[Potential spoilers]How cannon is co op campaign

[dragon864789]

What parts of this campaign cannon And what part aint?

I haven't played co op myself but watched it

But the part that falls apart for me, is the human test subject part.

Cuz wasn't everyone killed by glados and then the test subjects in there boxes as well ? (Due to 7 hour war and or portal storms (shockwaves) causing damage to the aperture facility?), I mean these secret, some how still alive without maintenance or anything to keep them alive, seems a but much

Tho I know glados doesn't care about being help on the combine reign. But uh, I get that portal series is more focused on gameolay, rather then perfecting the storyline but uh
Placed filled of test subjects , ......dang aperture is shady , no wonder why they don't get support in money , also the fact that testing the portal gun is useless at this point, thx to the 7 hour war and the only surface the portals can be on , makes the displacer Canon (from opposing force) more practical thing to sell.


Also the portal/half life time line chart seems pretty suspicious.

[Fox]

It's literally made by valve as an official dlc. It's as cannon as it gets.

[dragon864789]

Originally posted by RedSkittleFox:

It's literally made by valve as an official dlc. It's as cannon as it gets.

Even with the plot holes? , not like portal 2 itself has alot of plot holes already that doesn't add up,

[Mλrtin2H]

Originally posted by dragon864789:

What parts of this campaign cannon And what part aint?

It is all canon.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

But the part that falls apart for me, is the human test subject part.

Cuz wasn't everyone killed by glados and then the test subjects in there boxes as well ?

GlaDOS killed the scientists not the test subjects, she needed the test subjects to test.
Wheatley killed all the test subjects in new aperture but the vault the bots found at the end of coop is in old aperture.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

(Due to 7 hour war and or portal storms (shockwaves) causing damage to the aperture facility?),

As far as we know the 7 hour war did not affect the facility, Aperture decayed because of age.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

I mean these secret, some how still alive without maintenance or anything to keep them alive, seems a but much

The test subjects were kept alive by the pods they were in. It's unrealistic sci-fi tech, there is no need to look into it so much.

[Sharkster_00]

The coop takes place before chell is awaken and the second Coop dlc that you can’t get anymore but required motion controls takes place after chell escaped Aperture Science.

[dragon864789]

Originally posted by Mλrtin2H:

Originally posted by dragon864789:

What parts of this campaign cannon And what part aint?

It is all canon.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

But the part that falls apart for me, is the human test subject part.

Cuz wasn't everyone killed by glados and then the test subjects in there boxes as well ?

GlaDOS killed the scientists not the test subjects, she needed the test subjects to test.
Wheatley killed all the test subjects in new aperture but the vault the bots found at the end of coop is in old aperture.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

(Due to 7 hour war and or portal storms (shockwaves) causing damage to the aperture facility?),

As far as we know the 7 hour war did not affect the facility, Aperture decayed because of age.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

I mean these secret, some how still alive without maintenance or anything to keep them alive, seems a but much

The test subjects were kept alive by the pods they were in. It's unrealistic sci-fi tech, there is no need to look into it so much.

hmmm welll ok but i doubt on the 7 hour war part ..but still plot holes...where to start, one can say

[Mλrtin2H]

Originally posted by dragon864789:

Originally posted by Mλrtin2H:

It is all canon.


GlaDOS killed the scientists not the test subjects, she needed the test subjects to test.
Wheatley killed all the test subjects in new aperture but the vault the bots found at the end of coop is in old aperture.


As far as we know the 7 hour war did not affect the facility, Aperture decayed because of age.


The test subjects were kept alive by the pods they were in. It's unrealistic sci-fi tech, there is no need to look into it so much.

hmmm welll ok but i doubt on the 7 hour war part ..but still plot holes...where to start, one can say

what plot holes?

