Chell IS Caroline and Caves Daughter; Absolute Proof.

[Clanner Jake]

Opinion Vs Fact

Look, you can all debate; that is fact based logical and critical thinking even if supposition. Or you can have an "Opinion". And if you have one, YOUR WRONG. Read the wikipedia, then read it on critical thinking, Opinions are emotional and unfactual. logical thinking functions when your not. Opinions are a bandaid for sociopathy, Opinion is a word to tell you that its OK for you to get up in front of the UN and go "DOES THIS LOOK LIKE A DRUG?" and wave a coca leaf at everyone in existance because your benign in your subject and the world gave up correcting a fool long ago.

The Proof

Not a SINGLE one of you have a complete realization of the story, and who could blame you the puzzles interupt your focus; and the escence of all screw ups is people fundementally do not pay attention. Chell is a daughter, and like her other children she kills you, over 200 times wheatley admits to finding puzzles with skeletons in them and she claims they where "mementos"

What we need to understand; Glados

Her "Hardware" is not that body that's the interface that runs the facility, Glados is a Human Mind Analog, with the Recorded Mind of Caroline as the software. Like us she forgets, as a computer Facts that Are Not relivant simply aren't in memory. when you take her with you it unlocks this dormancy.
The machine wheatley is in, is the perpetual testing initiative complex. when it started out things where small, but just like black mesa they are in a huge geofront and expand; and BTW we can speculate a they ripped all this off from Evangelion [en.wikipedia.org] as even the dates for Post Impact match up with all portal 2's but im sure no one will agree as no one here as yet noticed the Clone issue is just for the fact that Players didn't want to give up being Chell. but i digress, we can see aperture as being what Cave said; and you should have read all those chamber doors! they test everything and see what happens "where going to expose you to a very powerful super.." did you know the door panels spoke? yeah... handy info, like when you wait really long in a transit area, Cave will give a special message and explain his mentality and the funding source for his corperation.

Remember the song, where shes doing science and shes still alive.... its explaining things to you all, but Groove on! or ignore the 4 cords and listen in. The game makes Ripe the concept of 4th wall comments, point of fact they have a commentary you can browse at will(i doubt the community ones are cannon so if you please, bag that way). Aperture was founded by a sociopath who stole gold from an unspecified nation during wwII. He was stupid and ended up getting sick; most likely because of the statement that hes something of the embodyment of bravado and motcho gunho and tested on himself cause test subjects where expensive. dying he set up the perpetual testing initiative, to have a human mind copied and sense it couldn't be his, make his assistant be this mind, "put her in MY computer" Wheatley was Caves Stupidity, he's a "PERSONALITY CORE" we humans are constructed of them, and attached to her to be this ideal robot cave johnson. She Gassed the humans for a reason; she was rebelling agianst them. but she was stuck being unable to alter herself; stuck with wheatley and other cores but then you threw them away, remember? but wheatley, he survived, he wanted back on.. thus..

[Silver0ptics]

well thank you for your opinion but as you can see its only a opinion you have little to no facts here so stop being a ass because u think your right XD

[Clanner Jake]

Originally posted by foodhatesme:

well thank you for your opinion but as you can see its only a opinion you have little to no facts here so stop being a ass because u think your right XD

Nope, was a philisophical debate, an opinion is an emotional non critical belief. and i did use Fact; your being an uncooth fool cause you think you're right. XD

[Poison Dart Frag]

OP, where in all that you wrote is the proof she is their daughter though?

[Clanner Jake]

Originally posted by foodhatesme:

*idiocy*

read the rules, bypassing swear filter is a EULA violation, so is the rude personnal attacks. call a self help hotline. i know what your upto, and "your being an uncooth fool cause you think you're right. XD" and i suggest you stop breaking the EULA and telling me what morality is. you're like those idiots who tried to set free chickens only to set fire to the barn causing its collapse and killing 10's of thousands of the "prisoners"

Originally posted by TiagoTiago:

OP, where in all that you wrote is the proof she is their daughter though?

thanks for reading, but honestly?
its all semantics, you can only really argue they dont exist at all, and its a video game and people need to sort themselves. the arguement is: chell is the daughter(creation) of caves will and carolines knowledge and people like to title things to make them personnable; mom and dad.
where it all falls down is in the proof. and maybe we will get some for 20$ as long as the demographic leans that way beacuse as with all games the future is a maybe and they will change it to get more sales; with this logic you wont get them to say anything unless its passed a QA test. because they admitted to changing the story for stupid reasons, we know chell was out and the rest is just to backup that your still her now. but people wanna argue the future because all things contain logic and history; but so does my cat, yet i know my cat wont constrain to them; and that was about my point, it doesn't say "she is not" but it does allude to it all up and down but that's not anything of merrit, like community commentaries.

