Automatic Song Generator System

[[SoTu] FreeZe]

First and foremost, I run a NGC (Network Gaming Center) here in Memphis, Tn. and I have over 30 gaming stations from pc's to PS2..and 3 Vives and a PS4 vr, and I purchased a beat saber game for each Vive. This game is amazing and my customers love it, as I do. It is truly a workout, with the right song, without knowing you're working out. My suggestion is that adding a auto song generator and it works like this: You download song to Auto generator and it automatically lines the beats with the song so that we will surely know, all songs through the generator is perfectly synced. Plus, it allows anyone to just add a song and not worry about all the configurations needed to customize a song, it will already be done for you. Some songs are explicit, such as Nikki Minaj Anaconda, which is an awesome beat saber song, however, I can't play some of these songs during the game for the lyrics are pretty rough. With the song generator, we would be able to add the radio version of the song and play it with a more family oriented group. I would like to know some of your thoughts on this. I can see you charging an additional $4.99 for this software and I believe almost everyone will be glad to purchase it.

PS: if there is something already out available please let me know. Thanks in Advance.

[nul]

There is no automatic song generator and there probably wont be one. The community has been making custom songs though.
https://beatsaver.com/

The reason an automatic song generator wont exist is because it will always be wrong. For games like Audiosurf and Beat Hazard, it's fine to be messy and even 'wrong' in some places because the gameplay is different. And for the most part, they're only based on intensity and just about any sound that pops up in the song.

When it comes to games like Rock Band, osu!, Step Mania, and Beat Saber. Automatic song generation simply wont work. In order to keep people interested, the patterns must be unique, but possible. And at the same time, the game also needs to figure out what beats of the song it should apply the boxes to. And then it would also need to figure out how to also add other game features in, like obstacles and bombs. While it seems bombs are pretty well optional, most if not all songs include at least one obstacle.

I know, BoxVR does in fact include automatic song generation. But it only proves me right. What it gets right, at least, is automatically calculating the bpm and the starting offset. Intensity is too easy to figure out to give it any credit. But what it gets horribly wrong is the uniqueness in patterns. It has just a couple of sets of very long premade patterns that it strings in based on the 'intensity' of the song, and even randomizes which ones it picks, not even basing it on the music itself. It only took me an hour to memorize every pattern it uses. And when it comes down to beat map complexity, Beat Saber is even more complicated than BoxVR. It would be extremely difficult or actually impossible to generate fun songs for people to play.

[[SoTu] FreeZe]

Well said, I guess I better get to learning how to create some cool beats for the game. Regardless, the best 'beat' song ever created. And thanks for your immediate response.

[tony_statman]

In defense of automatic generation: there was an automatic step generator for Strpmania, and it was pretty good. It's true no program will ever match the cleverness of the Gangnam Style map :) :) but there is a lot to be said as a party game where music is chosen from the guests' favorites

[jczarnikow]

hey i was thinking about this auto generator too. has anyone played audioshield?
Audio shield is like beat saber and is a workout too, however this game has a built in song generator and all you have to do is search on youtube for a song while your in the game. after you choose a song, if it hasnt already been uploaded to the game servers itself it will upload it and generate the colors for you however it might take a minute or two. but basically is what i am saying is that beat saber should incorporate this into there game too and it works very well.

[elliotttate]

There's actually about 3 or 4 ways to auto generate a BeatSaber track. But... I should warn you, Beat Saber maps are a bit more complex than generating a step mania or even Audioshield map. Here's an example of JUST generating the rhythm for the BeatSaber map: https://youtu.be/HAO4lHi1ZLk

Then you'd have to go back, delete notes, add directions and choreograph it from that point to make it any fun to play. Hit me up on the Discord (I'm an admin there, so should be easy to find) if you want more info about the generator tools!

[[SoTu] FreeZe]

Bet that bruh, I would luv to try and create my own beats. I run a network gaming store and when I get kids in, I need clean tracks they can enjoy. I sent you a friend request and maybe then we can get on discord and go from there. Would appreciate your help in learning how to create beats.

[shad]

Originally posted by SoTu FreeZe:

Bet that bruh, I would luv to try and create my own beats. I run a network gaming store and when I get kids in, I need clean tracks they can enjoy. I sent you a friend request and maybe then we can get on discord and go from there. Would appreciate your help in learning how to create beats.

The best way to get new songs is to head over to the beatsaver website. New songs get released each day from what I've seen. I can't say on the quality of the map though.

[Brain Dead]

The level of programming required to make this happen would take longer than you might think. It would have to be done through AI and good luck training any AI to make maps for a game that it can't play. (Yes this is an oversimplification but I do know what i am talking about.)

[shad]

Originally posted by Brain Dead:

The level of programming required to make this happen would take longer than you might think. It would have to be done through AI and good luck training any AI to make maps for a game that it can't play. (Yes this is an oversimplification but I do know what i am talking about.)

Some apps made by the community for lighting can make lights in the background by placed notes, but this is for when you do work. I have seen someone say they might work on an auto lighting program that works in the same way audio visualizers work. I'd imagine this can be done in the same way, only with blocks and extra programming.

[Bounty_V]

Add me to the "I want an auto map generator" group. The music I listen to is very niche so if I want to enjoy the music I like, I'd have to map the songs myself and I'm horrible at it. Maybe I don't feel like investing hours/days to map a song and just wanna hop on something and hear my songs and do stuff to it. Beat Saber isn't that game for me, but I'd certainly like it to be. Until then I'll just keep checking newest songs on Beatsaver regularly in hopes someone ended up mapping a song I like... There's plenty of songs so don't get me wrong, they just aren't songs I like enough to enjoy playing through the maps...even if the maps are good if I don't like the song I'm not having fun.

[Pixel Bear]

There is a website called beatsage.com that you can use to auto-generate some good beat maps. It even lets you select which difficulties there will be.