Gear Score?

[Zep]

Hi guys!

I'm playing at nightmare level with a fresh character (with hardcore items).

The highest level of all my weapons and armor is 6 (equiped and not equiped, all).

Highest level of my melee weapon is 0, never leveled up.

My gear score says is 10.

Shouldn't it be 5?

According with what I've been reading:

Chest, legs, helm, rifle, pistol, sword

6 + 6 + 6 + 6 + 6 + 0 = 30

30/6=5

Can someone explain me how this works?

Apparently, I don't understand it.

Thank you!

[^DreeMax^]

What is your highest upgraded item in each spot? I mean not equipped one, just the highest?

[Zep]

Originally posted by ^FuN^ DreeMax:

What is your highest upgraded item in each spot? I mean not equipped one, just the highest?

6

Equipped gear and inventory.
Max is 6 for everything unless the melee weapons, are all in 0.

[^DreeMax^]

This is something new. Looks like some bug.

[ЯeÐ ĄnimaŁ ШaЯ]

You probably have a boss weapon upgraded to +6 that counts as +12 and that bumbs up your gear score to 10.

[Zep]

Originally posted by ЯeÐ ĄnimaŁ ШaЯ:

You probably have a boss weapon upgraded to +6 that counts as +12 and that bumbs up your gear score to 10.

Oh.
Yes, I have some boss weapons upgraded up to 6 (Devastator, Ruin, Crossbow).

I didn't know that they count double for gear score.


That also means that if I upgrade bought weapons up to 12 my gear score won't go up?


Did the devs explained that somewhere?

Thanks!

[^DreeMax^]

Originally posted by zep:

Originally posted by ЯeÐ ĄnimaŁ ШaЯ:

You probably have a boss weapon upgraded to +6 that counts as +12 and that bumbs up your gear score to 10.

Oh.
Yes, I have some boss weapons upgraded up to 6 (Devastator, Ruin, Crossbow).

I didn't know that they count double for gear score.


That also means that if I upgrade bought weapons up to 12 my gear score won't go up?


Did the devs explained that somewhere?

Thanks!

Well there is wiki of game, Its mentioned boss weapons have max upgrade level of 10 and each upgrade is counting as +2 upgrades of ordinary weapons.

[Zep]

Originally posted by ^FuN^ DreeMax:

Originally posted by zep:

Oh.
Yes, I have some boss weapons upgraded up to 6 (Devastator, Ruin, Crossbow).

I didn't know that they count double for gear score.


That also means that if I upgrade bought weapons up to 12 my gear score won't go up?


Did the devs explained that somewhere?

Thanks!

Well there is wiki of game, Its mentioned boss weapons have max upgrade level of 10 and each upgrade is counting as +2 upgrades of ordinary weapons.

yes, i know that wiki, is fantastic!
but i haven't read it all, just the things I need to know at the moment.
Thank you very much for your answers guys!

[ЯeÐ ĄnimaŁ ШaЯ]

Originally posted by zep:

Originally posted by ЯeÐ ĄnimaŁ ШaЯ:

You probably have a boss weapon upgraded to +6 that counts as +12 and that bumbs up your gear score to 10.

Oh.
Yes, I have some boss weapons upgraded up to 6 (Devastator, Ruin, Crossbow).

I didn't know that they count double for gear score.


That also means that if I upgrade bought weapons up to 12 my gear score won't go up?


Did the devs explained that somewhere?

Thanks!

Boss weapons go to +10 and count double and normals go to +20.

So if your current gear score is 10 with everything counted in and your highest weapon is a +6 boss weapon then this means if you will upgrade all your armor and guns to +6/+12 then your gear score will go up to +12 (obviously). Even after knowing it happens to people that they accidentally go higher then they wanted, it can be confusing.

[Zep]

Originally posted by ЯeÐ ĄnimaŁ ШaЯ:

Originally posted by zep:

Oh.
Yes, I have some boss weapons upgraded up to 6 (Devastator, Ruin, Crossbow).

I didn't know that they count double for gear score.


That also means that if I upgrade bought weapons up to 12 my gear score won't go up?


Did the devs explained that somewhere?

Thanks!

Boss weapons go to +10 and count double and normals go to +20.

