Who the hell thought Nightmare was even a FUN boss?

[Vahnkiljoy]

It was pure UTTER GARBAGE, REQUIRING stacks to do damage is the purest form of anything BUT fun, I struggled through that garbage fight before it was 'fixed' with the ending and never ONCE had any kind of fun, hell the fight is just so garbage I never knew he HAD a weakpoint because I was only ever getting 'one' stack not realizing because the game fails in really telling the player you GET stacks from the kills.

[Alistair]

Also from what i can tell there is no point to ever complete it more than once, any time i join a game and they are on the boss i leave. It's long, tedious and boring and the rewards (second time plus) suck. seriously the worst boss in the game, especially now they have doubles his health

[Alistair]

Sorry to double post but i just found out you can stack more than 10 (i thought 10 was the limit) so does anyone know what the limit is? can you stack 50 and destroy him in like 1 shot?

[Archon]

25 is the limit, then you use something like the spitfire to open the weak spot and then blast him with a high power weapon like the Crossbows+mods like the fire bullets, swarm etc.

[bobeagle77]

I have to agree this fights is not fun at all. Just the opposite and frustrating. Specially in single player. Why make normal final boss a nightmare to play. Let people who want to play a hard game select hard mode or higher difficulties.

[Jeffhey]

Stupid boss, and to make it worst it has this stupid long , un skippeable cinematic .

Great innovative idea for a boss , clap clap guys!

[WhiteDynamite]

Idk what devs are thinking, but they should rework the final boss asap.

[Tariff Mike Hawk]

i thought it was challenging, like the second phase didn't have any ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ one-shot moves, I thought they purposefully made him have slow and telegraphed attacks so you can try to figure out the fight over time

and once you figured out the mechanics, it was pretty easy

[entropy5]

i liked it

[JackieTheDemon]

It's literally a walk in the park once you figure out the mechanics.

>Kill first phase.
>Stay on the other end of the arena so you can just literally walk back and forth to easily dodge fireballs.
>drink bloodwort when inside the nightmare zone, kill enemies to replenish health and earn stacks.
>exit and lay waste to him with some hard-hitting weapons/mods til his weak point opens
> Shoot that ♥♥♥♥
>rinse and repeat

No need for a struggle, he shouldn't even be hurting you.

[Fate (-{SoH}-)]

The biggest insult to me was his weapon is useless,
The ability only stretchs out fights and it's damage buff is nothing,
The guns damage is trash and too short ranged.

For beating the end boss i was expecting a more epic weapon what i got was something so weak that i prefer most secondarys over it (not including the lengthy reload).

It's sad when the end boss weapon is outdone by the bouncing crossbow which is a joke weapon.

[pain]

This boss fight is easy, i only ever get 10 stacks and kill nightmare in 2-3 portal runs. takes me an average of like 5-10 minutes (if that) to beat the boss.

I use devastator cross bow and SMG with swarm mod.

shoot him one with the crossbow to get 5 mod stacks, then use the swarm/smg to do very high DPS. when he breaks his shield after maybe 1 clip+swarm, cast swarm again use devastator's mod to shoot him in the head. for me it knocks down around 1/10th of his health bar a hit plus swarm is eating it away just as fast. :)

[Grunt]

the idea of of it is good it just goes on to long doing the same thing over and over again

[Gibbonici]

Originally posted by Deadweight:

It's literally a walk in the park once you figure out the mechanics.

>Kill first phase.
>Stay on the other end of the arena so you can just literally walk back and forth to easily dodge fireballs.
>drink bloodwort when inside the nightmare zone, kill enemies to replenish health and earn stacks.
>exit and lay waste to him with some hard-hitting weapons/mods til his weak point opens
> Shoot that ♥♥♥♥
>rinse and repeat

No need for a struggle, he shouldn't even be hurting you.

No matter how many enemies I kill in the dark zone, his weak spot never opens when I come out. He animates like it should but no weak spot appears. It doesn't matter what weapons and mods I use either.

I just reroll my world when I get to him now. The rest of the game is fun as hell, this fight just isn't.

[SpeedyParticles]

Honestly, whether you find the fight easy or hard, one thing's for sure: this "finale" is terribly designed and 100% BORING. What a downer... I mean, the whole ending "arc" felt super "rushed" too. (I figured there would at least be a final "zone," maybe a few WARD 17 rooms filled with scary plant-crap, you know, to ACTUALLY build-up the "final confrontation" with the Root... but no, just... eh, whatever. The rest of the game was immersive and neat - this felt "tacked on."

They should really focus the next update on fully revamping the design of this... "boss" to be more in the vein of the rest of the game's bosses. (still keeping it harder, of course) I mean, you don't even have to dodge or make quick skill-shots or anything. The whole fight just feels... slow and, well... "lonely" I guess would be the word? I don't know, it was weird.

Of course the artistic design is kind of neat, I guess... (again, Dreamer/Nightmare doesn't really fit the rest of the game artistically either, which was another reason this "boss" was lame - looked more like it belonged in a silly JRPG.) The rest of the game looked amazing... but this? Kind of cringe... It was like "Godchild" from Mass Effect 3 doing a cliche' Final Fantasy Ultimica transformation inside a BLAND "digital-looking" arena? Eww wtf? Why?

Whatever. Remnant is still a solid 9/10 for me. Would recommend.

[JackieTheDemon]

Originally posted by Gibbonici:

Originally posted by Deadweight:

It's literally a walk in the park once you figure out the mechanics.

>Kill first phase.
>Stay on the other end of the arena so you can just literally walk back and forth to easily dodge fireballs.
>drink bloodwort when inside the nightmare zone, kill enemies to replenish health and earn stacks.
>exit and lay waste to him with some hard-hitting weapons/mods til his weak point opens
> Shoot that ♥♥♥♥
>rinse and repeat

No need for a struggle, he shouldn't even be hurting you.

No matter how many enemies I kill in the dark zone, his weak spot never opens when I come out. He animates like it should but no weak spot appears. It doesn't matter what weapons and mods I use either.

I just reroll my world when I get to him now. The rest of the game is fun as hell, this fight just isn't.

Use the Hive Cannon, something strong with DOT effects