Best DPS build

[Iris]

What is the best armor/weapon combo for nightmare difficulty DPS? currently using radiant armor with Beam Rifle and Swarm mod but is there a better combination?

[Missa La Hache]

Well, this is what I use for DPS nightmare :
- Bandit armor (35% refund a bullet).
- Beam rifle with wildfire mod.
- Spitfire (only used in banished world).
- Storm amulet (20% element damage).
- Devouring loop (5% chances on crit to do 300%dmg).
- Hunter's band (25% more weakspot damage if 15m from target).

(I assume to all character traits are maxed out).

With this set, I recommend to have at least 1 ammo box.

The thing here is to use the accuracy and long range of the beam rifle (20m) to get the hunetr's band working. Crack open nightmare chest with two or three wildfire uses and let the beam rifle melt down its weakspot.

[RTBear]

The last patch fixed crossbow aiming so the bandit set + devestator is REALLY good (due to the 5-bolt synergy with the bandit set). If you've upgraded attack speed trait you can consistently put out damage. In nightmare the best defense is a good offence. The only downside is you're a glass cannon, even with resist rings. Gunslinger's charm amulet has great synergy, particularly with reload speed in case the bandit set doesn't proc. I would bet the dps output is better than radiant since the devouring loop nerf.

Alternatively Cultist set with particle accelerator and max spirit trait so you can consistently charge the mod power and use it to CC mobs. A fully leveled black hole can crit for 4k+ and wipe mobs. Not a great weapon for enemies with no weakspots though.

[ProxyJames]

Escrito originalmente por Frosin:

Other then the broken bandit build...

I'm using

Long: AR (Turret / Seed Caller depend on situation)
Hand: Any thing that can carry a slot (Hunter Mark / SoS)
Cultist Set / Radiant Set / Bandit Set / Mix Set using set bonus that exist even on 1 piece...e.g. Akari
World Breaker / Guardian Axe
Neck: Soul Anchor
Ring 1 : Stone of Balance
Ring 2 : (Pretty flexible really) Black Sun / Wolf / Hunter's band / Braided etc

Then again I only play on NM nowaday, other build can be more useful in lower difficulty (e,g Stalker 1 shot build), NM does change things quite a fair bit.

this build does so SO little damage at most you are doing 7.50% more damage for 2 seconds, one peace of ANY set that gives flat bonuses (hunters, scrappers, slayers) and your doing way more damage alot more often and right off from the bat, if you want damage go hunters (because 25% damage if something is 15 meters away is great) or stalkers (because 35% damage after reload with dummy thicc crossbows and sniper rifles is dumb amounts of damage) also factoring in weak point / crit damage that comes from using the weapons that work well with it, also because these weapons do SO MUCH damage in one hit your mods charge up stupid fast
if you do the math the stalker set lets you do more damage in one shot that you can expending all the ammo in most your guns and faster as well! the radiant set is only good if you can get 100% crit chance by leveling super hard, not sure the amount needed to get the 100% chance but it will be too high and even THEN the stalker will deal more damage because its only 25% extra crit damage at 10 stacks when stalkers gives you 35% to everything

[Dazza]

Escrito originalmente por RTBear:

The last patch fixed crossbow aiming so the bandit set + devestator is REALLY good (due to the 5-bolt synergy with the bandit set). If you've upgraded attack speed trait you can consistently put out damage. In nightmare the best defense is a good offence. The only downside is you're a glass cannon, even with resist rings. Gunslinger's charm amulet has great synergy, particularly with reload speed in case the bandit set doesn't proc. I would bet the dps output is better than radiant since the devouring loop nerf.

Alternatively Cultist set with particle accelerator and max spirit trait so you can consistently charge the mod power and use it to CC mobs. A fully leveled black hole can crit for 4k+ and wipe mobs. Not a great weapon for enemies with no weakspots though.

Don't get used to a unintended mechanic that is being removed though.

[RTBear]

Escrito originalmente por Dazza:

Don't get used to a unintended mechanic that is being removed though.

If it's unintended, it's been unintended since the beginning of the game. If they're removing it, then people will move on to the next best thing until everything is just "fine". Which is just fine, I guess. Good thing I'm transitioning to melee :)

[Dazza]

Yes it is unintended and is being removed. It is broken after all so shouldn't be any surprise to anyone.

[Pottross]

Escrito originalmente por RTBear:

Good thing I'm transitioning to melee :)

Same until that gets the nerf hammer. I literally face tanked Undying King yesterday, while ignoring all of his adds...

[kilexe]

Crossbow has always been my go to, with assassin gear, rings that add crit on top of that. Everything is a 1 shot kill on normal minus elites unless you're hitting weak spots then 2 to 3 shots, and hard mode about a little more than half the time is a one shot. before the update my dps was getting about 10k-17k damage every few shots till they nerfed that. Normal crit damage is about 1200~, weak spot damage up to 7k.

[ItsEllzworth]

-Slayer Armor
-Curse of the Jungle God (Easy trash/elite kills and added DPS for some bosses. Great and lazy way to farm EXP and Scraps on maps).
-Crossbow: Swarm (Very high damage output for elites and especially bosses).
-Storm Amulet (Increases elemental damage of both Tentacles and Swarm).
-Devouring Loop
-Hunter's Band

If I want to go Bob Ross crazy - I'll switch to Radiant Armor and watch Swarm just melt everything.

[Frosin]

Escrito originalmente por ProxyJames:

Escrito originalmente por Frosin:

Other then the broken bandit build...

