Why is this **** never on sale?

[Bubu-der-Uhu]

Want to try Beatsaber since a while now.
I never see it on sale.
I am not willing to pay 30Euro for a game where the devs aren't even able to implement a configuration for the saber-angle so it plays comfortably with different controllers.

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So for the people who have a hard time reading this thread:
I bought the game allready, and still it imho is not worth 30USD.
Yes this game is fun, but 30USD for a rythm game with a handful of repetitive songs is just way to overpriced. The guys who really are to praise are the hard working community that creates tons of songs that are available for free and can be played in beatsaber with mods.

Instead of buying beat saber I would recommend to play the community made "moon rider". This is basically beat saber and works with community made maps but its free. Ofc it has no fancy light effects like beat saber, but everything else is basically the same (it is actually a VR Browser game - Those guys made their own Browser VR engine).

So instead blowing 30USD in Zuckerbergs ♥♥♥, Id recommend to give moon rider a try and support the communitys patreon with the saved money instead. I should have done so as well, but I didn't know about moon rider back then.

[DaBa]

It doesn't have to go on sale. People who like the concept are more than willing to pay full price, they aren't going to make it go on sale because of weird people like you, who spend 600€ on a headset and don't want to pay 30€ for a really good VR game. Moreover, If you are not willing to pay 30 Euro for this game, then it's not a game for you plain and simple. You're not going to like it, even if you buy it on sale. You are not the target audience, deal with it.

Also, the issue you're complaining about can be easily addressed using a mod, so do some research next time before you make an embarrassing topic like that.

[Bubu-der-Uhu]

Originally posted by DaBa:

It doesn't have to go on sale. People who like the concept are more than willing to pay full price, they aren't going to make it go on sale because of weird people like you, who spend 600€ on a headset and don't want to pay 30€ for a really good VR game. Moreover, If you are not willing to pay 30 Euro for this game, then it's not a game for you plain and simple. You're not going to like it, even if you buy it on sale. You are not the target audience, deal with it.

Also, the issue you're complaining about can be easily addressed using a mod, so do some research next time before you make an embarrassing topic like that.

1.) I usually do not pay the full price for a 2 year old game, no matter how cool you think it is.
2.) I know about sabre tailor, but we are talking about 2 year old game, that charges full price - thats a simple feature that should be included in the game. Not forcing me to download some 3rd party ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that is diffcult to tinker with it and might cause a steam ban if unlucky.
3.) I payed 1080.- for the headset and it is worth it. And on the other hand there is a game without demo, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ controller support and I cant even find a tracklist whats included... And it is getting more expensive then cheaper. Sounds more like a cashgrab no matter the "target audience". But hey I can buy songs for 2 Euro each.

[Santa Wolf]

bruh black friday is 3 days away. If it's not on sale then, then don't buy it. Nobody cares what you do lmao

[Bubu-der-Uhu]

Originally posted by jfc im redarted:

bruh black friday is 3 days away. If it's not on sale then, then don't buy it. Nobody cares what you do lmao

This was not an announcement, this was a rant.

[Dudi4[PoL][Fr]]

BS was never on sale and it won't be for quite a long time. If it's selling very well without even -10% sale why the developer should change the price and earn less money?

This is the basic of offer and demand law.

[Bubu-der-Uhu]

Originally posted by Dudi4 PoLFr:

BS was never on sale and it won't be for quite a long time. If it's selling very well without even -10% sale why the developer should change the price and earn less money?

This is the basic of offer and demand law.

Yep - Kinda sad, that there are that many people that buy this halfassed implementation that even breaks the required mods with every ♥♥♥♥♥♥ payed music pack update.

[MegaBlindy]

Yeah totally... Except...

1. Game came out may 2019, soo its not even 6 months old

2. How can you get banned on steam for using mods on a single player game?

3. You never have to purchase any additional songs, there is a mod that has built in custom level downloader and lets you import any user created levels

[Dudi4[PoL][Fr]]

Originally posted by Bubu cs.deals cs.money:

Originally posted by Dudi4 PoLFr:

BS was never on sale and it won't be for quite a long time. If it's selling very well without even -10% sale why the developer should change the price and earn less money?

This is the basic of offer and demand law.

Yep - Kinda sad, that there are that many people that buy this halfassed implementation that even breaks the required mods with every ♥♥♥♥♥♥ payed music pack update.

Because they want us to buy their (inferior) music from Steam to make even more money. As a player I think that this is not the right thing to do, but from an economic/marketing point of view this it's understandable.

[Daimon]

This is about some weird principle I have now :D I'm not going to buy it before I see a discount badge even that I've wanted to buy it since it wasn't yet available on Steam.

[Bubu-der-Uhu]

Originally posted by MegaBlindy:

Yeah totally... Except...

1. Game came out may 2019, soo its not even 6 months old

2. How can you get banned on steam for using mods on a single player game?

3. You never have to purchase any additional songs, there is a mod that has built in custom level downloader and lets you import any user created levels

1.) May 2018 on Steam
2.) You have to rely on 3rd-party non steam mods that tinker with steam apps. I do not know how bans on steam work, but I do not want to risk my 15 year old x-thousand dollar steam account because the devs can't get a basic feature straight.
3.) I know - I can stick with the included ones where I cant find a tracklist of... Or I install a 3rd party mod that lets me play non-licenced music (see 2) and gets broken every now and then.
I have no problem paying for good addon content... but they are selling them as "major updates" without tweeking anything on the game except breaking mods.

