring?

[Maniac]

Im not sure if im playing it wrong but for some reason the whole gameplay for me is grinding mobs, get more exp and level maybe a better weapon and then proceeed in the story which pretty much is only grinding through enemys with autoaim and perma shooting.

is there anything else beside that?
if this is really the whole gameplay im not sure if its worth to play the game through

[AN94]

do the same thing again and again alot + boring story, the only ok thing is you can make your own anime character. I said ok instead of good is cuz of the colors changing are totally suck

[Maniac]

Originally posted by An:

do the same thing again and again alot + boring story, the only ok thing is you can make your own anime character. I said ok instead of good is cuz of the colors changing are totally suck

damn, good i got it for discounted price. would never be worth the full price.

was just hoping the battle system would be a bit more interesting.

[TrioAngelamVA.WliaAlfaD.A.S]

its not bad but i kinda hopped it would be more like God eater 2 in terms of co-op

[SuperCrumpets]

Turn off the bullet circle

[mugenjintopaz]

Originally posted by TrioAngelS.WliaAlfaD.A.S:

its not bad but i kinda hopped it would be more like God eater 2 in terms of co-op

its possibly worse take expectations n deeply lower them

[Drakzen]

At least they don't force you to be Kirito, I do hope they continue to make games where you play as your own character and not just Kirito but with a play made appearance.

[Null_User]

At higher levels, the opponent combinations and their sheer firepower + defenses will force you to think more strategically. You can also remove the auto aim thing, which I recommend to fire at weak spots without having to use the aim button.

[Electro]

Originally posted by Hanuke:

At higher levels, the opponent combinations and their sheer firepower + defenses will force you to think more strategically.

From the moment the game came out till now I have played the exact same way.

Pump AGI to move fast.
Buff up
Hold down R1 while altering my movement between going left or moving towards the right.
Fall asleep till everything is dead.
Win
Repeat the above till I hit newer level caps, ArFA-sys Credit investment caps, or get the drops you want.

The only real difference is that the copy paste enemies take slightly longer to kill at higher levels while you have stronger weapons to compensate, and that the enemies have different coloured materials lol

Really enjoyable DLC's killing the exact same enemies that are in the base game besides the 1 extra boss per DLC.

[cowboy kyle]

Nah man. I've got 670 hours in this game and about 450-500 hours was just running in a circle killing mobs to grind.

[Null_User]

Originally posted by Electro:

Originally posted by Hanuke:

At higher levels, the opponent combinations and their sheer firepower + defenses will force you to think more strategically.

From the moment the game came out till now I have played the exact same way.

Pump AGI to move fast.
Buff up
Hold down R1 while altering my movement between going left or moving towards the right.
Fall asleep till everything is dead.
Win
Repeat the above till I hit newer level caps, ArFA-sys Credit investment caps, or get the drops you want.

The only real difference is that the copy paste enemies take slightly longer to kill at higher levels while you have stronger weapons to compensate, and that the enemies have different coloured materials lol

Really enjoyable DLC's killing the exact same enemies that are in the base game besides the 1 extra boss per DLC.

And what levels are we talking about? I'm talking about extreme mode and about places where different kinds of enemies attack at once. Sure, there may be reasons why I believe someone may find even the hardest enemy here boring.

One, you are for this or that reason, extremely good at this game. So good that you naturally avoid getting touched by anything the enemy throws at you. Not everyone can be like that. I admit I'm in the lowest tier of gamers, so I find a challenge where others find a boring grind.

Two, I understand that the same enemies will do the exact same patterns from easy to hardest, which is a flaw of the game (and many games). So memorizing an enemy pattern will of course make the enemy eaier to beat. It's also why the challenge does not come from a single enemy type, but from combinations of enemies all doing their patterns at the same time at you.

As for copy paste enemies? I even said that in my review of the game, and I also find it as a flaw. Meaning, I agree with you in a few things as well.

[Electro]

Originally posted by Hanuke:

Originally posted by Electro:

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What levels? All levels. What difficulty? All difficulty, including Extreme.

Playing on Extreme only really does 3 things.

1: It makes the enemies in general higher level, therefore more hp/defense/damage. Otherwise there is no difference in how they fight and how you kill them. But playing normally you would also have more hp/defense/damage.