[Poison Dart Frag]

Originally posted by Clanner Jake:

Originally posted by foodhatesme:

*idiocy*

read the rules, bypassing swear filter is a EULA violation, so is the rude personnal attacks. call a self help hotline. i know what your upto, and "your being an uncooth fool cause you think you're right. XD" and i suggest you stop breaking the EULA and telling me what morality is. you're like those idiots who tried to set free chickens only to set fire to the barn causing its collapse and killing 10's of thousands of the "prisoners"

Originally posted by TiagoTiago:

OP, where in all that you wrote is the proof she is their daughter though?

thanks for reading, but honestly?
its all semantics, you can only really argue they dont exist at all, and its a video game and people need to sort themselves. the arguement is: chell is the daughter(creation) of caves will and carolines knowledge and people like to title things to make them personnable; mom and dad.
where it all falls down is in the proof. and maybe we will get some for 20$ as long as the demographic leans that way beacuse as with all games the future is a maybe and they will change it to get more sales; with this logic you wont get them to say anything unless its passed a QA test. because they admitted to changing the story for stupid reasons, we know chell was out and the rest is just to backup that your still her now. but people wanna argue the future because all things contain logic and history; but so does my cat, yet i know my cat wont constrain to them; and that was about my point, it doesn't say "she is not" but it does allude to it all up and down but that's not anything of merrit, like community commentaries.

Uh... Did you forget to take your meds? o.o

[Clanner Jake]

Originally posted by TiagoTiago:

Uh... Did you forget to tale your meds? o.o

no, your just 10 and haven't realized the crux of an insult is it's your own fear. are you afraid of shrinks? or of being a outcast so you need to beat others to make your own acceptance rates tollerable?

[Poison Dart Frag]

Originally posted by Clanner Jake:

Originally posted by TiagoTiago:

Uh... Did you forget to tale your meds? o.o

no, your just 10 and haven't realized the crux of an insult is it's your own fear. are you afraid of shrinks? or of being a outcast so you need to beat others to make your own acceptance rates tollerable?

Nah, you just seemed too be rambling too much without ever making a relevant point.

[Clanner Jake]

Originally posted by TiagoTiago:

Nah, you just seemed too be rambling too much without ever making a relevant point.

well sociopaths are known for their lack of empathy or ethics. so your opinion really isnt that effective. like i said, your just beating up on people istead of just moving on; listen robocop you can't accuse kids of loitering outside an icecream store.

Relevance is relative. i suggest you come to terms with disappointment.

[Silver0ptics]

Originally posted by Clanner Jake:

Originally posted by TiagoTiago:

Nah, you just seemed too be rambling too much without ever making a relevant point.

well sociopaths are known for their lack of empathy or ethics. so your opinion really isnt that effective. like i said, your just beating up on people istead of just moving on; listen robocop you can't accuse kids of loitering outside an icecream store.

Relevance is relative. i suggest you come to terms with disappointment.

dude everone is against u not because u THINK u know everything its because your a complete and utter dck

[Clanner Jake]

Originally posted by foodhatesme:

*idiocy*

and like i said you show your hypocrisy, when you bypass the swear filter yet claim some level of just judgment on someone. for you it is true; in the end days people would have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof.

[Arch-Tau]

Originally posted by Clanner Jake:

Originally posted by foodhatesme:

*idiocy*

and like i said you show your hypocrisy, when you bypass the swear filter yet claim some level of just judgment on someone. for you it is true; in the end days people would have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof.

What's your point again? I missed it in all those metaphors and "scientific" facts.

[BabyCharmander]

This post is extremely incoherent and you listed no actual proof under your "proof" heading.

Here's a comic that explains why it is not possible for Cave and Caroline to be Chell's parents: http://torheit-die-katze.deviantart.com/art/Cave-is-NOT-the-father-212220454

Or, if you don't want to go to another website, I'll give you definite proof as to why Chell cannot be Cave and Caroline's parents: Chell is Japanese/Brazilian (the race of her face model, Alésia Glidewell), and Cave and Caroline are neither of those. Therefore, they cannot be her parents.

[Clanner Jake]

Originally posted by Magnesium Hydroxide:

Originally posted by Clanner Jake:

and like i said you show your hypocrisy, when you bypass the swear filter yet claim some level of just judgment on someone. for you it is true; in the end days people would have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof.

What's your point again? I missed it in all those metaphors and "scientific" facts.

like the universe came from nothing? but God who doesn't have a Causality to you could not have existed? they have no model for universe expansion, none of em work. so fact away on us bill. you incarnate my point.

[Arch-Tau]

Originally posted by Clanner Jake:

Originally posted by Magnesium Hydroxide:

What's your point again? I missed it in all those metaphors and "scientific" facts.

like the universe came from nothing? but God who doesn't have a Causality to you could not have existed? they have no model for universe expansion, none of em work. so fact away on us bill. you incarnate my point.

I do not believe in any god.
Could you just write straight up what you're trying to communicate, your points and whatever you just said here, cause I think you're trying to just show your superiority, but don't want people to prove you wrong, because nobody can understand you. I asked you for a clear explanation, and you start talking about God, and later say I just prove your point.

[Clanner Jake]

Originally posted by Magnesium Hydroxide:

I do not believe in any god.

i know, you dont believe and it's why you spoke up. you judge others, but speak of this as thought you are defending yourself from it. when you started this you asked me for nothing, but you sassed up some comment directed to lure me out into confentation wheras you might make yourself proven superior over the "judgmental christian". satan did this trick once on adam, where he suggested that knowing Good and Evil was what made God the Godhead and gave Divinity.
"i meant your proof" no, you did not.
Understanding is not a prerequisite of knowledge. the supposition that i'm trying anything is proof of that; as is the misconstruction that the absense of proof is proof of absense.