[DaBa]

Dude get real, you are just a random nobody who doesn't understand how mods work, and is mad because a good game doesn't go on sale. Seriously, how sad is that?

[Artizen]

This game is part of the reason people think that VR isn't dead, instead of just a waste of money. Mods breaking are NOT their fault, and most of the time they don't even break, you just have to reinstall them. But most people don't wait, or even look into whether they're broken or not, so they just spread false information, which you've fallen victim to. As for the missing angle adjustment, I agree completely, it's a basic feature that should be there, I have no doubts about that. However, you're blowing a few minor gripes way out of proportion, and I'm saying that as respectfully as I can, b I really just don't see what problem there is. Most VR games are just lazy cash-grab ports, which aren't built from the ground up for VR. And the games that are built for VR, are just too ambitious for such small teams to carry out, and so they flop. That's the reason people think VR is dying, and games like Beat Saber provide a simple but extraordinarily fun experience.

Also, you're not even in the slightest bit of risk. The modders are at risk, not you, you're not liable for anything that someone else does, even if you partake in their product. It's the same with every rhythm game with custom songs, and some games even support it. If you're not worried about downloading custom songs, then you're worried about modding it, in which case you still can't get into trouble. You're not liable for modding this game, that is entirely the choice of the modders, and they are at risk, not you.

TLDR: There's Zero Risk, plenty of health benefits, and people have spent over 1,000 hours playing this game and still haven't stopped playing. There's also an extremely welcoming and caring community, which has done extraordinarily kind acts, and often give away money through bounties and tournaments, or even for charity.

[Chaunsey]

you are not entitled to a sale.

[Bubu-der-Uhu]

Originally posted by DaBa:

Dude get real, you are just a random nobody who doesn't understand how mods work, and is mad because a good game doesn't go on sale. Seriously, how sad is that?

And you are a random fanboy that payed 30Euro for a game that is not particulary interesting without mods. And now you want everyone else to pay 30.- Euro so you feel less stupid.

Get Real:
- It has missing features that are required to work properly with other Headsets
- It has NO OFFICIAL modsupport, so everything you do is at your own risk
- The "Updates" do not tackle any of this as they are just Songpacks without improvements.
- Now, yesterday they sold themselfs to Facebook, I mean... Cashgrab, lul?

"Also, you're not even in the slightest bit of risk."
Do I know how all those beatsaber mods work? No. But I know that VAC looks for signatures if in Memory data is altered. And since there is no official mod support its gg when your acount is banned.
Is it likely to get banned for modding? - most likely not. Is it possilbe? Yes, because none of us knows how VAC works and how eager they might get when you are violating possible TOS.
It is my account that is at risk... not the github page of some modder.

... The sad thing is: You know how I will not be bothered with all this modding, reinstalling being in fear that my steam account is banned, etc, etc, etc? By downloading a fully modded pirated copy that doesnt cost me a penny :(

[Chaunsey]

Originally posted by Bubu cs.deals cs.money:

Originally posted by DaBa:

Dude get real, you are just a random nobody who doesn't understand how mods work, and is mad because a good game doesn't go on sale. Seriously, how sad is that?

And you are a random fanboy that payed 30Euro for a game that is not particulary interesting without mods. And now you want everyone else to pay 30.- Euro so you feel less stupid.

Get Real:
- It has missing features that are required to work properly with other Headsets
- It has NO OFFICIAL modsupport, so everything you do is at your own risk
- The "Updates" do not tackle any of this as they are just Songpacks without improvements.
- Now, yesterday they sold themselfs to Facebook, I mean... Cashgrab, lul?

"Also, you're not even in the slightest bit of risk."
Do I know how all those beatsaber mods work? No. But I know that VAC looks for signatures if in Memory data is altered. And since there is no official mod support its gg when your acount is banned.
Is it likely to get banned for modding? - most likely not. Is it possilbe? Yes, because none of us knows how VAC works and how eager they might get when you are violating possible TOS.
It is my account that is at risk... not the github page of some modder.

... The sad thing is: You know how I will not be bothered with all this modding, reinstalling being in fear that my steam account is banned, etc, etc, etc? By downloading a fully modded pirated copy that doesnt cost me a penny :(

modding doesnt violate steam's TOS, nor the game's.

plenty of people enjoy the game even without mods, the PSVR version has sold the most copies and has no mods.

there is no VAC in this game.

this game has hundreds of thousands of people playing with mods, and not 1 person has ever faced any kind of trouble for it, mods are not officially supported in the software, except for songs, which are officially supported, but the devs are supportive of modding, they hire modders, and one of the devs created and runs the custom leaderboard mod and website everyone uses.

$30 is not a lot for this game at all.

i think you're trying to find any excuse to justify your piracy, i also think its hilarious that you you're pretending to be such a good boy so afraid of breaking the rules with a mod, but you're OK with breaking actual law, committing a misdemeanor punishable by thousands of dollars in fines, yeah ok.

if you think the game is too expensive, then have the conviction to stick to that and dont play it.


the only thing you are correct about is that being bought by oculus is a bad thing, but nothing has actually changed, and may not change.