So if your current gear score is 10 with everything counted in and your highest weapon is a +6 boss weapon then this means if you will upgrade all your armor and guns to +6/+12 then your gear score will go up to +12 (obviously). Even after knowing it happens to people that they accidentally go higher then they wanted, it can be confusing.

Yes, the system of difficulty and gear score is a little confusing.

I upgraded my coach gun (not a boss weapon) up to 12 and my gear score is still 10.
So yes, my weapons are counting as 12.
So I think that I can upgrade all primary weapons up to 12 now, and still be 10.

Don't know what happens with secondary weapons, I mean, Defiler, Hive Cannon, they are at 6 now.
Are they counting as 12 too?

[ЯeÐ ĄnimaŁ ШaЯ]

Yes pretty much all weapons with fixed mods are boss weapons, the ones you build at the annoyed girl with boss parts. Not sure how you can easy spot melee boss weapons but I think they have special passive abilities the normal ones are lacking.

So the hive cannon, defiler are boss weapons. There is no boss armor.

Where is your calculation coming from? I am not sure if its calculated like that.

(12+0+12+6+6+6)/6=7 so it does not seem to work like that. Assuming you had handgun and main gun boss +6. If goes by inventory not equipped. So you sure you not ever upgraded any melee weapon?

I think its rounded up in case.

[Zep]

Well, today I thought i found the answer but apparently not.

I was thinking that the armor sets that starts with +6 (void, slayer) were counting like +12.

Numbers were going exactly.

12+12+0+12+12+12=60
60/6= 10
So was perfect.

But I upgraded a non boss boots to 12 (cultist), and gear score went up to 11.

So armor sets are not counting as 12.

So i'm still confusing on how the calculations are done.


"Tragic" (aka Ben Cureton - Principal Designer) says at the reddit post this:


"So, if you have a +5 gun (so level 6 behind the scenes), a +3 secondary gun, a +2 sword, and +1 armor (all 3 slots) your weighted afterage is about level 5"

5+3+2+1+1+1=13
13/6= 2.2 not 5

but considering that the level for calculations could be +1 per each (because 0 is the "first" level behind the scenes)

6+4+3+2+2+2=19
19/6=3.16 not 5

I can't undestand why he says is 5, what maths he does.

Someone understand?
Please explain.
Thanks!!

[Fhursten]

Im playing this game right now and this strange gear score system they have has sent me out searching for answers to make sense out of it. It does NOT take the average gear score at all as they claim because calculating the average always give lower numbers then what your gear score says.

This is taking all the joy out of the game for me and i wish i had known of this before i bought it. Having to min/max ur gear score in order to not screw urself over without knowing how their math works is extremely frustrating.

[^DreeMax^]

Originally posted by Fhursten:

Im playing this game right now and this strange gear score system they have has sent me out searching for answers to make sense out of it. It does NOT take the average gear score at all as they claim because calculating the average always give lower numbers then what your gear score says.

This is taking all the joy out of the game for me and i wish i had known of this before i bought it. Having to min/max ur gear score in order to not screw urself over without knowing how their math works is extremely frustrating.

You probably don't know about boss weapons counting as +2 in each upgrade. So boss weapon at 10 is counting as 20 for ordinary weapons. Hear score summary is pretty accurate.

[Fhursten]

Originally posted by ^FuN^ DreeMax:

Originally posted by Fhursten:

Im playing this game right now and this strange gear score system they have has sent me out searching for answers to make sense out of it. It does NOT take the average gear score at all as they claim because calculating the average always give lower numbers then what your gear score says.

This is taking all the joy out of the game for me and i wish i had known of this before i bought it. Having to min/max ur gear score in order to not screw urself over without knowing how their math works is extremely frustrating.

You probably don't know about boss weapons counting as +2 in each upgrade. So boss weapon at 10 is counting as 20 for ordinary weapons. Hear score summary is pretty accurate.

i do know that, its stated in this very thread. Still the average doesnt equal the "gear score"

[^DreeMax^]

Originally posted by Fhursten:

Originally posted by ^FuN^ DreeMax:

You probably don't know about boss weapons counting as +2 in each upgrade. So boss weapon at 10 is counting as 20 for ordinary weapons. Hear score summary is pretty accurate.

i do know that, its stated in this very thread. Still the average doesnt equal the "gear score"

It's usually really accurate. Dunno what cause this in your situation.