Why is this **** never on sale?

[Bubu-der-Uhu]

Want to try Beatsaber since a while now.
I never see it on sale.
I am not willing to pay 30Euro for a game where the devs aren't even able to implement a configuration for the saber-angle so it plays comfortably with different controllers.

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So for the people who have a hard time reading this thread:
I bought the game allready, and still it imho is not worth 30USD.
Yes this game is fun, but 30USD for a rythm game with a handful of repetitive songs is just way to overpriced. The guys who really are to praise are the hard working community that creates tons of songs that are available for free and can be played in beatsaber with mods.

Instead of buying beat saber I would recommend to play the community made "moon rider". This is basically beat saber and works with community made maps but its free. Ofc it has no fancy light effects like beat saber, but everything else is basically the same (it is actually a VR Browser game - Those guys made their own Browser VR engine).

So instead blowing 30USD in Zuckerbergs ♥♥♥, Id recommend to give moon rider a try and support the communitys patreon with the saved money instead. I should have done so as well, but I didn't know about moon rider back then.

[ttv/VirtuallyBob™]

Woo hoo! As of last night, I hit 92 hours playtime in Beat Saber (approx 60/40 Index/WMR) and I'm #1 on a few of the 'normal' (hahaha) difficulty song that are part of the new Christmas playlists.

Certainly getting my money's worth and a great cardo workout to boot.

Now debating if I should purchase Boneworks today, day one, or wait for a sale... it's only $30, which is less than a full tank of gas for my car or one trip to the movies... but I am a cheapskate and hate supporting game developers... oh, world's smallest violin! What shall I do?

[Bubu-der-Uhu]

Originally posted by omegabob:

Woo hoo! As of last night, I hit 92 hours playtime in Beat Saber (approx 60/40 Index/WMR) and I'm #1 on a few of the 'normal' (hahaha) difficulty song that are part of the new Christmas playlists.

Certainly getting my money's worth and a great cardo workout to boot.

Now debating if I should purchase Boneworks today, day one, or wait for a sale... it's only $30, which is less than a full tank of gas for my car or one trip to the movies... but I am a cheapskate and hate supporting game developers... oh, world's smallest violin! What shall I do?

Make stupid posts in the steam forums.

[Bubu-der-Uhu]

Originally posted by desrtfox071:

Originally posted by Bubu cs.deals cs.money:

I have a bunch of games on my wishlist and I think all but beatsaber went on sale by now (even sakiro after a few months)

You mean apply to facebook... where they sold out to...

RimWorld is one example off the top of my head.

Now, look, I could take the time to explain this to you without the condescension, etc. If you want me to do that, please ask, and stop demanding and stomping your feet like a child and accusing people of "greed" when you have no idea what you're talking about.

But you don't really want to know why do you? You just want to complain about it I think.

There is no stomping with my feet.
Beat Sabre is a low hour project, that misses a lot of features and charges 30USD which is a lot compared to high-hour projects like boneworks (just for comparison).

Beat Saber is fun for sure, but mainly because you can sideload maps and use mods to fix the biggest flaws the game has... and this is something the community created, not the devs. And imho its not fair that they put 30USD per copy and millions from facebook in their pockets for their game they barely maintain.

And there are guys like you that take free mods and maps for granted... And because Beatsaber is so fun for you its worth 30USD. And god dare if someone comes and critisize this super fun game you payed 30USD for.

Credit where credit is due.

[desrtfox071]

Originally posted by Bubu cs.deals cs.money:

Originally posted by desrtfox071:

RimWorld is one example off the top of my head.

Now, look, I could take the time to explain this to you without the condescension, etc. If you want me to do that, please ask, and stop demanding and stomping your feet like a child and accusing people of "greed" when you have no idea what you're talking about.

But you don't really want to know why do you? You just want to complain about it I think.

There is no stomping with my feet.

unsupported speculation and disparaging of the devs effort...

appeal to "fairness", totally subjective....

More unsopported (and wrong) speculation...

What was your point with this post? You are stomping your feet metaphorically. Seriously, you should research market economics and also projection. The second because it pertains to your sense of entitlement.


