Gigas Cedar Sword Memory Chips & Build - Damage Discussing

[Methapon2001]

The Memory Chips I have on my Gigas Cedar G4 Right Now is this

Damage vs Mech +29.50%
Damage vs Humanoids +29.50%
Damage vs Lifeforms +29.50%
Damage from Behind +44.50%
Damage At Max HP +50%
Physical Damage +32% --- Sword Skill Benefit
Weapon Damage +26%
Critical Damage +50%

my damage can reach > 2 M on critical hit with DEBUFF

Now is the Question:

I saw someone in multiplayer that can actually do more damage than that WITHOUT DEBUFF

any suggest?

[sitp]

有修改器的说，打共战偶尔会遇见

[Methapon2001]

Hmm I used Google translate '有修改器的说，打共战偶尔会遇见'

Do you mean they modify a weapon and memory chips to overspec?

I doubt it so. He can do about 2x of my damage. I'm not sure if he modify or a just a MAX Sword Build and memory chip.

[Methapon2001]

And thats why I want to discuss is there any other memory chip that can do more damage than this.

[Guh~hey~hey~♫]

Lol...
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1762533974

P.S.: No it no longer works, it has been patched.

P.S.2:
- You dont need the 3 damage versus, make 3 sword instead. Though you need critical rate.
- You can combine damage max HP and damage low HP, they work analogically so if you got both, you always get the maximum damage bonus, no matter your HPs level.
- Chips from the bounty reward weapons are above the cap.

P.S.3: - The guy you saw might have been using a hacked weapon.... (take a look at my character costum in the picture below).
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1766249595

[Methapon2001]

Originally posted by Guh~heh~heh~♫:

Lol...
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1762533974

P.S.: No it no longer works, it has been patched.

P.S.2:
- You dont need the 3 damage versus, make 3 sword instead. Though you need critical rate.
- You can combine damage max HP and damage low HP, they work analogically so if you got both, you always get the maximum damage bonus, no matter your HPs level.
- Chips from the bounty reward weapons are above the cap.

P.S.3: - The guy you saw might have been using a hacked weapon.... (take a look at my character costum in the picture below).
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1766249595

OK, thanks. And now about the memery chip that you tell me that I dont need 3 versus so

Damage off Guard
Damage at Max HP
Damage when near Death
Danage from Behind
Weapon Attack
Physical Attack
Critical Damage
Critical Rate

so memory chips should be like this? I'll farming it again so thanks

[Guh~hey~hey~♫]

Off guard would be useless on a sword. It only works when you attack an ennemy that havent noticed you yet, so with a sword it's completely useless.
Kinda the same thing with damage on weak spot since you hardly can hit the weak spot on most ennemies with a sword (at a few exceptions), and when you do you cant do it from behind (losing that chip bonus which is higher than damage on weak spot).

You dont need 3 damage Vs, but you need at least one...

And swapping 1 or 2 damage versus is mostly for optimized damages, because there's no ennemy that belong to more than 1 category, so basically 2 of the chip slot on your sword are just useless. When you put only 2 damage Vs only 1 chip slot is useless...

It's something that's even more important on a gun (that can crit), because on a gun there's a bunch of other chips that can be very usefull to improve your dps (auto-reload, explosive damages, etc..) than on a sword.

What I did is to make a sword specifically for figthing each type of boss (so one with mechs, since most bosses are mechs, which also happen to be the most common and higher defense/HP ennemies, one with lifeforms and eventually one with humanoid only for BoB), then replaced the 2 other damage Vs with damage low HP and the weapon art gauge charge rate (but it's more for dps than for damage per hit).

Though it's a useless combination in PvP or BoB, but I rarely ever used a sword for BoB....

[Methapon2001]

Originally posted by Guh~heh~heh~♫:

Off guard would be useless on a sword. It only works when you attack an ennemy that havent noticed you yet, so with a sword it's completely useless.
Kinda the same thing with damage on weak spot since you hardly can hit the weak spot on most ennemies with a sword (at a few exceptions), and when you do you cant do it from behind (losing that chip bonus which is higher than damage on weak spot).

You dont need 3 damage Vs, but you need at least one...

And swapping 1 or 2 damage versus is mostly for optimized damages, because there's no ennemy that belong to more than 1 category, so basically 2 of the chip slot on your sword are just useless. When you put only 2 damage Vs only 1 chip slot is useless...

It's something that's even more important on a gun (that can crit), because on a gun there's a bunch of other chips that can be very usefull to improve your dps (auto-reload, explosive damages, etc..) than on a sword.

What I did is to make a sword specifically for figthing each type of boss (so one with mechs, since most bosses are mechs, which also happen to be the most common and higher defense/HP ennemies, one with lifeforms and eventually one with humanoid only for BoB), then replaced the 2 other damage Vs with damage low HP and the weapon art gauge charge rate (but it's more for dps than for damage per hit).

Though it's a useless combination in PvP or BoB, but I rarely ever used a sword for BoB....

I found a comment in the youtube someone reply said that Damage Off Guard not just you attack an enemy that haven't noticed you but also when the enemy not target you too maybe it will be usefull more than the other think it about this chip. well, I'll try check it whether it usefull or not later. thanks so much!

I got a new sword now and my dps 2x than before now.

I'll end this discussion. thanks so much.

[Methapon2001]

Alright as Result Vorpal strike at 275 bosses can reach more than 3M

Sword skill Sharp nail can go for more than 2M per hit.

And My DPS 2x than before right now :)

[Guh~hey~hey~♫]

you want a small trick, level tactical roll to rank 4. It's a very good filler skill for sword and gun...
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1828447680

[Kyo-]

Off guard is more useful for sword than gun, especially single hit sword skills. If you down the enemy, they will take off guard damage, its pretty clear on big bosses. Paralyzed, however, doesn’t work that way.

There are skills and chips that allow you to deal off guard dmg often by decreasing enemy attention. From enemy mechanic aspects, if you hit enemy between each action they performed, sometimes you see they stop moving or shooting. It’s where you get bonus dmg for this type. It’s considered as a type of burst attack, which only useful for skills than regular hits.

Using tactic roll with camo or decreasing enemy attention will likely confuse enemy (only work when there are more than one dps). For online, off guard usually bugged because of connectivity which they don’t always deal off guard all times even when you try to slowly hit them to cancel their animation (took about 5-10s for change focus on other enemies)

[Methapon2001]

Originally posted by Kyo-:

Off guard is more useful for sword than gun, especially single hit sword skills. If you down the enemy, they will take off guard damage, its pretty clear on big bosses. Paralyzed, however, doesn’t work that way.

There are skills and chips that allow you to deal off guard dmg often by decreasing enemy attention. From enemy mechanic aspects, if you hit enemy between each action they performed, sometimes you see they stop moving or shooting. It’s where you get bonus dmg for this type. It’s considered as a type of burst attack, which only useful for skills than regular hits.

Using tactic roll with camo or decreasing enemy attention will likely confuse enemy (only work when there are more than one dps). For online, off guard usually bugged because of connectivity which they don’t always deal off guard all times even when you try to slowly hit them to cancel their animation (took about 5-10s for change focus on other enemies)

Thanks for the Info!

[GuSheEdeR]

optical damage is not useful?

[Guh~hey~hey~♫]

Originally posted by GuSheEdeR:

optical damage is not useful?

it only affect optical guns.