What happened to Rattman when Wheatley took over?

[BillyGreen]

It's blatantly obvious that he's still alive after the first game. In the comics he doesn't die; he just goes into a stasis pod. In the first half of the game or so, he still makes his dens, draws pictures and all that, but after Wheatley becomes god? Nothing. Up untill now, I just assumed he got caught by something Wheatley screwed up, and THEN died. So the question is: what the hell happened?

[wildpiercy]

I think that he MAY still be alive since the lack of dens could be because Wheatley is moving the chambers around and pulling old ones out of storage.

[Anonymous =D]

Fact is before a patch someone found some stuff where you could see some of his drawings.

[unclebuddy1]

Really?

[BillyGreen]

Thanks

[Savage]

Rattman really isn't relevant. He was there in the first game to give you a good idea of what was going to happen to you. It was to help the game along and make you feel that something was horribly wrong with the tests. You have your prior knowledge so Rattman isn't needed. And if you want to know what happened to Rattman read the comic from the extras ingame or from the portal 2 website.

[wildpiercy]

Originally posted by Flatfire (Freeman211):

Rattman really isn't relevant. He was there in the first game to give you a good idea of what was going to happen to you. It was to help the game along and make you feel that something was horribly wrong with the tests. You have your prior knowledge so Rattman isn't needed. And if you want to know what happened to Rattman read the comic from the extras ingame or from the portal 2 website.

He's still part of the universe and is as relevant as GLaDOS for that very reason, besides, Chell would be dead if it weren't for him, and the Portal 2 ratt dens are a lot more mysterious. Like that one that actually has a voice file you can hear if you get close to the wall with the mural on it.

[GamesAndInk]

I acutally manage to prove in one of my many Portal essays that Rattman is Still Alive. See link! http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3061708

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Anyway. So here's the deal with Rattman: he was living with GLaDOS in control of the facility for months, possibly even a year or more. It's difficult to say. Anyway, during that time, GLaDOS completely shut down ALL TESTING that wasn't related to executing scientists who managed to escape her neurotoxin (for a quick summary of evidence how I came up with that: GLaDOS has an entire wing of the facility filled with skeletons, as discovered by WheatOS; those skeletons weren't from AFTER Chell, because Chell's activation in Portal 1 was the last test subject GLaDOS ever activated. And they weren't from BEFORE Chell, because Rattman moved Chell to the top of the testing queue but it took months for her to be activated; therefore, the skeletons must be from other people. The only other people GLaDOS could have tested was scientists she one by one captured and killed after taking over the facility).

Anyway. So GLaDOS dedicated her entire being to killing all humans in the facility, eventually whittling their numbers down to just Rattman. Then she was stumped. She just couldn't get past him. For months, possibly years, she hunted him. She captured him once, putting him through the tests until he got to the one with the companion cubes, broke some wall panels, and escaped. Then the hunt resumed.

GLaDOS is an immortal machine with all the time in the world. It's clear that she wouldn't stop hunting Rattman, wouldn't activate Chell, until Rattman was dead. So, Rattman did the only thing that made sense: he faked his own death.

I don't know how he did it. A clone? A test subject pulled from a tank and thrown into some acid with a lab coat on? Who knows. But GLaDOS was apparently satisfied, because after a while she resumed normal testing, and never addressed him again; not in Lab Rat, not in Portal, and we have proof he's alive in Portal 2 and she never addresses him there, either.

So, you ask me what Rattman did during the reign of WheatOS? The same thing he did during the reign of GLaDOS (both reigns): he pretended to be dead, never let himself be seen by cameras, never let his presence be known.

But he did survive. We know he survived, because at the end of Portal 2, when Chell's waking up after her exposure to the vacuum, we hear a companion cube singing somewhere just beneath Chell in the elevator shaft. And at the end of the game, Chell gets thrown her companion cube (and we have Word of God that says it's hers), and we can deduce that the only being capable of retrieving her cube from the incinerator, and the only person who would be so sentimental as to return it to her, is Rattman.

-Fin

[BillyGreen]

Originally posted by Mr. Smiles:

I acutally manage to prove in one of my many Portal essays that Rattman is Still Alive. See link! http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3061708

* * * *

Anyway. So here's the deal with Rattman: he was living with GLaDOS in control of the facility for months, possibly even a year or more. It's difficult to say. Anyway, during that time, GLaDOS completely shut down ALL TESTING that wasn't related to executing scientists who managed to escape her neurotoxin (for a quick summary of evidence how I came up with that: GLaDOS has an entire wing of the facility filled with skeletons, as discovered by WheatOS; those skeletons weren't from AFTER Chell, because Chell's activation in Portal 1 was the last test subject GLaDOS ever activated. And they weren't from BEFORE Chell, because Rattman moved Chell to the top of the testing queue but it took months for her to be activated; therefore, the skeletons must be from other people. The only other people GLaDOS could have tested was scientists she one by one captured and killed after taking over the facility).

