Remnant: From the Ashes

Remnant: From the Ashes

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DLC FREE for steam user
Since Dev give the game for free on Epic we want the DLC for free in return
Nguyên văn bởi Countdown:
Nguyên văn bởi USG Hitman2b:
Since Dev give the game for free on Epic we want the DLC for free in return

I understand why you are upset, and your points and feelings are valid.
However, the developer (Gunfire Games) is likely not responsible in this case, the publisher (Perfect World) most likely is.

It is the developers job to create and fix the game itself, but they often do not have the money to produce or "publish" the game, so they find a company with money and sell them their product. In this case, that product is Remnant, and the publisher is Perfect World.

Once the game is sold to the Publisher, it is their responsibility to insure the advertising, sale and marketing of the game to make profits. Contracts get signed with platforms, based on what is good for making the most profit at the time, sometimes with the developers feelings in mind, sometimes not.

In a purely business sense "on paper" the publisher made the right call. They have a game that has sold pretty well on one platform, but is nearing the end of it's life cycle, so they want to maximize their investment and move the game over to a second platform. It doesn't have to make good moral sense to make good financial sense.

If I were the developer, I would not "love" this, but I am also getting a PORTION of the money, so I will go along with it, because ultimately it's the publishers shot to make.

The publisher may have even been warned about the backlash by the developer, weighed the pros and the cons and said "nah, we're doing it anyway."

So... in that situation the developer has their hands tied. They want to put out a good product (which they do) and they want to keep balancing their game (which they do) but the sale of their product to a new platform is causing problems (which is not their fault).

It may take a day to fix, it may take a week, it may take a month... and you are right to be frustrated, but not at the developers, who I am sure are working nonstop to try to fix it, so they can keep you (and everyone) as a customer, and restore all the goodwill they have built with us so far.

This has been my TED Talk.
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NichtDave 20 Thg08, 2020 @ 5:40am 
or: support the devs since 10 bucks is nothing but the game is worth way more...
Nguyên văn bởi DeV4der | Dave:
or: support the devs since 10 bucks is nothing but the game is worth way more...
the game would be worth alot more if they still continued adding more zone in the game but since it's the last DLC also i never said i will not buy it
Crossaber 20 Thg08, 2020 @ 5:46am 
Epic paid the core game already so epic users can play for free, doesn’t mean the game is actually free. If you enjoy the game should pay to show some support.

This game cost vs value is very high imo. There are tons of 3A games out there totally not worth the price tag. Remnant, on the other hand worth every penny.
Elenvin 20 Thg08, 2020 @ 5:59am 
You can always wait a year as Epic did for the main game giveaway and hope Steam will be generous enough to pay Gunfire to give the DLC to it's loyal users for free.

But whom am I kidding, we are talking about Steam. ;-)
Nguyên văn bởi Elenvin:
You can always wait a year as Epic did for the main game giveaway and hope Steam will be generous enough to pay Gunfire to give the DLC to it's loyal users for free.

But whom am I kidding, we are talking about Steam. ;-)
am no worry epic will be on the verge of dying after the fail they will have against google and apple
Elenvin 20 Thg08, 2020 @ 6:07am 
While I understand some users got upset by the Epic giveaway, personally I'll gladly support the game developers and buy the DLC day one. I wish they would even add some cosmetics to the game so one could support them even more.

If not for the great game they made and so many of us love, then at least in hope they would reconsider this being the final DLC and make many more.
Nguyên văn bởi Elenvin:
While I understand some users got upset by the Epic giveaway, personally I'll gladly support the game developers and buy the DLC day one. I wish they would even add some cosmetics to the game so one could support them even more.

If not for the great game they made and so many of us love, then at least in hope they would reconsider this being the final DLC and make many more.
there is cosmetics and you can buy them in game and that better
and i agree on that last sentence they should reconsidere this being the final DLC and make more content for this game
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Countdown 20 Thg08, 2020 @ 6:36am 
Nguyên văn bởi USG Hitman2b:
Since Dev give the game for free on Epic we want the DLC for free in return

I understand why you are upset, and your points and feelings are valid.
However, the developer (Gunfire Games) is likely not responsible in this case, the publisher (Perfect World) most likely is.

It is the developers job to create and fix the game itself, but they often do not have the money to produce or "publish" the game, so they find a company with money and sell them their product. In this case, that product is Remnant, and the publisher is Perfect World.

Once the game is sold to the Publisher, it is their responsibility to insure the advertising, sale and marketing of the game to make profits. Contracts get signed with platforms, based on what is good for making the most profit at the time, sometimes with the developers feelings in mind, sometimes not.

In a purely business sense "on paper" the publisher made the right call. They have a game that has sold pretty well on one platform, but is nearing the end of it's life cycle, so they want to maximize their investment and move the game over to a second platform. It doesn't have to make good moral sense to make good financial sense.

If I were the developer, I would not "love" this, but I am also getting a PORTION of the money, so I will go along with it, because ultimately it's the publishers shot to make.

The publisher may have even been warned about the backlash by the developer, weighed the pros and the cons and said "nah, we're doing it anyway."

So... in that situation the developer has their hands tied. They want to put out a good product (which they do) and they want to keep balancing their game (which they do) but the sale of their product to a new platform is causing problems (which is not their fault).

