Cheaters

[Huh?]

Are devs doing anyting about the cheaters? I already seen multiple. People that have unlimited magazines, that shoot shotguns like submachineguns, some simply have godmode on, ridiculous really, i hope joining these games dont mess up my game file, and i wont fall victim to banhammer in the future when it happens.

[ariba]

Originally posted by HEDSTOMPA:

\ i hope joining these games dont mess up my game file, and i wont fall victim to banhammer in the future when it happens.

They might mess up your files and it might get you banned. Be careful. If you think someone's cheating then just disconnect immediately.

[Huh?]

Originally posted by ariba:

Originally posted by HEDSTOMPA:

\ i hope joining these games dont mess up my game file, and i wont fall victim to banhammer in the future when it happens.

They might mess up your files and it might get you banned. Be careful. If you think someone's cheating then just disconnect immediately.

Thats what im doing, but , you understand, that it takes some time to spot this...♥♥♥♥....

[Starcut]

lol it won't get you banned, though it can mess up your game.

[DEVILDICE]

There is no banning. As for messing up your file, everything I saw was able to be reversed. I had a ton of Dragon Hearts and ammo after playing with a random online. After I left and went into my own offline game, my ammo and hearts reset when I used a stone. Nothing should be permanent.

[Xr-1]

Make sure to back up your saves. If you are with a cheater and pick up uber amounts of scrap or whatever you cant undo that.

[Mosey]

Originally posted by Zer0:

After I left and went into my own offline game, my ammo and hearts reset when I used a stone. Nothing should be permanent.

This isn't true.

I joined a game and instantly received 150,000,000 scrap and there is no way I can remove it. On another save, I joined someone and received 540 trait points which instantly maxed my character. Could not revert that either, had to delete the save.

So yeah, this is a problem and it can indeed ruin your character. Unless you're into instant max level, I guess, in which case you're probably already a cheater.

As for a ban hammer, I'm assuming that these saves are locally saved so I wouldn't expect anything negative to happen to you for having an obviously cracked save file. There's clearly no cheat protection whatsoever given that I've already joined probably 4 or 5 games that were obviously hacking.

[kresa]

This is why there should be an always online option for people who know they will be playing with strangers and not just solo or with friends.
Let the cheaters do whatever they want in the offline / modded version but they need to be vac banned the moment they enter the online only option.

[DEVILDICE]

Originally posted by Mosey:

Originally posted by Zer0:

After I left and went into my own offline game, my ammo and hearts reset when I used a stone. Nothing should be permanent.

This isn't true.

I joined a game and instantly received 150,000,000 scrap and there is no way I can remove it. On another save, I joined someone and received 540 trait points which instantly maxed my character. Could not revert that either, had to delete the save.

So yeah, this is a problem and it can indeed ruin your character. Unless you're into instant max level, I guess, in which case you're probably already a cheater.

As for a ban hammer, I'm assuming that these saves are locally saved so I wouldn't expect anything negative to happen to you for having an obviously cracked save file. There's clearly no cheat protection whatsoever given that I've already joined probably 4 or 5 games that were obviously hacking.

Well, to be fair, it is possible to undo and not delete your save. Incase resting didn't fix my issues, I looked up the cheat table myself. You can actually use the cheats to reverse the cheats. If it happens again, just download the cheat and use it to lower your scrap and traits. Nothing is permanent, you don't have to lose your progress.

[Mosey]

Originally posted by Zer0:

Originally posted by Mosey:

This isn't true.

I joined a game and instantly received 150,000,000 scrap and there is no way I can remove it. On another save, I joined someone and received 540 trait points which instantly maxed my character. Could not revert that either, had to delete the save.

So yeah, this is a problem and it can indeed ruin your character. Unless you're into instant max level, I guess, in which case you're probably already a cheater.

As for a ban hammer, I'm assuming that these saves are locally saved so I wouldn't expect anything negative to happen to you for having an obviously cracked save file. There's clearly no cheat protection whatsoever given that I've already joined probably 4 or 5 games that were obviously hacking.

Well, to be fair, it is possible to undo and not delete your save. Incase resting didn't fix my issues, I looked up the cheat table myself. You can actually use the cheats to reverse the cheats. If it happens again, just download the cheat and use it to lower your scrap and traits. Nothing is permanent, you don't have to lose your progress.

haha, no. I'm not doing that. Downloading cheats to undo cheats is like curing cancer with more cancer. I get that you're trying to 'help', but this suggestion isn't something I'm willing to do nor should I need to hack the game to undo hacks someone else applied to my save file.