Caves of Qud - another no-sale Steam game.


Also, hey, if you don't feel confident enough to post your market analysis, post it here and I'll punch it up for you. Or was this post supposed to be justification for your near sightedness and entitlement?

[Bubu-der-Uhu]

Originally posted by desrtfox071:

Originally posted by Bubu cs.deals cs.money:

There is no stomping with my feet.

unsupported speculation and disparaging of the devs effort...

appeal to "fairness", totally subjective....

More unsopported (and wrong) speculation...

What was your point with this post? You are stomping your feet metaphorically. Seriously, you should research market economics and also projection. The second because it pertains to your sense of entitlement.


Caves of Qud - another no-sale Steam game.


Also, hey, if you don't feel confident enough to post your market analysis, post it here and I'll punch it up for you. Or was this post supposed to be justification for your near sightedness and entitlement?

When you have not even the slightest idea if a game like beat saber is more/less complicated to implement then a game like boneworks, than thats none of my business.
Same is true if you cant see that moders were able to hack in features within days, while the devs fail since may 2018. If thats unsupported speculation for you, then there is not point in discussing any further.

Cool... cash in on the work of others... fairness totally subjective.

Speculation about "people like you" - yes. But your posts speak for itself. Demanding others to pay 30USD cause they payed the same amount themselfs for their favorite game.... sounds somehow like stockholm syndrome.

Oh btw. Caves of Qud... 10% off every now and then.
https://steamdb.info/app/333640/

And for economics I am sure you heard about the laffer-curve. While this explains the taxrate/tax-revenue I am sure there is something similar that can be applied to sales - Since you as Dr. Dr. adult economics for sure knows more then stupid msc informatics, you will find the proper economic-therory that represents the same idea.
Yes I know the ideal point where the revenue is maxed out is hard to find... but we could try to find out... by putting the game... on... sale.

[desrtfox071]

Originally posted by Bubu cs.deals cs.money:

Originally posted by desrtfox071:

What was your point with this post? You are stomping your feet metaphorically. Seriously, you should research market economics and also projection. The second because it pertains to your sense of entitlement.


Caves of Qud - another no-sale Steam game.


Also, hey, if you don't feel confident enough to post your market analysis, post it here and I'll punch it up for you. Or was this post supposed to be justification for your near sightedness and entitlement?

When you have not even the slightest idea if a game like beat saber is more/less complicated to implement then a game like boneworks, than thats none of my business.
Same is true if you cant see that moders were able to hack in features within days, while the devs fail since may 2018. If thats unsupported speculation for you, then there is not point in discussing any further.

Cool... cash in on the work of others... fairness totally subjective.

Speculation about "people like you" - yes. But your posts speak for itself. Demanding others to pay 30USD cause they payed the same amount themselfs for their favorite game.... sounds somehow like stockholm syndrome.

Oh btw. Caves of Qud... 10% off every now and then.
https://steamdb.info/app/333640/

And for economics I am sure you heard about the laffer-curve. While this explains the taxrate/tax-revenue I am sure there is something similar that can be applied to sales - Since you as Dr. Dr. adult economics for sure more then stupid msc informatics, you will find the proper economic-therory that represents the same idea.
Yes I know the ideal point where the revenue is maxed out is hard to find... but we could try to find out... by puting the game... on... sale.

Finally, you admit you have no idea about the costs of the development of the game. Cool. We're getting somewhere at least.

Also, I'm not demanding anything. You are. You are the one complaining about the issue. That issue being you're unwilling to spend the asked for amount of currency for the game. So, kinda one step forward, and one step backward I guess.

Yes, Caves of Qud does get a very minor sale every once in a while. Still, nothing like the 50% in your arbitrary, 10 second analysis.

As for your name dropping, and attempt to look like you have an actual idea about the economics of this case, you still have provided absolutely nothing that matters. You know what does matter? Actual data. You know like the size of the market, the number of sales, the estimates of how many purchases might still be out there and why they haven't bought the game. You know all that stuff people actually get paid to do rather than whine on a forum about "greed".

