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Custom Songs always on Harder Difficulties
Okay, in my defense, I'm no expert, and I don't do well on hard mode. I see a lot of Custom songs for beat saber that are mainly on Hard, Expert, or Expert+ and I feel bothered to play those because I just can't do that. If I practice yeah, but my reaction time isn't good, and I can't practice if I can't learn the songs block patterns, it's just too fast.

Other thing, my favorite songs are mainly on Hard or Expert and that is a let down for me, because I wanna play those, but I can't cause they're on Hard or Expert. Like, I get there's plenty of players who can do those high challenges, but not me, so I don't really get why those creators are always putting it on Hard? Not everyone can do hard, lol! Am I the only one that wants to get better, but can't because I don't get a chance to learn with how fast the blocks go?
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Jesse. May 1, 2022 @ 3:10am 
You could try using beatsage. It's an AI that can make levels out of songs you put in. It has settings for difficulty and other stuff. The quality varies from song to song though. :lunar2020thinkingtiger:
Alkor May 1, 2022 @ 6:33am 
You can also use JDFixer to tweak the reaction speed as you need. I use it a lot when blocks come too fast or too slow, it's a recuring issue for me. It doesn't change the time when you need to hit the block, just the speed and apparition point of the blocks. For example, if some music have a 510ms reaction speed, I won't be able to hit them, but if I increase it to 700, I can.
You can also use the practice mode and nofail modifier to speed up or down the music, if learning is the issue for you.
deadnori May 1, 2022 @ 6:49am 
a lot of players map maps for their own skill level. I'm one of those people. All of my maps are Expert+. I would rather make maps that I can enjoy and that feel at my skill level than easier maps because they feel more boring. My recommendation is to just practice a lot until you are at that skill level. Nobody said you had to play those maps to get better
Archie May 1, 2022 @ 2:26pm 
you can make your own maps for the songs you like. make them as easy or as hard as you like. a lot of songs i like have really ♥♥♥♥ mapping. so i took matters into my own hands and started making my own maps which are of course catered towards my own tastes and styles. it will take some after but after maybe a day or two you will get the hang of mapping. the mapping tool i use is called mediocre map assistant 2. give it a try.
deadnori May 2, 2022 @ 2:53pm 
Originally posted by bunkertie:
you can make your own maps for the songs you like. make them as easy or as hard as you like. a lot of songs i like have really ♥♥♥♥ mapping. so i took matters into my own hands and started making my own maps which are of course catered towards my own tastes and styles. it will take some after but after maybe a day or two you will get the hang of mapping. the mapping tool i use is called mediocre map assistant 2. give it a try.
chromapper is way more efficient and easy to use.
Silidra May 2, 2022 @ 5:42pm 
I highly recommend ignoring harder difficulty songs for the time being and focusing your attention on A, songs you enjoy, and B, songs you can do a full clear on.

If you're playing maps in one of those two categories, you're doing just fine. When you can full clear maps consistently, bump up to the next difficulty and get a full clear there.

Eventually you will find yourself in expert difficulty and your arms will start moving without you sending conscious input to them.

And if people keep only mapping Expert+? ♥♥♥♥ em. There are a lot of very good mappers out there that map multiple different difficulty levels, and those maps are a lot more popular than some E+ edgelord that excels on a particular style of map wanting to flex on other edgelords.
Steel May 4, 2022 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by Silidra:
I highly recommend ignoring harder difficulty songs for the time being and focusing your attention on A, songs you enjoy, and B, songs you can do a full clear on.

If you're playing maps in one of those two categories, you're doing just fine. When you can full clear maps consistently, bump up to the next difficulty and get a full clear there.

Eventually you will find yourself in expert difficulty and your arms will start moving without you sending conscious input to them.

And if people keep only mapping Expert+? ♥♥♥♥ em. There are a lot of very good mappers out there that map multiple different difficulty levels, and those maps are a lot more popular than some E+ edgelord that excels on a particular style of map wanting to flex on other edgelords.

Telling mappers who are mapping songs they like for free to ♥♥♥♥ off and calling them edgelords is a bad take. People generally make maps for their own enjoyment and skill level and they don't owe you anything.

If you want custom maps with full difficulty ranges you can check out modern ranked maps, most of them have 3-5 difficulties due to the way the ranking system works (the more difficulties on the map, the faster it gets ranked).
Jellybean May 4, 2022 @ 3:43pm 
You probably haven't been playing that long. I remember my first month the best I could do was hard tracks. You will get better over time and eventually expert+ will feel like the default for you. That's the main reason so many tracks are expert or expert+. Everyone dedicated enough to the game to make tracks for it have played it long enough that its the difficulty they enjoy they most. Its a lot of work to make a single good track with just one difficulty, mapping for multiple difficulties takes way too much time and most of the community usually won't play anything below expert, so its a waste of time for the mappers. There are a few tracks here and there with lower difficulties, but its more out of the kindness of the mapper's heart.