Anyway. So GLaDOS dedicated her entire being to killing all humans in the facility, eventually whittling their numbers down to just Rattman. Then she was stumped. She just couldn't get past him. For months, possibly years, she hunted him. She captured him once, putting him through the tests until he got to the one with the companion cubes, broke some wall panels, and escaped. Then the hunt resumed.

GLaDOS is an immortal machine with all the time in the world. It's clear that she wouldn't stop hunting Rattman, wouldn't activate Chell, until Rattman was dead. So, Rattman did the only thing that made sense: he faked his own death.

I don't know how he did it. A clone? A test subject pulled from a tank and thrown into some acid with a lab coat on? Who knows. But GLaDOS was apparently satisfied, because after a while she resumed normal testing, and never addressed him again; not in Lab Rat, not in Portal, and we have proof he's alive in Portal 2 and she never addresses him there, either.

So, you ask me what Rattman did during the reign of WheatOS? The same thing he did during the reign of GLaDOS (both reigns): he pretended to be dead, never let himself be seen by cameras, never let his presence be known.

But he did survive. We know he survived, because at the end of Portal 2, when Chell's waking up after her exposure to the vacuum, we hear a companion cube singing somewhere just beneath Chell in the elevator shaft. And at the end of the game, Chell gets thrown her companion cube (and we have Word of God that says it's hers), and we can deduce that the only being capable of retrieving her cube from the incinerator, and the only person who would be so sentimental as to return it to her, is Rattman.

-Fin

Thanks, that explains everything pretty damn clearly :D

[Straya!]

no theres a hitch in that plan, in lab ratt rattman gose into a stasis chamber but remember the statis chambers were losing power? thats why he needed to put chell into the chryosleep with no wake up date! but he did not do that for himself! also, he was already injured by the turrets!

[KyloX]

Originally posted by Mr. Smiles:

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The best part of this is probably that the developers themselfs don't know the state Rattman. At the moment, Rattman has becamed the Schrödinger's cat (hint: even the comics metions about the Schrödinger's cat, though it could be a gimmick or just a nice touch). He is ether dead or alive and there is no way of knowing.

Ineteresting theory, but you are trying too hard to connect things.

[76561198047909787]

Comic about that exists. Search it, It's easy.

[Stormflare]

Originally posted by Mr. Smiles:

I acutally manage to prove in one of my many Portal essays that Rattman is Still Alive. See link! http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3061708

* * * *

Anyway. So here's the deal with Rattman: he was living with GLaDOS in control of the facility for months, possibly even a year or more. It's difficult to say. Anyway, during that time, GLaDOS completely shut down ALL TESTING that wasn't related to executing scientists who managed to escape her neurotoxin (for a quick summary of evidence how I came up with that: GLaDOS has an entire wing of the facility filled with skeletons, as discovered by WheatOS; those skeletons weren't from AFTER Chell, because Chell's activation in Portal 1 was the last test subject GLaDOS ever activated. And they weren't from BEFORE Chell, because Rattman moved Chell to the top of the testing queue but it took months for her to be activated; therefore, the skeletons must be from other people. The only other people GLaDOS could have tested was scientists she one by one captured and killed after taking over the facility).

Anyway. So GLaDOS dedicated her entire being to killing all humans in the facility, eventually whittling their numbers down to just Rattman. Then she was stumped. She just couldn't get past him. For months, possibly years, she hunted him. She captured him once, putting him through the tests until he got to the one with the companion cubes, broke some wall panels, and escaped. Then the hunt resumed.

GLaDOS is an immortal machine with all the time in the world. It's clear that she wouldn't stop hunting Rattman, wouldn't activate Chell, until Rattman was dead. So, Rattman did the only thing that made sense: he faked his own death.

I don't know how he did it. A clone? A test subject pulled from a tank and thrown into some acid with a lab coat on? Who knows. But GLaDOS was apparently satisfied, because after a while she resumed normal testing, and never addressed him again; not in Lab Rat, not in Portal, and we have proof he's alive in Portal 2 and she never addresses him there, either.

So, you ask me what Rattman did during the reign of WheatOS? The same thing he did during the reign of GLaDOS (both reigns): he pretended to be dead, never let himself be seen by cameras, never let his presence be known.

But he did survive. We know he survived, because at the end of Portal 2, when Chell's waking up after her exposure to the vacuum, we hear a companion cube singing somewhere just beneath Chell in the elevator shaft. And at the end of the game, Chell gets thrown her companion cube (and we have Word of God that says it's hers), and we can deduce that the only being capable of retrieving her cube from the incinerator, and the only person who would be so sentimental as to return it to her, is Rattman.

-Fin

Explains alot!

[Employee 427]

Ratman is the gman of Portal. No one knows what exactly he does, and Valve aint telling. The only viable theory on him is that he is Chell's adoptive father, but that still doesnt explain where he is in Portal 2. I find it most likely he is still in cryogenic storage, somewhere...

[Straya!]

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