So, you started out accusing the devs of greed, when you now admit you know nothing of their development, and you also have no data to back up your claim that a sale would be beneficial - at all. And now try to spout out some words to cover up that fact. Cool.

Stay in school kids.


PS - For those on the fence, buy the game or don't. Who here actually cares? But, whining about "fairness" and about some made up numbers just makes you look like the greedy one. Seriously, $15 is egregious to you? lol. (Oh, and before you jump in about $15 not being $30. Work it out. I'm sure you can)

[Bubu-der-Uhu]

Originally posted by desrtfox071:

Finally, you admit you have no idea about the costs of the development of the game. Cool. We're getting somewhere at least.

Having no clue about software development and making false assumptions, doesn't make your statement right. Who are you? Trump Jr.?

Originally posted by desrtfox071:

Also, I'm not demanding anything. You are. You are the one complaining about the issue. That issue being you're unwilling to spend the asked for amount of currency for the game. So, kinda one step forward, and one step backward I guess.

Yes - I complain this game is not on sale. You complain that I do not want to pay 30USD thats so totally worth it in your little world.

Originally posted by desrtfox071:

Yes, Caves of Qud does get a very minor sale every once in a while. Still, nothing like the 50% in your arbitrary, 10 second analysis.

Its still something, and your are mistaken analysis with evaluation.

Originally posted by desrtfox071:

As for your name dropping, and attempt to look like you have an actual idea about the economics of this case, you still have provided absolutely nothing that matters. You know what does matter? Actual data. You know like the size of the market, the number of sales, the estimates of how many purchases might still be out there and why they haven't bought the game. You know all that stuff people actually get paid to do rather than whine on a forum about "greed".

You are the one claiming to be Mr. economics here. But nothing from you, not even name dropping. You just stand here writing "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, thats not true. You are stupid. WITCHHUNT!" without providing anything but decorated nice english sentences to sound smart.

Originally posted by desrtfox071:

So, you started out accusing the devs of greed, when you now admit you know nothing of their development, and you also have no data to back up your claim that a sale would be beneficial - at all. And now try to spout out some words to cover up that fact. Cool.

See the first point here.

Originally posted by desrtfox071:

Stay in school kid.

I bet you hear that often.

Originally posted by desrtfox071:

PS - Buy the game or don't. Who here actually cares? But, whining about "fairness" and about some made up numbers just makes you look like the greedy one. Seriously, $15 is egregious to you? lol. (Oh, and before you jump in about $15 not being $30. Work it out. I'm sure you can)

Seems like you do.

[ttv/VirtuallyBob™]

"Make stupid posts in the steam forums."

wot? does? dat? mean?

Are you saying you are jelly of my accomplishments? Yes, I know, getting the world-wide #1 score in many of the new Christmas song maps on 'normal' difficulty doesn't sound like much, but to me, it's kinda cool! I took screenshots! Wanna see them? I can try to beat your high score on 'easy' if you are up to the challenge? No?

Wait a second! Are you saying you hate exercise or that it's stupid to compare the entertainment value of a 2hr movie to over 92hrs (and counting) of a video game? You must be real fun on date night:

"Sorrie, sugarcheeks. I am not paying $50 for a movie & grub tonight! I cannot justify the cost/entertainment value, honeychild. Since I also cannot afford... cough cough... I mean justify... paying for the petrol for my car, snookums, hows bout we just Netflix & Chill? Oh and by Netflix & Chill, pumpkin, I mean I'll torrent the latest cam for us, whilst you massage my feet, because I'm tired from not exercising, poobear."
(said in your sexy voice)

[Bubu-der-Uhu]

Originally posted by omegabob:

"Make stupid posts in the steam forums."

wot? does? dat? mean?

Are you saying you are jelly of my accomplishments? Yes, I know, getting the world-wide #1 score in many of the new Christmas song maps on 'normal' difficulty doesn't sound like much, but to me, it's kinda cool! I took screenshots! Wanna see them? I can try to beat your high score on 'easy' if you are up to the challenge? No?

