in game custom song support

[HunterAnubis]

Srsly WHY havent you done this already?
Ive got onver 200 songs in a custom song folder but with modsabre down their just pointless 1s and 0s
Mod sabre is basicly whats keeping your income comming since I dont see ppl wanting this for your 20 songs

[Alternity]

You can install the custom song plugin manually, they are not pointless ones and zeros.

[Zargsch]

Probably because officially supporting custom songs that contain unlicensed music isn't going to end well for them.

[CrazyKing321]

that is like saying why don't steam allow pirated music it will make people more happy.

just download the right plugin in and manually install the song's you want it's not that hard.

[PROkrastinator]

They could do it like do it like Chiptune Champion adding a workshop with just the levels where one can link song downloads externally.

I don't get why it's such a big deal. There are totally legal sites like Bandcamp where artist's provide their songs. Not everything that is downloaded is pirated.

[Alternity]

Dr. Arschko .med eredeti hozzászólása:

I don't get why it's such a big deal. There are totally legal sites like Bandcamp where artist's provide their songs. Not everything that is downloaded is pirated.

The artists on Bandcamp agrees that you can download the songs from Bandcamp website. The problem here is that the label/artist needs to want their songs to be used in Beat Saber. Being able to download the songs from Bandcamp, Spitify, iTunes, Youtube etc does not mean you can legally download songs for Beat Saber. It's the same deal with Rock Band: every Rock Band games you had to pay to export your songs to the new one, and not every songs would be exported because some of the artists/labels did not want to renew the contract.

[ScruffyNote]

Lol... all of these armchair lawyers here. Beat Saber can't include unlicensed music. However, creating a game that allows users to add and play with their own music is not illegal. For ♥♥♥♥'s sake, look at AudioShield and Soundboxing if you need some examples of VR games that allow other songs.

Audica seems to be handling this pretty well. You just drag and drop custom songs into a folder and you're good to go.

There is no reason that the devs can't support custom songs the same exact way Audica does. I imagine they're worried that people will map the paid songs.

[Alternity]

Audica does not support custom songs and we have every reason to believe that they will do something about it before getting out of early access. (Doesn't mean that they will, this assumption is based on older Harmonix games)

As for games like AudioShield (auto generated "beat maps") they create very bad content, it's not even close to be enjoyable when you compare these to handcrafted work, as they create very awkward timed notes (and sometimes very akward patterns).

[ScruffyNote]

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As for games like AudioShield (auto generated "beat maps") they create very bad content, it's not even close to be enjoyable when you compare these to handcrafted work, as they create very awkward timed notes (and sometimes very akward patterns).

What the ♥♥♥♥ is your point? I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ if you think it's awkward. The point that I'm making is that it's completely legal to allow users to play a rhythm game with their own content.

Also, the other example I gave, Sound Boxing, includes custom beat maps. There's nothing illegal about it.

The only thing stopping the Beat Saber devs from natively supporting custom songs is themselves. No matter how much you want to believe otherwise, there are no laws preventing them from allowing users to add their own custom content.

[Alternity]

Did you ever made custom maps for a song? Distributing custom charts/maps without distributing the audio is very annoying for the people that downloads them as they usually have to be synced at the user's end. ScoreHero did this when GH customs started and it was not very popular, places like FoF forums quickly went full because they allowed to share audio.

The reality is the user does not want to spend time syncing maps to songs.

Also my point was auto generated beat maps are bad, and it's a fact, not an opinion.

[ScruffyNote]

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The reality is the user does not want to spend time syncing maps to songs.

They don't need to. They can play the beat maps provided by other users.

Here's a scenario for you:
Beat Saber devs allows custom content so that users can map their own music. Users compose their own music and create maps and share them legally with other users. Some users also map licensed music and share it with other users. It is illegal for those users to do so with licensed music, but it doesn't impact the devs of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game, because they added the feature to be used within legal means.

Look into the legalities of console emulators if you don't understand the applicability of that scenario.

[Alternity]

I don't think it would be that much popular as I doubt many artists would create (and we're talking both music and beat maps, which is quite alot of work considering just the beat map can take 10+ hours just for expert+ to create...) music AND maps for the game. They could impliment it and see where it goes but I doubt creating this platform would be a good way to spend their time (especially considering how small their team is and what has to be done with the game still).

Also, that would only work with artists that aren't on a label, or labels that are pretty generous by nature, as in general label's word > artist's word, and not alot of labels are happy with giving away free stuff.

[ScruffyNote]

All of the custom content that people are enjoying right now would be available if the devs supported custom content. (see the scenario in my previous comment)

[Alternity]

I mean technically they can make a plugin of some sort to allow natively to load custom maps, sure, that act itself is not illegal. But directly allowing your game to be used for custom songs hurts the relations they have/can have with labels. Rocksmith, Rock Band, Guitar Hero and probably alot of other games already spoke on the subject, they don't even allow natively custom songs and they got refused by quite a few labels just because custom songs are a thing.

I don't think it's a good idea. Here's an example with Ubisoft speaking on the matter:

http://i.imgur.com/ELGxZXF.png

[ScruffyNote]

No... This is why those devs don't allow custom songs:
https://imgur.com/gallery/L5Zy5Vt

[Alternity]

I could comment on it if the link was a working one...