It may take a day to fix, it may take a week, it may take a month... and you are right to be frustrated, but not at the developers, who I am sure are working nonstop to try to fix it, so they can keep you (and everyone) as a customer, and restore all the goodwill they have built with us so far.

This has been my TED Talk.
Lần sửa cuối bởi Countdown; 20 Thg08, 2020 @ 6:38am
Aryend 20 Thg08, 2020 @ 6:45am 
While I don't agree with the notion that the dlc should be free because they gave the game away on Epic.... Must say it surely is a nasty surprise wanting to get back in the game and play the new dlc just to find out the multiplayer doesn't work because they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up with EGS services integration... They'd better fix that or they're not seeing any more money from me for this and future projects.
It was free on epic because epic paid for it. Steam has too many features that have become the norm, like this forum. I doubt epic will ever be as good as steam but we got the bomber hat that was excluvise to the consoles....isn't that enough reward you greedy root creatures:)
onesecondbaobab 20 Thg08, 2020 @ 4:03pm 
Nguyên văn bởi USG Hitman2b:
Nguyên văn bởi Optimist Prime (the Gray):
ironically, giving Steam users the DLC for free would mean that the developers would get less money, and we'd all end up getting less game in the long-run. Your proposal at the start of this thread hurts the developers by taking away revenue, and hurt the players by diminishing the likelihood of receiving more content/support in the long-term.

Steam players buying the DLC will give the developers more money to work on more content in the future.

What are you even arguing for, at this point?
I assume it's just "I want X for free, give it to me."
no since they get the money from epic for all copy the players receive by that logic the Dlc on steam should be free paid by the devellopers themself or the publisher since it perfect world

also there no more content in the future for this game as dev said it's a one-shot game instead of a live service one which is the most stupid idea they get since the game as more to offer then that

I’m completely ok with the fact that I can support the developers and publisher in a financial way. Hopefully, we will see another expansions, or even sequel maybe someday :3
Mudd 20 Thg08, 2020 @ 4:17pm 
Nguyên văn bởi WSkD:
Nguyên văn bởi Carnage:
Gotta love the self entitlement. I'd say this kid is like 12 since he thinks he should get the DLC for free just because Epic Users got the game for free.
I think he means not because Epic got it free but because of implementation of EOS (Epic Online Service) which broke the multiplayer (which is for some the whole game), the game does not work for days and no word from the devs about it.
Yeah, it is not worth a free ticket but they could at least say sorry and revert the change until they make it work.
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This, exactly. I played the campaign for a little while, but I pretty much only play survival mode. And I pretty much only play coop survival mode because A) I'm not that good and B) Death at knockdown makes the game that much harder.

The game has been broken for a while now. I'm not normally one to ask for handouts, but the people that bought this game should be given the DLC for free for the trouble. They are only asking $10 for the DLC, but it isn't about the money; it's about the principle. This seems like Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition all over again. So, in that sense, this steaming pile is very "Souls-like," indeed!
Mudd 20 Thg08, 2020 @ 4:26pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Iniquity:
Nguyên văn bởi Senji:
Can you guys ♥♥♥♥♥ stop rant for everything for the past weak . Holy sh. This forum went into a total "this game too hard" and "omg and i wasted money on this game" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ?!

Just leave the community , uninstall the game and never come back if you are so extremly against everything that is currently happening and the entire content. FFS -.-#

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Misstakes happen and they are not freakn Blizzard who have millions and/or tons of devs/programmer to instant fix -----> 7.8 GB <----- of update.

PPL these days bash on every freakn misstake . Grow up or get out of here .
I like the game , i don't like the bugs and issues currently but I'm not butthurt and ofc I would be also mad if the release would be buggy or with struggle BUT DUDE ... it's a a huge update and this game is a sleeper for some ppl so the servers will be struggling too on release. Just be SOMEWHAT realistic and understandable for a second and not only be a greedy selfish ignorant customer !

If you don't like what is happening on the discussion page "Just leave the community , uninstall the game and never come back if you are so extremly against everything that is currently happening"
There are alot of problems atm and people have the right to complain about things.
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I PAYED for a game that was functional until a week ago. Seems the money from the great number of copies that Epic payed for could go toward fixing the broken game for all the people that actually bought the game. A lot of us are rightfully upset. If you disagree with what people say, whatever; state your opinions. But no one likes forum police, dude.
Nguyên văn bởi >< V ><:
I didn't support his thread when I first read it, but I've changed my mind.

If Gunfire Games needs a bucket of cash to switch to Epic, then I expect the same. If you want me to switch to Epic, then give me a bucket of cash.

I thought you were going to go, since Epic gave the main game away for free. Steam should do the same with this DLC! :)
Sterling (Bị đình chỉ) 20 Thg08, 2020 @ 4:28pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Horrorscope CC97:
Nguyên văn bởi >< V ><:
I didn't support his thread when I first read it, but I've changed my mind.

If Gunfire Games needs a bucket of cash to switch to Epic, then I expect the same. If you want me to switch to Epic, then give me a bucket of cash.
I thought you were going to go, since Epic gave the main game away for free. Steam should do the same with this DLC! :)
Why would a DLC that launched about a day ago be given away for free?
Lần sửa cuối bởi Sterling; 20 Thg08, 2020 @ 4:29pm
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