[dragon864789]

Originally posted by Mλrtin2H:

Originally posted by dragon864789:

hmmm welll ok but i doubt on the 7 hour war part ..but still plot holes...where to start, one can say

what plot holes?

where do you want to start and you should know, since you got like 600 hours on portal series, (but ignore the fact of the resused assets from half life series, but that also brights plot holes in itself, even the color and noise designs of the turrents , tho there design doesnt work for recoil XD),



also there is no way portal takes place more then 20 years

[Mλrtin2H]

Originally posted by dragon864789:

where do you want to start and you should know, since you got like 600 hours on portal series, (but ignore the fact of the resused assets from half life series, but that also brights plot holes in itself, even the color and noise designs of the turrents , tho there design doesnt work for recoil XD),

Where is no reason to look into it too much. Yes, they resused assets, they were not thinking about the lore when they did that. I guess that's plot hole but it's not that important.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

also there is no way portal takes place more then 20 years

What does this mean?

Also, the reason I asked you is because I want to know what you mean, what are the things you consider plot holes?

[dragon864789]

i mean stuff that doesnt make sense in the story, from portal 1 to 2 or otherway around, portals story in all that in the half life universe , (also the fact of why glados is still testing a product that has no point in more testing, thx to the 7 hour war, there will be no buyers, no one cant really use it, and also black mesa already had something like the portal gun but its way better, despite its secondary fire is chance of if your gonna fall in a void (well thats actually just one time )

also the turrets design cant work (it would just tip over after no more then 5 shots, or break)
glados magically appering in the room we "fought her",

the outside damage on the facility is from 7 hour war and not from the ending of portal 1,

the ending of portal 1 doesnt make sense, as to why would destroying Glados cores will cause here to malfunction and spin into the sky (that really doesnt make sense and we all know it)

why does apperture science waste so much material and space vs there competitor?
why does apperture (glados) not want to help humans against the combine reign and or stop the combine from getting to the borialis (not like she knows anything about the combine or there intention, so no blame there)

but i could say more, if i had played the portal games recently but i didnt in some time but i remember some stuff that didnt add up or make sense.
it feels as if the portal series was more perfected in most thing but the story and what made sense in the enviroment and so on....idk,


Black mesa is best and acutally have better "portals" that can go to a to b or to XEN
and not something thats only limited to moon material

[Mλrtin2H]

Originally posted by dragon864789:

(also the fact of why glados is still testing a product that has no point in more testing, thx to the 7 hour war, there will be no buyers, no one cant really use it,

GLaDOS tests because she is dedicated to science, she does not care about buyers, or humans, she hates humans.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

and also black mesa already had something like the portal gun but its way better, despite its secondary fire is chance of if your gonna fall in a void (well thats actually just one time )

Just because Black Mesa also had portal technology does not mean that Aperture can't research it too. Also Black Mesa's portal technology was top secret, Aperture did not know about it.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

also the turrets design cant work (it would just tip over after no more then 5 shots, or break)

Yeah I guess that is true but it's a sci-fi game with robots and portals I think we can excuse it going against the laws of physics a little bit.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

glados magically appering in the room we "fought her",

You mean how she appears in her room in Portal 2 after getting blown out the top of the room in Portal 1? Yeah I guess that is a plot hole but it does not affect anything, robots probably brought her back in. There are many explanations you can think of before saying "magically".

Originally posted by dragon864789:

the outside damage on the facility is from 7 hour war and not from the ending of portal 1,

The only time we have seen the portal storms cause damage is in EP2 when it collapsed a rusty old bridge I don't think they are as destructive as you think they are. Aperture is under the ground. If the portal storms happened outside the facility then they wouldn't affect it. As for the Xen creatures, I think aperture has more than enough firepower to deal with that.
In Portal 2 we see that the facility is filled with plants and the walls are decaying because of age. The facility was not damaged by anything, it has only decayed.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

he ending of portal 1 doesnt make sense, as to why would destroying Glados cores will cause here to malfunction and spin into the sky (that really doesnt make sense and we all know it)

You are right about this, it does not make sense, but again this is not a major story issue.
How I always imagined it is that the cores became part of her over time and destroying them hurt her because we were basically ripping parts off of her and burning them. Burning all of them overloaded her systems and made her explode.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

why does apperture science waste so much material and space vs there competitor?

What do you mean by this?

Originally posted by dragon864789:

why does apperture (glados) not want to help humans against the combine reign and or stop the combine from getting to the borialis (not like she knows anything about the combine or there intention, so no blame there)

GLaDOS does not care about humans, the only thing she cares about is science. She also doesn't know about the Borealis.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

and not something thats only limited to moon material

The portals are not limited to moon rocks. They can appear on any white surface. Cave Johnson said that moon rocks were a good portal conductor, he did not say that it was the only one. Also Aperture has been using portals since the 50s way before they bought the moon rocks.