I'm using

Long: AR (Turret / Seed Caller depend on situation)
Hand: Any thing that can carry a slot (Hunter Mark / SoS)
Cultist Set / Radiant Set / Bandit Set / Mix Set using set bonus that exist even on 1 piece...e.g. Akari
World Breaker / Guardian Axe
Neck: Soul Anchor
Ring 1 : Stone of Balance
Ring 2 : (Pretty flexible really) Black Sun / Wolf / Hunter's band / Braided etc

Then again I only play on NM nowaday, other build can be more useful in lower difficulty (e,g Stalker 1 shot build), NM does change things quite a fair bit.

this build does so SO little damage at most you are doing 7.50% more damage for 2 seconds, one peace of ANY set that gives flat bonuses (hunters, scrappers, slayers) and your doing way more damage alot more often and right off from the bat, if you want damage go hunters (because 25% damage if something is 15 meters away is great) or stalkers (because 35% damage after reload with dummy thicc crossbows and sniper rifles is dumb amounts of damage) also factoring in weak point / crit damage that comes from using the weapons that work well with it, also because these weapons do SO MUCH damage in one hit your mods charge up stupid fast
if you do the math the stalker set lets you do more damage in one shot that you can expending all the ammo in most your guns and faster as well! the radiant set is only good if you can get 100% crit chance by leveling super hard, not sure the amount needed to get the 100% chance but it will be too high and even THEN the stalker will deal more damage because its only 25% extra crit damage at 10 stacks when stalkers gives you 35% to everything

Its a summoner build, which has some of the highest sustained DPS number...it is never meant for just gun only damage. Which key is generate enough mod power (especially with max trait rank of mine, AR is totally a different beast as well) to get all your summon out (if even needed) while maintaining enough firepower of your own to kill random stuff (which despite not a max build for gun only damage, it is more than enough to kill fast in NM (unless your aim suck that much).

Armor is free to mess around with, there really isnt much wrong one can do. Summoner built is just meant to trade max possible dmg of gun for the freedom to not having to worry about the max dmg every single hit you can do in the perfect condition. Whatever is up there is more than enough to generate enough mod power to get it up, running at max power and sustain it without any pressure.

I also just did a NM speed run from start to end without any issue at around 2+ hours (I just wanted to rush to act 4 for an item (from ravager)...last weapon I needed, could be way faster if I dont waste time with some of the optional dungeon) with the build, it work way better if you try it instead of trying to squeeze all the damage from a single bullet. (It get better as you switch around summon or know how to control their AI a little).

Summoner build also getting a buff based on the chat with tragic too, so I expect the build to change a little when the buff is out, with even more freedom on the selection (I picked AR for the insane mod power generation as well as one of the best sustained dps weapon in all situation)

Also I dont understand that "level super hard" part as well, I pretty much gotten all the DPS trait within 2 days of playing, it really doesn't take that much time unless you only play normal and get yourself stuck on random boss for a long time.

[Genoscythe]

Escrito originalmente por Deadweight:

Radiant Set

Ruin
SMG (hunter's mark)
Amulet: Leto's Amulet
Ring: Braided Thorns
Ring: Devouring Loop OR Jewel of the Black Sun

Drop ruin for an assault rifle with swarm. Swarm also gets crit bonuses from all buffs and keeps your radiant set buff up to max all the time.

[-69 Social Credits]

The Best DPS (not a viable option but still the best in my opinion) is:

Vengeance Idol (+50% damage when under 25% hp)
Braided Thorns, Jewel of Black Sun / Gravity Stone / Stone of Balance

Beam Rifle (I don't have the AR so I can't test) with anything you like
SMG / Spitfire (I like Spitfire but then equip hunters mark on Beam Rifle)
Any Melee weapon because I don't use them that often

Radiant Set

This basically gives you a 70% damage buff and a 62.5% critical hit chance WITHOUT Traits
With traits it becomes a 95% damage buff (minds Eye) and an 82.5% crit chance (Executioner) and an extra 50% crit damage (kingslayer)

not counting weakspots since the enraging bosses don't have them

So with the Beam Rifle +20 base damage of 48 we get
93.6 Damage per shot with an 82.5% chance to deal 234 damage instead
With 5 rounds per second we have 1170 damage per second for 6 seconds
So in one mag you can deal more than 6000 damage

["that guy"]

ok, i know this isnt the highest DPS build in the game, but has anyone ever tried this build?

Blackrose necklace
labyrinth helm
cultist chest
labyrinth legs
devouring loop
Ring of supremacy
plasma accelerator
sidearm with hunters mark

as long as you are good at dodging and staying full hp, it does alot of damage, only issue is you are squishy.. but with the vortex i have been able to crit with the devouring loop bonus for 20k+ damage. whats the highest you have hit for? NOT COUNTING LAST BOSS!

[Blaukraut™]

Escrito originalmente por Dungeon Devil:

You actually sound insane.

Leto's amulet is pretty much required for heavy builds, it removes the fat roll and heavy stamina usage.

Gunslingers just increases fire rate by 10%, that's not significant. I'd rather be able to dodge effectively than shoot 10% faster.

Maybe I put Hunter's mark on my SMG because I use the SMG? The Radiant set is built around fast, consecutive hits.

so thers no use for 10% firerate when the armor set is built around fast consecutive crits?

[FЯidgeboy]

Best DPS is daredevil charm. single shot would be crossbow, hunting pistol, song of swords, DD charm, emp loop, stone of balance or that new ring that stacks damage if you do 60% of magazines base dmg on reload.

or typewriter/assault rifle, hot shot/song of swords, DD charm, stone of balance, that same 60% base dmg reload ring. melt everything