Enemy minimum level

[Razer]

So I understand there's such a thing as minimum level and level scaling with equipment (rolls eyes at the latter). But I can't find this referenced in the game. So how do people know or where do I find out what level of equipment is fair for which encounter?

[Demian]

There is no fair level of equipment/gear, because you can beat the game on Apocalypse with level 1 weapon, without using armor, without upgrading any traits.
If you are a new player, you just upgrade your weapon and armor when you can. The whole game is a learning of attack patterns of enemies.

[Joreck]

inventory --> show advanced stats --> rating vs. zone. this tells you how you fare against the area you're currently in.

once a zone's level is set (ie once you've entered it for the first time), it doesn't change anymore.

[Razer]

Originally posted by Joreck:

inventory --> show advanced stats --> rating vs. zone. this tells you how you fare against the area you're currently in.

once a zone's level is set (ie once you've entered it for the first time), it doesn't change anymore.

Thanks Joreck, this was what I was looking for.

Originally posted by Damien:

There is no fair level of equipment/gear, because you can beat the game on Apocalypse with level 1 weapon, without using armor, without upgrading any traits.
If you are a new player, you just upgrade your weapon and armor when you can. The whole game is a learning of attack patterns of enemies.

Not sure what prompted an elitist response about skill. I asked a simple question about where you can see enemy levels.

[𝕊𝕠𝕡𝕙𝕚𝕒]

Originally posted by Razer:

Originally posted by Joreck:

inventory --> show advanced stats --> rating vs. zone. this tells you how you fare against the area you're currently in.

once a zone's level is set (ie once you've entered it for the first time), it doesn't change anymore.

Thanks Joreck, this was what I was looking for.

Originally posted by Damien:

There is no fair level of equipment/gear, because you can beat the game on Apocalypse with level 1 weapon, without using armor, without upgrading any traits.
If you are a new player, you just upgrade your weapon and armor when you can. The whole game is a learning of attack patterns of enemies.

Not sure what prompted an elitist response about skill. I asked a simple question about where you can see enemy levels.

One thing that is worth mentioning.
If you start campain at level 1 finish it with level 20 and reload it dont think enemies on earth will stay at level 1-5
They will start at level 22.same goes for adventure mode,

This is what I like to calls ♥♥♥♥ false sense of progression, where leveling up your weapon immediately makes you deal less damage because enemies have more hp and leveling your armor instantly makes you take more damage because it boost enemies damage.

[Razer]

Originally posted by 𝕊𝕠𝕡𝕙𝕚𝕒:

Originally posted by Razer:

Thanks Joreck, this was what I was looking for.


Not sure what prompted an elitist response about skill. I asked a simple question about where you can see enemy levels.

One thing that is worth mentioning.
If you start campain at level 1 finish it with level 20 and reload it dont think enemies on earth will stay at level 1-5
They will start at level 22.same goes for adventure mode,

This is what I like to calls ♥♥♥♥ false sense of progression, where leveling up your weapon immediately makes you deal less damage because enemies have more hp and leveling your armor instantly makes you take more damage because it boost enemies damage.

Yea I'm not a fan of scaling enemies. One of the worst offenders imo is Fallout 76, you could level up mid fight and you don't gain any benefits but remaining enemies get stronger right that instant. So levelling up just makes you weaker in comparison. It's completely bogus.

But as I understand it enemy level is linked to gear level and not to Trait level, so you can spend points as you go without worry. Are there any traits that increase gun damage? So far I have one that increases melee by 1% per point.

[Joreck]

Originally posted by Razer:

Yea I'm not a fan of scaling enemies. One of the worst offenders imo is Fallout 76, you could level up mid fight and you don't gain any benefits but remaining enemies get stronger right that instant. So levelling up just makes you weaker in comparison. It's completely bogus.

But as I understand it enemy level is linked to gear level and not to Trait level, so you can spend points as you go without worry. Are there any traits that increase gun damage? So far I have one that increases melee by 1% per point.

yeah, there are a bunch of dps increasing traits (50 total, you can max them all - no impact on enemy scaling).

SubjectToChange's Unlock Checklist: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RxSkDzYtLXKGWXNQlgmAw1-Lulfmk6yXxGCcI6gpME8/edit?usp=sharing

[Razer]

Originally posted by Joreck:

Originally posted by Razer:

Yea I'm not a fan of scaling enemies. One of the worst offenders imo is Fallout 76, you could level up mid fight and you don't gain any benefits but remaining enemies get stronger right that instant. So levelling up just makes you weaker in comparison. It's completely bogus.

But as I understand it enemy level is linked to gear level and not to Trait level, so you can spend points as you go without worry. Are there any traits that increase gun damage? So far I have one that increases melee by 1% per point.

yeah, there are a bunch of dps increasing traits (50 total, you can max them all - no impact on enemy scaling).

SubjectToChange's Unlock Checklist: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RxSkDzYtLXKGWXNQlgmAw1-Lulfmk6yXxGCcI6gpME8/edit?usp=sharing

Ah cool. So there's lots of progression from killing bosses and levelling up. Good to know. Thanks!

[striker4166]

Originally posted by Damien:

There is no fair level of equipment/gear, because you can beat the game on Apocalypse with level 1 weapon, without using armor, without upgrading any traits.
If you are a new player, you just upgrade your weapon and armor when you can. The whole game is a learning of attack patterns of enemies.

you can???