In fact, it's absurd that strangers are able to make effective edits to my save file without my permission in the first place.

This is the #1 emerging issue with this game.

The developers should probably take a look since it's only a matter of time until multiplayer becomes a plague of hackers. It won't be long until every game you join grants infinite levels, ammo, etc. or, even worse, they figure out how to simply corrupt your save file completely.

[DEVILDICE]

Originally posted by Mosey:

Originally posted by Zer0:

Well, to be fair, it is possible to undo and not delete your save. Incase resting didn't fix my issues, I looked up the cheat table myself. You can actually use the cheats to reverse the cheats. If it happens again, just download the cheat and use it to lower your scrap and traits. Nothing is permanent, you don't have to lose your progress.

haha, no. I'm not doing that. Downloading cheats to undo cheats is like curing cancer with more cancer. I get that you're trying to 'help', but this suggestion isn't something I'm willing to do nor should I need to hack the game to undo hacks someone else applied to my save file.

In fact, it's absurd that strangers are able to make effective edits to my save file without my permission in the first place.

This is the #1 emerging issue with this game.

The developers should probably take a look since it's only a matter of time until multiplayer becomes a plague of hackers. It won't be long until every game you join grants infinite levels, ammo, etc. or, even worse, they figure out how to simply corrupt your save file completely.

Alright, do you then. Just trying to save people hours of lost progress. Its clearly an issue and I'm just giving a temporary solution. Its as easy as downloading a file and changing a number. No one has to do it.

[Mosey]

Originally posted by Zer0:

Alright, do you then. Just trying to save people hours of lost progress. Its clearly an issue and I'm just giving a temporary solution. Its as easy as downloading a file and changing a number. No one has to do it.

That's the problem in a nutshell for how simple it is for people to hack the game. The fact that it's just as easy to hack it back to what it was isn't a selling point, it's a reason to refund the game.

I don't mind people hacking single player games, or even games like No Man's Sky, but in games like this it's cancer.

Not to say I don't appreciate the attempt at help, don't get me wrong, but I'm very much against using cheats to combat the fact that my save file is open to every random yahoo I join. That's just incredibly terrible design, full stop.

[ParadoxArcher]

honestly, since there is no pvp or real competition, i dont see why cheating will be banned, as it is mostly for one's own enjoyment (if they need to cheat to feel good about themselves then let it be). If you find a cheater and it's not enjoyable to play with them, then I guess the best answer is just leave, because there is absolutely no reason to ban cheaters, unless if they are ruining the game for you

[Mosey]

Originally posted by ParadoxArcher:

honestly, since there is no pvp or real competition, i dont see why cheating will be banned, as it is mostly for one's own enjoyment (if they need to cheat to feel good about themselves then let it be). If you find a cheater and it's not enjoyable to play with them, then I guess the best answer is just leave, because there is absolutely no reason to ban cheaters, unless if they are ruining the game for you

Say, like making edits to your save file without your permission? I guess being granted infinite money and infinite trait points doesn't break people's games, even when there's nothing in game that can fix those issues outside of deleting your save file and starting over from scratch?

You may not even know they have those hacks applied to their game until you've already loaded in, at which point it's too late. There were no warning signs when I joined into the game that ruined my save file, for sure. Outside of infinite money and trait points, they didn't have any obvious hacks.

[Mosey]

Originally posted by One Punch Man:

Originally posted by Mosey:

Maybe because the hackers that change their save files can overwrite your save file data? I guess having your save file corrupted by simply joining a game isn't game breaking if you're already cheating. My guess is that One Punch Man here is one such player.

are u nuts? look at my playtime, im still at the endboss on normal xD
Hacker cant corrupt your gamefiles, its just not possible and now get lost and shut up

You literally don't know what you're talking about. When I say corrupt my save file I mean they add infinite Xp and cash and there is no way to reverse it without cheating myself. That instantly ruins that save file in my view.

And I know it's possible because I've already had it happen. Twice.

Note the amount of cash I have in this screen shot.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1843376760

Note my trait level.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1843376566

I got everything I have legit, then I join some random game and get granted infinite stuff? That's irritating since if I want to play this save again I'll feel like I didn't get where I am legitimately. In fact, if I ever buy anything again or use a trait point, I didn't get there legitimately.

[Miti]

dude, u have 150 million credits. U cant do ♥♥♥♥ without mats. also 560 is not max.