Is beat saber custom songs legal?

[Daws]

I have changed the name due to a error in the title. My question is custom songs pirating and I would like feedback.

[Ball Fondler]

Originally posted by GSGregory:

Originally posted by Fml:

well pends its a grey area Id just go get some modded songs and have some fun cause the basic songs are so boring. Also pends the mapper is suppose to ask for permission for the songs use it should only be their fault cause the people downloading the songs are under the impression that everything is fine.

We all know no one is getting permission to use the songs. I personally don't care. But if it ever became an issue the case could be made in court that people could use the beatsaver downloads to pirate music instead of buying it.

We really shouldn't package the song files with the beatsaber files.

Well no ♥♥♥♥ no ones doing but you could easily say(if it came to court) that you were under the impression that they had permission from the songs owner
On top of all of what you said the songs have to be converted to gg which usually only can play in browsers it would be much easier to just listen to the music on youtube anyways

[[GS]Gregory]

Originally posted by Fml:

Originally posted by GSGregory:

We all know no one is getting permission to use the songs. I personally don't care. But if it ever became an issue the case could be made in court that people could use the beatsaver downloads to pirate music instead of buying it.

We really shouldn't package the song files with the beatsaber files.

Well no ♥♥♥♥ no ones doing but you could easily say(if it came to court) that you were under the impression that they had permission from the songs owner

... No player is going to get sued for downloading a song. Beatsaver could be sued for hosting content.

[Ball Fondler]

Originally posted by GSGregory:

Originally posted by Fml:

Well no ♥♥♥♥ no ones doing but you could easily say(if it came to court) that you were under the impression that they had permission from the songs owner

... No player is going to get sued for downloading a song. Beatsaver could be sued for hosting content.

You never know it’s possible but yeah best saver is definitely gonna get sued in the future at some point it’s just inevitable

[Poison Dart Frag]

Custom songs in general are legal; but if it involves a song which the Intellectual Property rights holder (the artist that created it, or the recording company that signed a contract with the artist etc) did not grant authorization for this specific form of distribution, then odds are big that it's illegal (but there may be some exceptions). I'm not a lawyer though.

[Alternity]

Originally posted by GSGregory:

Technically the only illegal part is the sharing of music files.

I think you forgot the avatars/sabers/platforms that were ripped from other games (or stolen from somewhere online).

[Alternity]

Originally posted by Fml:

Originally posted by GSGregory:

... No player is going to get sued for downloading a song. Beatsaver could be sued for hosting content.

You never know it’s possible but yeah best saver is definitely gonna get sued in the future at some point it’s just inevitable

Sued? They have a disclaimer that specifically says that if the artist want their songs down they just ask and it will be taken down on the website.

It's possible that the uploader gets sued I guess? (good luck finding the dude?) But the website itself is pretty safe.

C3 has been doing that for 5+ years for Rock Band 3, and they never got sued. Same for the FoF forums, they share thousands of music there for FoF/PS and CH. Beat Saber is nothing different.

[Ball Fondler]

Originally posted by Alternity:

Originally posted by Fml:

You never know it’s possible but yeah best saver is definitely gonna get sued in the future at some point it’s just inevitable

Sued? They have a disclaimer that specifically says that if the artist want their songs down they just ask and it will be taken down on the website.

It's possible that the uploader gets sued I guess? (good luck finding the dude?) But the website itself is pretty safe.

C3 has been doing that for 5+ years for Rock Band 3, and they never got sued. Same for the FoF forums, they share thousands of music there for FoF/PS and CH. Beat Saber is nothing different.

Yeah I wouldn’t worry about anything I have 400 plus song, like 40 Sabers I dunno why OP was worrying about it. The normal game is just so boring.

[[GS]Gregory]

Originally posted by Alternity:

Originally posted by Fml:

You never know it’s possible but yeah best saver is definitely gonna get sued in the future at some point it’s just inevitable

Sued? They have a disclaimer that specifically says that if the artist want their songs down they just ask and it will be taken down on the website.

It's possible that the uploader gets sued I guess? (good luck finding the dude?) But the website itself is pretty safe.

C3 has been doing that for 5+ years for Rock Band 3, and they never got sued. Same for the FoF forums, they share thousands of music there for FoF/PS and CH. Beat Saber is nothing different.

LOL! Just like every torrent site and every pirating every since the begging of time.

[Alternity]

The difference with torrent sites is that they do get sued, but the ammount of pirated content in torrenting is exponentially bigger than what we are doing with music games.

[JackStillAlive]

This is a little bit complicated situation here. In short, it's Yes and No.

They are added to the game as a modfication by players for completely free and the mappers make absolutely no money by doing this, but they are still doing it without getting permission from the given song's publisher/distributor.

If the developers were to officially add Custom Songs(impossbile to do due to all of the licensing needed), it would be illegal, but as long as players do it as a mod and make absolutely no money off of it, it is legal.

[Alternity]

Devs could add custom songs, it's not impossible.

The catch is that they only could share the map, not the audio.

[Kovak]

Doesnt matter if they make money off it or not, it's illegal to download the songs and for the person to upload the songs, just because its very unlikely you will get caught or have any action taken against you or the uploader/ file host doesnt make it legal. only reason its somewhat fine uploading official music videos on youtube is because the video gets claimed and any money earned goes to the creators

[Niles]

Huh

[Kurtino]

Originally posted by Enorats:

Originally posted by Cow:

Then I suppose modding skyrim and fallout is also illegal by that logic.

Not exactly. In that case the content creator is distributing their own creation for free. Here a creator is taking someone else's creation (the music) and making a custom beat saber map for it to use the song in the game. If the music wasn't created by them, then they should get permission to use it from the owner. That doesn't happen, so it's technically illegal. The grey area is whether or not it's legal to download the songs for use in the game.

Depends if the mods contain other people's work. Mods using models and assets and sound effects/music from unlicensed areas would be no different from Beat Saber either, so although we're joking about mods being illegal, they technically can be.

It's just that very few companies care enough to take down everything people do with their IP. There are plenty of mario mods for many games, for example, that Nintendo could issue a cease and desist for if they wanted to.

[dumb cat CSGOSKINS]

i dont know if i can add custom songs to beat saber i just want more songs so is it legal? im scared