2: Higher level weapon drops and weapons in chests.

3: Extreme also just increases the amount of enemies in fixed locations. It's a noticable difference, but not enough to really change how I play. Only my AI struggles if I let them go at it alone and I just watch, because they are forced to roll around like crazy and not fire back. And even if they do shoot back, they only do it in small bursts, and spend lots of time just moving around and swapping weapons.

And these different combinations (or lack thereof) doesn't really change anything for me.

Otherwise the way I deal with them is the exact same. I shoot while moving. The moving part means I don't get hit because I step to the side of the incoming bullets. Not to sound like a smartass or anything but I don't really see the game is hard unless you stand around and let them hit you. Only in BoB have I ever dealt with bs insta kills. But screw BoB if they don't add new weapons because Rank 11 will come this month and R12 will come for sure next year with the DLC, making the current BoB weapons pointless.
But back on topic and ignoring the whole BoB.

Normal difficulty mode
Enemy A has an AR and shoots at me. I shoot back at it while moving.

Enemy B has sniper rifle and shoots at me. I shoot back at it while moving.

(goes to Extreme DLC 3)
Enemy A and B are together and they shoot at me with higher stats... I shoot back at them both while moving.

To further prove my point, I even had a full playthrough on Extreme with a fresh level 1 character to play as my own LLENN (another high AGI character) and because I thought I could make Lisbeth shop max rank in 1 playthrough if I just do Extreme). Gave myself some weapons and credit (sold drops from Genbu) via warehouse, and my experience was near identical to playing level 255 in Easy mode. Sure my AI partners would always be dead. But... do they ever do anything besides buff me, heal eachother and roll around reviving eachother?

The closest thing I ever thought could be challenging at first till I was used to it was Makai Type XX and Makai Type XXX back when I was below level 150 and I always went for the sword guy first and kept running out of bullets lol. This is honestly to me the only good fight. But when you really think about it. It's REALLY PATHETIC. The boss is basically just 2 oversized NPC humans. Talk about lazy.

[AN94]

Originally posted by Electro:

And these different combinations (or lack thereof) doesn't really change anything for me.

Otherwise the way I deal with them is the exact same. I shoot while moving. The moving part means I don't get hit because I step to the side of the incoming bullets.

When you play again in the same area alot, you will remember where enemies spawn, first time playing no one will know when or where they spawn like in remnant wasteland, alot of snipers on top of buildings or tall rocks, new players will easily ignore them and get sniped.

[Electro]

Originally posted by An:

Originally posted by Electro:

And these different combinations (or lack thereof) doesn't really change anything for me.

Otherwise the way I deal with them is the exact same. I shoot while moving. The moving part means I don't get hit because I step to the side of the incoming bullets.

When you play again in the same area alot, you will remember where enemies spawn, first time playing no one will know when or where they spawn like in remnant wasteland, alot of snipers on top of buildings or tall rocks, new players will easily ignore them and get sniped.

Maybe you guys play on 60FPS or something? But snipers shoot slowly like a full 2 seconds of prediction lines before they fire. Unless you aren't paying attention they are pretty easy to dodge.

Speaking of dodging. Even if you move slow. Literally spamming jump helps avoid so much damage lol. Jumping also means you don't have to stop firing xD

[Null_User]

Originally posted by Electro:

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Then I suppose it's the first option I thought about. You are too good for this game. Remember that what you may find easy, others may find hard. Yes, that will automatically mean (as rude as it may sound to others) that you are plainly better than them. No way around that other than some people will have to work much harder to catch up to you. BUT, that does not mean that because the game is easy for you it SHOULD be easy for others. This is a recurring misconception players who are good at games have. As I said to someone else. Some people have it. Some people don't have it, and that's how it all rolls with nature.

[Null_User]

Originally posted by Electro:

Originally posted by An:

When you play again in the same area alot, you will remember where enemies spawn, first time playing no one will know when or where they spawn like in remnant wasteland, alot of snipers on top of buildings or tall rocks, new players will easily ignore them and get sniped.

Maybe you guys play on 60FPS or something? But snipers shoot slowly like a full 2 seconds of prediction lines before they fire. Unless you aren't paying attention they are pretty easy to dodge.

And yeah. I DO play on 60 fps. No other way for me to play since 30 FPS will cause me a headache...