Also getting better at this game isn't about memorising block patterns like you suggest in your post. Its about improving your reaction speed and your ability to track fast notes with your eyes and not get overwhelmed. Its a physical game as well, stamina and the ability of your muscles are also a factor and will improve over time as you play. It will seem daunting at first, but overtime it just becomes second nature and your body moves on its own even to new songs you've never played before.
Poor gai May 5, 2022 @ 9:22pm 
I would suggest maybe using the modifiers to slow down the songs you are playing, if you do not care about scores. If you're in it for fun, then absolutely tweak the songs top suit your comfort/skill level. The slower speeds definitely help in easing you into learning block patterns as well.
deadnori May 6, 2022 @ 8:13am 
Originally posted by Jellybean:
You probably haven't been playing that long. I remember my first month the best I could do was hard tracks. You will get better over time and eventually expert+ will feel like the default for you. That's the main reason so many tracks are expert or expert+. Everyone dedicated enough to the game to make tracks for it have played it long enough that its the difficulty they enjoy they most. Its a lot of work to make a single good track with just one difficulty, mapping for multiple difficulties takes way too much time and most of the community usually won't play anything below expert, so its a waste of time for the mappers. There are a few tracks here and there with lower difficulties, but its more out of the kindness of the mapper's heart.

Also getting better at this game isn't about memorising block patterns like you suggest in your post. Its about improving your reaction speed and your ability to track fast notes with your eyes and not get overwhelmed. Its a physical game as well, stamina and the ability of your muscles are also a factor and will improve over time as you play. It will seem daunting at first, but overtime it just becomes second nature and your body moves on its own even to new songs you've never played before.
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I agree with you on this being frustrating. There are a lot of good songs that I can't play, but I have physical handicaps and will never get to E+ levels, even though I've got over 1100 hours in this game. I've just accepted this. That being said, I also agree that the more you play, the better you get, even on songs never played before. Your reaction time and muscle memory will kick into higher gears the more you play. Playing at slower speed might help (I hated it), or speeding up lower level songs might help.

Custom songs are free, so it is hard to complain about them, but there are a ton of them and the rankings do help when searching. I have all the DLC because they are multi-level, plus I'm old and am used to paying for music (Like records and cassettes old) :) so I don't mind. Try different settings and MOD's til you find what works for you. If you just listen to the music, don't worry about scores or levels and just have fun, you will get better and better and better. I personally have never memorized the block patterns, so can't help with that one.

Just have fun! Isn't that the whole point?
[N] Night Gal May 26, 2022 @ 3:22pm 
It simply comes down to majority - VR technology is at a price that a random citizen doesn't buy, its community mainly consists of gamers and tech lovers, also mainly of younger generation. For a younger player, it takes around 10 hours of playtime to get on expert+ (and I mean the low expert+).
Majority makes songs for themselves and, as you mentioned, they sometimes don't bother making more than E+.

To cheer you up, there are many mis-categorized maps, mainly for english songs, where expert and even expert+ is in reality hard difficulty.
English songs tend to be slower (and less creative) than asian ones.

So, if you see english song on higher difficulty, give it a try.
Originally posted by N Manchuria Monkey:
English songs tend to be slower (and less creative) than asian ones.

By Asian, I assume you mean animee? Or are there other alternatives you could recommend? I was able to find a little bit of bollywood. But otherwise?
[N] Night Gal May 27, 2022 @ 7:06am 
Originally posted by oxide green (chrome):
Originally posted by N Manchuria Monkey:
English songs tend to be slower (and less creative) than asian ones.

By Asian, I assume you mean animee? Or are there other alternatives you could recommend? I was able to find a little bit of bollywood. But otherwise?
I would say that Anime songs (openings and endings, mostly) are smaller part, it is usually songs featuring (or originally featuring) Hatsune Miku and other vocaloids.
Technically majority falls in the J-Pop category.
if you want direct recommendation, give me your DC nick, I download them so I would just drop you the files, can't remember names rn

Alternatives, hmm... some classical songs are well mapped, some Geoxor songs (only some, other are too repetetive, try Nandayo)
Originally posted by N Manchuria Monkey:
I would say that Anime songs (openings and endings, mostly) are smaller part, it is usually songs featuring (or originally featuring) Hatsune Miku and other vocaloids.
Technically majority falls in the J-Pop category.
if you want direct recommendation, give me your DC nick, I download them so I would just drop you the files, can't remember names rn

Alternatives, hmm... some classical songs are well mapped, some Geoxor songs (only some, other are too repetetive, try Nandayo)

I don't have a dc account (even if it's hard to imagine), but thank you in any case for your offer.

In that case, musically (pop) it's probably a direction that doesn't appeal to me as much ("Bollywood" is an exception because it's linked to funny memories, but otherwise it wouldn't necessarily be my world either). Then rather the classical things with tabla, sitar (Ravi Shankar, for example, or Bismillah Khan). If Mozart and Beethoven work as a map, why not something like that? For China/Japan it would be something with a drum/flute - but I can't think of anyone I could look for. Except maybe something like Yamato - when I see the drums, I have the urge to join in. It must be really fun to bang on the drums. I would love to have this mega giant drum. Unfortunately it doesn't fit in my flat. And I don't know how something like that would look as a map, but I could imagine it. There are enough crazy things that are also fun. If I had a talent for mapping, I would try it myself.

I've come across Geoxor a few times and like the music. But I haven't discovered Nandayo yet. I'll catch up on that later. Thanks for that.
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Date Posted: Apr 30, 2022 @ 4:54pm
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