Riven vs. Other melee weapons

[Rodi]

Isn't Riven way too good compared to other melee weapons due to it's life steal? I use other melee weapons just for fun, because if I am to take melee seriously, Riven outclasses any other melee weapon.
Once you have maxed all melee traits the health regen is way too good and it even stacks with the ring Leech Ember for huge life regen... I just think no other melee weapon can compete with that.

[Zeypher]

Petrified maul kills it. If you play proper melee then the hammers are the way to go.

[ParadoxArcher]

i believe so too, i can just walk up to bosses and its near impossible to kill me due to it's immense hp regen. The only times i die are when when my mantle of thorns dies off or if they just burst down 175hp (only in nightmare mode).

I do swich to other weapons however, the voice of the tempest for anything i want to keep a distance from, such as the butcher. And I use the guardian axe as a weapon for procing the undying abilityon ruin

[!?!]

It does no damage.
If actually killing the thing you're hitting is on your priority list, it's pretty bad.

[Rodi]

Originally posted by chris:

It does no damage.
If actually killing the thing you're hitting is on your priority list, it's pretty bad.

One attack from a hammer is enough time to attack twice with the scythe, not ot mention that the charged attack from the scythe is faster and hits what? three times?. Riven is not lacking in dps and you get huge ammounts of health while doing it.

[Rodi]

Originally posted by zeypherIN:

Petrified maul kills it. If you play proper melee then the hammers are the way to go.

Both hammers are very good, but Riven outclasses them just by spamming attacks. It gets the same results with less effort and more safety with huge regen.

[!?!]

Originally posted by RodrigoRJ:

Originally posted by chris:

It does no damage.
If actually killing the thing you're hitting is on your priority list, it's pretty bad.

One attack from a hammer is enough time to attack twice with the scythe, not ot mention that the charged attack from the scythe is faster and hits what? three times?. Riven is not lacking in dps and you get huge ammounts of health while doing it.

Compared to the spears or the firesword, it does no damage.

[Rodi]

Originally posted by chris:

Originally posted by RodrigoRJ:

One attack from a hammer is enough time to attack twice with the scythe, not ot mention that the charged attack from the scythe is faster and hits what? three times?. Riven is not lacking in dps and you get huge ammounts of health while doing it.

Compared to the spears or the firesword, it does no damage.

I am not saying Riven has the best dps, but when you say it does no damage, it's just false. It kills anything and keeps you alive in the process with huge regen. One mistake with a spear or sword (not to mention spear sucks when you have to fight many enemies at once) and there goes your health. One mistake with Riven and... no problem I will regen my health super fast anyway.

[!?!]

Originally posted by RodrigoRJ:

I am not saying Riven has the best dps, but when you say it does no damage, it's just false. It kills anything and keeps you alive in the process with huge regen. One mistake with a spear or sword (not to mention spear sucks when you have to fight many enemies at once) and there goes your health. One mistake with Riven and... no problem I will regen my health super fast anyway.

Prolonging melee by doing low damage is a mistake in itself because other enemies exist and you don't get to be all cutesy and heal your mistakes away in nightmare.

Also the lightning spear is probably the best crowd control weapon due to the explosions.

[Rodi]

Originally posted by chris:

Originally posted by RodrigoRJ:

I am not saying Riven has the best dps, but when you say it does no damage, it's just false. It kills anything and keeps you alive in the process with huge regen. One mistake with a spear or sword (not to mention spear sucks when you have to fight many enemies at once) and there goes your health. One mistake with Riven and... no problem I will regen my health super fast anyway.

Prolonging melee by doing low damage is a mistake in itself because other enemies exist and you don't get to be all cutesy and heal your mistakes away in nightmare.

Also the lightning spear is probably the best crowd control weapon due to the explosions.

Well, I don't play on Nightmare, so I guess the regen is not that important there, considering the amount of damage one hit should take from your health.

[Sweets]

Going with riven + other life steal items you can go long periods without using any healing items at all

[shiby]

Originally posted by RodrigoRJ:

Isn't Riven way too good compared to other melee weapons due to it's life steal? I use other melee weapons just for fun, because if I am to take melee seriously, Riven outclasses any other melee weapon.
Once you have maxed all melee traits the health regen is way too good and it even stacks with the ring Leech Ember for huge life regen... I just think no other melee weapon can compete with that.

Its bad and no fun to play, I rarely use it. I use the Skeleton Maul thingy or flame sword

[Mosey]

If you don't need HP regen in melee range, I guess you could use something else. But HP regen is super good and lets you save your hearts for other things, so I guess it's up to you.

It's almost definitely the best 'tanking' melee weapon, since that plus mantle makes you virtually unkillable.

It's damage certainly isn't 'low' and it doesn't meaningfully delay killing enough to call it 'bad'.

Cleared all the content on 'hard' mode with it without much issue, but can't say how viable it is in nightmare. Frankly, I suspect melee just isn't worth it in nightmare regardless of what you use.

[Onhez]

Originally posted by Mosey:

Frankly, I suspect melee just isn't worth it in nightmare regardless of what you use.

Yeah, melee is nearly useless in nightmare. Even a dedicated tank / melee build cant survive the insane amount of dmg that mobs do.