Wait a second! Are you saying you hate exercise or that it's stupid to compare the entertainment value of a 2hr movie to over 92hrs (and counting) of a video game? You must be real fun on date night:

"Sorrie, sugarcheeks. I am not paying $50 for a movie & grub tonight! I cannot justify the cost/entertainment value, honeychild. Since I also cannot afford... cough cough... I mean justify... paying for the petrol for my car, snookums, hows bout we just Netflix & Chill? Oh and by Netflix & Chill, pumpkin, I mean I'll torrent the latest cam for us, whilst you massage my feet, because I'm tired from not exercising, poobear."
(said in your sexy voice)

I hope you have friends that think youre funny.

But have fun playing the christmas playlist that modders created for free so you have something to play in the 30USD game that comes with annoying music. I also downloaded a few classics.
And if you dig paying 50USD for a Teletubies movie just to harrass some ladies, you should maybe get some help.

[Tux]

I agree. $30 for a rhythm game is pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ just because they added a level creator. I get supply and demand, and that as a developer it's a smart move; doesn't make it any less ♥♥♥♥♥♥ though, even with mods. Looked forward to getting it always wanted it, and I never looked at the price until now (expected it to be 10-20 at MOST). The amount of actual content compared to price is pathetic (not to mention if you want any content outside of mods the prices are ramped on DLC).
From a business's view it's super intelligent. They have the demand, therefore the leverage to adjust the price however they would like. Doesn't change the fact that it's still a 4Gb rhythm game.
(You could look at Garry's mod if you want, 10 bucks start - present, and it's one of the most popular and successful games because of it's content and affordability)

I'm with you though, not gonna purchase until there at least is a sale. $30 for a rhythm game is steep, even if it is super popular.

[Flob]

cant pay $30 but will pay over $100 for csgo keys lmao aight

[ttv/VirtuallyBob™]

Originally posted by Bubu cs.deals cs.money:

I hope you have friends that think youre funny.

But have fun playing the christmas playlist that modders created for free so you have something to play in the 30USD game that comes with annoying music. I also downloaded a few classics.
And if you dig paying 50USD for a Teletubies movie just to harrass some ladies, you should maybe get some help.

At least I have friends.

#boomshakalaka

(you left yerself open there, ya know?)

If you have such bleeding heart guilt over 'modders' working for 'free'... then may I humbly suggest that you, when you aren't complaining about the cost/value of a night at the theater with your indentured foot rubber, use what little greenbacks you have to 'pay' the 'modders' on their personal Patreons. Afterall, YOU just admitted you DOWNLOADED THEIR HARD WORK... so... PUT UP or SHUT UP (as the ye olde saying goes). Pay them or else YOU are a... wait for it... hypocrite. Can you do that for me? Can you? Can... you...?

Predicted response: "Aw no man! I aintz got no timez for datz sh*t! It aintz MY job (if I evaz be employed) to pay dem! Sh*t. Datz Da Man's job! Sh*t. Now, rub my feetz!"

My personal opinion is you don't have what it takes to prove your worth by opening your moth-ridden wallet and paying modders, whose hard work you used for your own benefit and enjoyment. I hope you prove me wrong, I doubt you will.

[Yoth]

Originally posted by Bubu cs.deals cs.money:

Want to try Beatsaber since a while now.
I never see it on sale.
I am not willing to pay 30Euro for a game where the devs aren't even able to implement a configuration for the saber-angle so it plays comfortably with different controllers.

From my purchase history:
Purchased: May 21 @ 2:44am
Beat Saber - 14,99€

It was on sale and it will be again.. you're just an impatient crybaby that wants it on sale right now.

I played the game on PSVR, WMR, Index, Vive (Standard and Pro), Oculus (Rift, Rift S and Quest). It works comfortably with all controllers. No adjustments needed. Just play for an hour and get used to the angle.

[lel_]

Jesus, he is clearly trolling, stop talking with him xD

[Banana Boogaloo]

you definitely don't sound entitled by complaining that a relatively new game that you really want isn't on sale.