[dragon864789]

well still, the game doesnt really seem story driven and the the forms talking about this stuff , can say it better then i, (and yes you know what i mean, by apperture wastes so much material/ resources and space, compared to black mesa)

but yea im more convinced that portal is just more focuzed and polished on gameplay, and portal puzzles, not as much as in story (or what little of, there is) and enviroment

and apperature in under ground huh? then why do we see the sun and huge building and what not on ground? in both games?

and portal storms are no limited to the one we seend from episode 2, there is the one just before 7 hour war,

also if glados did kill everyone that day, where are there bodies and skeletons?

how has the rest of appperature not fell in the huge hole in the earth? with the limited supports with no maintenance in over 20 years, a


also its wonders how the combine havent found apperature science facility (and no its not just underground and everyone knows that)...

and if the portal gun can go on other surfaces, then was it put inthe games mechanics? i dont ever remember that being the case.

and if Glados cares about her tests, she will help the resistance, but no, she doesnt care if the combine find her and reuse here body (once she has been extracted of info and converted to there own use,

also this rat man guy, he is a big problem in the story, how they hell does this guy some how find 20 years of food and also survived. (maybe woke up from a pod but no one knows) but still, there wouldnt be enough food for him to still be alive. there cant be a good excuse id say, but who knows

also uh.... the boots..........well thats just logic defying

also how is there still power in the older parts of the facility?
why couldnt they reuse the older parts? why did it have to start, so deep?
why the ♥♥♥♥ do they need these huge ass vault doors? vs a normal door?

also why does the cores have to be big and personified?
why does apperature feel like an older futurestic styled company vs black mesa

why is apperature using some concerning sounding generator for power?

why does the portal gun have a graby fuction like the gravity gun? (gravity gun is way better then the portal gun, )

also why is the potato still growing after 40+ years?

why does the portals can be on moving surfaces, even tho it was said thay cant?

why is the neurotxin machine being repaired way to fast and where does it even get the stuff to make that gas? why do they even have it anyways?

isnt the potato glados, just literally the led light of her eye? cuz there will have to been way more of her stuff needed, for her to even fuction, let alone in power


just ....what, just a good amount of stuff that doesnt make sense to me and the story

[dragon864789]

but like ,its what ever but, its just doesnt make alot of sense

[Mλrtin2H]

Originally posted by dragon864789:

well still, the game doesnt really seem story driven
but yea im more convinced that portal is just more focuzed and polished on gameplay, and portal puzzles, not as much as in story (or what little of, there is) and enviroment

STORY does not mean what you think it means. A story is not about the tiny little details, It is about the characters, their feelings and thoughts and their actions. The writers use these to tell an entertaining and meaningful story. It is not about tiny details like "why don't the turrets fall over". You can't expect them to explain everything, some things just don't make since and that's okay because creating the most realistic world ever made was not their goal, their goal was to tell a story. Portal 2 is story driven there is a lot of story, it has some of the greatest writing ever written for a video game. You're focusing of the wrong aspects of it.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

(and yes you know what i mean, by apperture wastes so much material/ resources and space, compared to black mesa)

Most of the Enrichment Center looks just like Black Mesa, it just offices and labs. But it also has testing areas, big empty spaces where tests are built. I'm assuming you are talking about that. When they are done with a test they can just move it out of the way, disassemble it and build a new test. They also probably reuse all the old materials from the old tests.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

and apperature in under ground huh? then why do we see the sun and huge building and what not on ground? in both games?

All of Aperture is underground It was all built into an old salt mine. There might be a few buildings on the surface but we don't know. Whenever you see sunlight in Portal 2 it's because the top of the facility has collapsed, but you are still underground. There is never a point in portal where you see a "huge building" outside. The only times you see the outside is at the end of both games, in Portal 1 you see a parking lot and in Portal 2 you see a wheat field.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

and portal storms are no limited to the one we seend from episode 2, there is the one just before 7 hour war,

In the story there were portal storms before the 7 hour war but we didn't see those. We don't know if the caused any damage.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

also if glados did kill everyone that day, where are there bodies and skeletons?

She cleaned up the bodies, she killed everyone a decade before Portal 1, she had time. Around the end of Portal 2 in the Wheatley tests, Wheatley says that he found a sealed off wing of tests filled with skeletons. Those might be the scientists.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

how has the rest of appperature not fell in the huge hole in the earth? with the limited supports with no maintenance in over 20 years, a

The facility is not hanging above a huge hole, it is on the ground. At the end of Chapter 7 in Portal 2 you can see the bottom of new Aperture, it has supports that connect it to the ground. Most of the facility has collapsed in the time between Portal 1 and 2, we just don't see it, GLaDOS talks about having to clean everything up.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

also its wonders how the combine havent found apperature science facility (and no its not just underground and everyone knows that)...

The Combine know about Aperture. GLaDOS in Portal 1 says that she is keeping them out.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

and if the portal gun can go on other surfaces, then was it put inthe games mechanics? i dont ever remember that being the case.

I don't know what you mean. It was never said that portals can only appear on moon rocks. In Portal 1 the walls are clearly just unpainted concrete. And again, Aperture used portals in the 50s, decades before humans landed on the moon.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

and if Glados cares about her tests, she will help the resistance, but no, she doesnt care if the combine find her and reuse here body (once she has been extracted of info and converted to there own use,

Again, the Combine know, and they can't get into Aperture.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

also this rat man guy, he is a big problem in the story, how they hell does this guy some how find 20 years of food and also survived. (maybe woke up from a pod but no one knows) but still, there wouldnt be enough food for him to still be alive. there cant be a good excuse id say, but who knows

Aperture is big, really big. We don't know how much food is in it. He probably did wake up from a pod as seen in the comic.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

also uh.... the boots..........well thats just logic defying

Yeah the boots don't make sense but again, no need to focus on the tiny details.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

also how is there still power in the older parts of the facility?

Old Aperture is probably connected to the same power grid as new Aperture.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

why did it have to start, so deep?

Because they wanted it that way. The only people who know the answer to this is the people who wrote the game.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

why couldnt they reuse the older parts?
why the ♥♥♥♥ do they need these huge ass vault doors? vs a normal door?

The 50s part of the facility was sealed off in 1961 with a big door because of an accident. It was no longer safe to work there.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

also why does the cores have to be big and personified?

Probably to look more friendly to humans.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

why does apperature feel like an older futurestic styled company vs black mesa

I don't know what this means.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

why is apperature using some concerning sounding generator for power?

No idea what you mean.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

why does the portal gun have a graby ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like the gravity gun? (gravity gun is way better then the portal gun, )

Aperture probably invented a similar technology as the gravity gun and decided to up it on the portal gun. Again, you are focusing on tiny meaningless details.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

also why is the potato still growing after 40+ years?

It's a plant, is grows until it has water and light.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

why does the portals can be on moving surfaces, even tho it was said thay cant?

No one said that they can't, Maybe the ones that more are a special type of surface.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

why is the neurotxin machine being repaired way to fast and where does it even get the stuff to make that gas? why do they even have it anyways?

In the comic the scientists gave GLaDOS nerotoxin because she wanted it. I don't think it is hard for a science company to get the materials for nerotoxin.

Originally posted by dragon864789:

isnt the potato glados, just literally the led light of her eye? cuz there will have to been way more of her stuff needed, for her to even ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, let alone in power

Yeah, Potato GLaDOS makes no sense but again it's just unrealistic sci-fi tech.

[dragon864789]

uh....in portal 1 glaods said she was keeping them out,,,,,,i think she is talking about 7 hour war, not the combine exaclty, they would be fighting the human forces

but yea i dont think there is much point,l point stuff out anymore if most has been said and done in forums of old, and also you seem to be one of those people and i dont fee llike explaining

[Mλrtin2H]

Originally posted by dragon864789:

uh....in portal 1 glaods said she was keeping them out,,,,,,i think she is talking about 7 hour war, not the combine exaclty, they would be fighting the human forces

but yea i dont think there is much point,l point stuff out anymore if most has been said and done in forums of old, and also you seem to be one of those people and i dont fee llike explaining

Portal 1 takes place after the 7 hour war. She was talking about the Combine.